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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 13 Dec, 2020 06:23 PM

Why do Christians get anxious when confronted by atheists who appeal to pain and suffering as a powerful proof against the existence of an omnipotent and omniscient “loving God”?

Unfortunately, whenever some Christians are confronted with such objections, they immediately try getting God off the hook by affixing the existence of pain and suffering to man’s freewill and disobedience, which only invites the atheist to ask why an omnipotent and omniscient loving God allowed people to disobey.

Other Christians try to affix pain and suffering to Satan, which only invites the atheist to ask why an omnipotent and omniscient loving God would allow Satan such power.

But as anyone who seriously reads the Bible will note, God isn’t ashamed or embarrassed to stay ”on the hook”. I could quote a number of verses containing the very words of God in that regard. One verse says, “ Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.”

Another verse says, Exodus 4:11 “The LORD said to him, "Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the LORD?”

Anyone reading Job can clearly understand that it was God who allowed serious pain, sadness and suffering to come upon Job.

In Genesis, God sets up a sword bearing angel to guard the the Tree of Life so no person can eat from it and live forever.

In another case, anyone can clearly read about God bringing a violent flood upon the whole earth to destroy a multitude of humankind and animals. All died except for a mere 8 people and a few other living creatures

And of course, it was God who created hell’s eternal torments.

More could be said. But why are Christians so ashamed of their God???

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LittleDavid

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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 13 Dec, 2020 06:51 PM

It’s really time we follow the experience and example of righteous Job.

Job wanted a chance to present his case in court before God and ask him some questions. Job could not understand the reasons for his intense suffering

At the end of the book of Job, God actually brings court to Job. But it is God who asks a series of penetrating questions. Questions like, Job 38:1Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said:

2“Who is this who obscures My counsel

by words without knowledge?

3Now brace yourself like a man;

I will question you, and you shall inform Me.

4Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?

Tell Me, if you have understanding.

5Who fixed its measurements? Surely you know!

Or who stretched a measuring line across it?

6On what were its foundations set,

or who laid its cornerstone,

7while the morning stars sang together

and all the sons of God shouted for joy?



Job 40 American Standard Version

Job Humbles Himself Before God

1Moreover Jehovah answered Job, and said,

2Shall he that cavilleth contend with the Almighty? He that argueth with God, let him answer it.

3Then Job answered Jehovah, and said,

4Behold, I am of small account; What shall I answer thee? I lay my hand upon my mouth.

5Once have I spoken, and I will not answer; Yea, twice, but I will proceed no further.



Job never received the answers he sought, God never told Job about the conversation between God and Satan.



Likewise all who dare to arrogantly question The Almighty will also get their day in court. But will they heed the earthly humiliation of Job or will they go on with their defamation of God’s character and ultimately suffer the fury of God’s eternal wrath in hell??

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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 13 Dec, 2020 06:58 PM

3Then Job answered Jehovah, and said,

4Behold, I am of small account; What shall I answer thee? I lay my hand upon my mouth.

5Once have I spoken, and I will not answer; Yea, twice, but I will proceed no further.



We would do well to “put our hands over our mouths” and recognize the fact we are “of small account”



God owes no one anything and owes no one answers.

God judges the “judges” who think God should bow and to them and give an answer to them

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LittleDavid

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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 13 Dec, 2020 07:02 PM

Psalms 115:3

New American Standard Bible

But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases.

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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 14 Dec, 2020 02:11 AM

Charity edifies, without it you remain in selfishness and talk..



1 Corinthians 8:1

Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.



1 Corinthians 13:2

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.



Colossians 3:14

And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness

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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 14 Dec, 2020 06:56 AM

God has incorporated into His divine plan the reality of evil and suffering in order to accomplish His will. Of course, this does not mean that God is the author of evil, but it does mean that God is above it all and can use it to accomplish a greater good. If this is true on a large-scale, why cannot it also be true on a smaller one in each of our individual lives

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LittleDavid

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Atheists Cite Pain as a Reason Avoid Belief in God But Christians Try Getting God off the Hook
Posted : 14 Dec, 2020 06:35 PM

Adam, if you’ve nothing to say, don’t say it

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