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WaitingForJesus

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2020 08:41 AM

Isaiah 65;9-17, 24

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And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me. But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit. And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes. For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

Amen

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2020 10:11 AM

He who separates himself seeks his own desire. He quarrels against all sound wisdom.





Proverbs 18:1,2



A fool does not delight in understanding, But only in revealing his own mind.

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2020 10:13 AM

Christians should discuss scripture .

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ADAM7777

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Posted : 31 Dec, 2020 02:38 AM

1 Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.



2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.



Anyone who has ability to read, or just to understand when the words are told here, know there is nothing much left to discuss, when they bring this same doctrine in their heart, AND, if they do not bring that doctrine according to Godliness, it is because they are:



1 Timothy 6:3 IF ANY MAN TEACH OTHERWISE, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

4 He is PROUD, KNOWING NOTHING, BUT DOTING ABOUT QUESTIONS AND STRIFES OF WORDS, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

5 PERVERSE DISPUTINGS OF MEN OF CORRUPT MINDS, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 1 Jan, 2021 11:40 AM

Perfectionism heresy is a fable

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Teddyhug^

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Posted : 2 Jan, 2021 10:06 PM

Your right David that continual sinning 'Perfectionism heresy' is a fable in your own mind bubba!

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Teddyhug^

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Posted : 2 Jan, 2021 10:17 PM

'Therefore thus saith the Master YHWH, Behold, my servants shall eat' (that do righteously - not sinning!) , 'but ye shall be hungry:' (you who continue to sin!) 'behold, my servants shall drink,' (that do righteously - not sinning!) 'but ye shall be thirsty:' (you who continue to sin!) 'behold, my servants shall rejoice,' (that do righteously - not sinning!) 'but ye shall be ashamed:' (you who continue to sin!) 'Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart,' (that do righteously - not sinning!) 'but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.' (you who CONTINUE to sin!)

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 3 Jan, 2021 02:20 PM

Adam and Flat Teddy can’t deny the sinful human nature we all possess even after salvation. So Adam and Flat Teddy instead raise false accusations against those who don’t fall for their heretical sinless perfectionism.

Adam and Flat Teddy falsely accuse those who’ve repented and work hard to live holy lives of choosing rather to sin.

But no one who truly loves God and wants to obey him, continues to choose to sin in the careless disregard of an unbeliever.

Holy born again believers earnestly want to obey God but find themselves falling short. Nothing could be more frustrating to the believer than this as Paul noted in Romans 7.

The difference between Flat Teddy Adam and a True Believer is that a true believer doesn’t lower the standard of God’s righteousness or his holy laws.

A heretical sinless perfectionism advocate, like Flat Teddy Adam, must lower the level of God holiness. Flat Teddy Adam must lower the level of God’s holiness to make themselves appear sinless and perfect.

Hence the difference between a sinless perfectionism heretic and a true believer.

A true believer recognizes the true standard of God’s holiness and righteousness and doesn’t try lower God’s exceedingly high standard.

The ONLY ONE WHO IS TRULY SINLESS AND PERFECT, IS JESUS HIMSELF

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