Adam and hugs,In the parable of the prodigal son, which of the two sons are the two of you.
Luke 15, the entire chapter.
1Now all the tax collectors and sinners were gathering around to listen to Jesus. 2So the Pharisees and scribes began to grumble: “This man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
3Then Jesus told them this parable: 4“What man among you, if he has a hundred sheep and loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the pasture and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? 5And when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders, 6comes home, and calls together his friends and neighbors to tell them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my lost sheep!’ 7In the same way, I tell you that there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous ones who do not need to repent.
The Parable of the Lost Coin
8Or what woman who has ten silver coinsa and loses one of them does not light a lamp, sweep her house, and search carefully until she finds it? 9And when she finds it, she calls together her friends and neighbors to say, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my lost coin.’ 10In the same way, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of God’s angels over one sinner who repents.”
The Parable of the Prodigal Son
(Deuteronomy 21:18–21)
11Then Jesus said, “There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger son said to him, ‘Father, give me my share of the estate.’ So he divided his property between them.
13After a few days, the younger son got everything together and journeyed to a distant country, where he squandered his wealth in wild living.
14After he had spent all he had, a severe famine swept through that country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him into his fields to feed the pigs. 16He longed to fill his belly with the pods the pigs were eating, but no one would give him a thing.
17Finally he came to his senses and said, ‘How many of my father’s hired servants have plenty of food? But here I am, starving to death! 18I will get up and go back to my father and say to him, “Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Make me like one of your hired servants.” ’
20So he got up and went to his father. But while he was still in the distance, his father saw him and was filled with compassion. He ran to his son, embraced him, and kissed him.
21The son declared, ‘Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.b’
22But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let us feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again! He was lost and is found!’ So they began to celebrate.
25Meanwhile the older son was in the field, and as he approached the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked what was going on.
27‘Your brother has returned,’ he said, ‘and your father has killed the fattened calf, because he has him back safe and sound.’
28The older son became angry and refused to go in. So his father came out and pleaded with him.
29But he answered his father, ‘Look, all these years I have served you and never disobeyed a commandment of yours. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours returns from squandering your wealth with prostitutes, you kill the fattened calf for him!’
31‘Son, you are always with me,’ the father said, ‘and all that is mine is yours. 32But it was fitting to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ ”
Quiz posts in another thread - Hebrews 6 verses 4- 6
'4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age— 6 and then have fallen away—to be restored to repentance, because they themselves are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting Him to open shame.'
Then Quiz posts this - 'If, if, if a person is able to go from being saved, to being not saved, >>>then that person could never be saved again<<<....'
So according to your logic and reasoning (not to mention your 'spirit' in your head that does not know tenses and verbs, David rightly said ;o) skills to what the Bible says, is that 'sheep' are always lost then and the same with 'coins' cannot be 'saved' again. Ooooh and the Prodigal son cannot EVER come home and be 'saved' again according to what you pasted in another thread of Hebrews 6:4-6???
Now don't you have a confused look on your face now standing in your driveway with your pants down and the neighbors driving by!? Good grief Quiz its winter! You make about as much sense as David telling children that people are hanging upside down in Australia and they don't even know it! Even SPINNING mind you, he says to them! Those children would have that same like confused look while listening to David but at least they would still have their pants up because they know better what REAL sense is because they would snicker and giggle at David thinking he was a funny ball hugging silly lad!
Are you MAYBE beginning to understand that we ARE FREE WILL CREATURES Quiz >>>BEFORE and AFTER<<< salvation and can CHOSE to be 'lost sheep' or even 'lost coins' and certainly Prodigal sons (or daughters) that are not interested in coming >>>BACK<<< home to heaven where a feast and celebration awaits them if they do??? You know there are people that love their pet sins daily and yet call themselves 'christians' while continuing to break YHWH's commandments! Right? BUT, when a brother or sister 'has returned' by RIGHTOUNESS BY FAITH and Father YHWH 'has killed the fattened calf, and He has him (or her) back safe and sound' in heaven one day...... Then all is well and W ELCOME HOME, right Quiz?
P'S' Speaking of home Quiz, you might want to invest in some suspenders for your pants for the future or just stay inside the house! OK?
Hugs, you did not answer the question, but by your response did show which son you would be, you would be the older son.
The older son was angry with his father for allowing the younger brither back into the house and having a party for his return.
The older son was an angry, self righteous, self serving, self seeking, selfish persin living by laws rules, and regulations.
The older son would not even give recognition to his brother, telling the father, This son of yours...
The older son had spent his life living by laws and rules, yet he never had a relationship with his father, he hadno idea what type of person his father was, nor did he know the character of his father.
The older son was never broken, he just was an angry,bitter, self righteous person which never knew his position with his father.
He even blamed his father for not giving him a goat to have a good time with his friends.
The whole time this son could have had anything he wanted of bis fathers, as hr was the firstborn son and heir.
Adam is the same an angry self righteous, self seeking, self serving, selfish person, as he tries to live by laws, rules, and regulations.
The second son knew who his father was what type of person his is, he was broken over his life, and depended upon his knowledge of his fathers person and character, and the relationship he had with his father, not laws, rules or regulations.
A certain man had two sons, one living by Faith and relationship, the other by laws, and rules.
Context for the undercover deceitful hypocritical "teaching" spirit
Proper beginnings and preparation for understanding are better than quiznosdavids selfish rendering of their own wishful and private interpretation of the prophecy of scripture which is forbidden, and the Spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus Revelation 19:10...
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
quiznos name writes: "Adam and hugs,In the parable of the prodigal son, which of the two sons are the two of you."
What quiznos also fails to include is those parables he has interpreted as he wishes, are already told to be the dark sayings of God, Christ speaking to this world in parables, of things kept secret from the foundation of the world. The first answer back to the self interpreter, is Jesus did not ask which of the two sons we are at all...
Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
Matthew 13:35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth IN PARABLES, I WILL UTTER THINGS WHICH HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
Back again on the path layed before us in the full and true guidance of the word, it has to be given to us to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, as without eyes to see with or ears to hear with, we cannot understands. (quiznos has assumed he understands what God has said is not of any private interpretation)
Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Last part of the introduction to reveal quiznosdavid have no Spirit to understand with, as their testimony is opposite to that of Christ.
quiznos says law or grace, and here is that grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began, now made manifest by the scriptures of the prophets ( prophecy of the scripture) according to the commandment of the everlasting God for the OBEDIENCE OF FAITH..
Romans 16:24 The GRACE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST BE WITH YOU ALL. Amen.
25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you ACCORDING TO MY GOSPEL, and the preaching OF JESUS CHRIST, ACCORDING TO THE REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY, which was KEPT SECRET SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN,
26 But now is made manifest, and BY THE SCRIPTURES OF THE PROPHETS, ACCORDING TO THE COMMANDMENT OF THE EVERLASTING GOD, made known to all nations FOR THE OBEDIENCE OF FAITH:
Now I can go onto the "idea" of quiznos, and why he has that "interpretation" and what Jesus has taught us from that chapter, and elsewhere, to interprete for us, without the PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF THE ONE NAMED QUIZNOS.
"The older son was never broken, he just was an angry,bitter, self righteous person which never knew his position with his father.
The whole time this son could have had anything he wanted of bis fathers, as hr was the firstborn son and heir."
"The second son knew who his father was what type of person his is, he was broken over his life, and depended upon his knowledge of his fathers person and character, and the relationship he had with his father, not laws, rules or regulations."
Second introduction. Jesus gives this particular parable against the pharisees, because they try to disallow Christ from warning the simple people. The Jews continued to forbid to teach the Gentiles, who do not please God ( continue in sins and selfishness) and want nobody to be saved.
Jesus spoke to the pharisees in examples they do themselves, how they do not mind when they find someone who is lost.
Jesus also reveals how joy is in Heaven over the wicked doer that repents, and Jesus of course acknowledges how the just persons need no repentance, as why would doing right be wrong to God..
1 Thessalonians 2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Luke 15:2 And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.
3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying,
4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
The father intreated the son, not rebuked and reviled him, as quiznos does out of his own heart.
The son was confused why the father is so merciful, as the son had obeyed sincerely always, ( not as the pharisees who Christ taught us touch not one of the commandments and say and do not which has reveasled quiznosdavid as a very confused spirit) ...
Matthew 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Matthew 23:4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
The father still acknowledges the son as always with him, and the son has all that is the fathers.
The father has revealed the purpose of his mercy, and spoken against the pharisees trying to prevent Jesus from warning the simple as they went on to forbid the warning to the Gentiles, as the pharisee mind such as quiznosdavid, try the same tactic to try to eliminate the righteous teaching of Christ in fair, just, judgement, but thy fail, always..
Luke 15:28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.
29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.
Again the parable reveals who does the fathers will, go into the Kingdom of God, repenting of the evil we do, is what the pharisees never do, so to answer which son are you, the ones who learn to do their fathers will, are his sons, remembering the ninety and nine just persons which need no repentance, AND remembering the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and that mystery revealed unto the obedience of faith..
Matthew 21:28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that ye might believe him.
Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
Adam, all that and yet you are so proud as to not say that you are exactly as the older son, angry, bitter and unfogiving because the younger son was given a party though he never obeyed the law, had done nothing good in order to be accepted, just trusted his father to accept him as he was.
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Flat Teddy thinks a believing the facts about the round earth means that the “little children in Australia must be standing upside down”!!
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Flat Teddy not only claims the earth is flat but anyone who disagrees must also believe people are standing upside down on the other side of a round earth!!!