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ANYONE NOTICE THAT GRACE IS THE SPIRIT WE RECEIVE (THE HOLY SPIRIT)
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:03 AM

Noah we see the first recorded to find grace in the eyes of the Lord, we also notice the testimony about Noah a just man, and perfect in his generations.





Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.







The next notable grace is to Moses and for Israel. Moses asked the Lord to pardon Israel although they are stiffnecked, God did and also we see how they were once saved but destroyed as they did not believe in God and are examples of abusing Gods grace..



Jude 1:5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.



Exodus 33:16 For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? is it not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.



Exodus 34:9 And he said, If now I have found grace in thy sight, O Lord, let my Lord, I pray thee, go among us; for it is a stiffnecked people; and pardon our iniquity and our sin, and take us for thine inheritance.





God does give grace to glorify us, to the ones who walk uprightly. Scorners are instead scorned, grace goes to the lowly..





Psalm 84:11 For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.



Proverbs 3:34 Surely he scorneth the scorners: but he giveth grace unto the lowly.







Grace is the same as the fear of the Lord, the Messiah is the example for the entire world, who is of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord, in the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, in the Spirit of counsel and might, in the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord..



Isaiah 11:2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:





Then we understand the fear of the Lord is our beginning of knowledge, to hear the Lords instruction, to receive an ornament of grace onto our head (crown)



Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.





The Lord created all by this same Spirit of wisdom and understanding, we are to keep this Spirit of wisdom, which is life to our soul and grace to our neck..



Proverbs 3:19 The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

20 By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew.

21 My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion:

22 So shall they be life unto thy soul, and grace to thy neck.





Again we now understand, the Spirit of wisdom is the principle thing to get, to get the Spirit of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord, she gives a crown of glory and an ornament of grace onto our head, when we receive Gods sayings..



Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

8 Exalt her, and she shall promote thee: she shall bring thee to honour, when thou dost embrace her.

9 She shall give to thine head an ornament of grace: a crown of glory shall she deliver to thee.

10 Hear, O my son, and receive my sayings; and the years of thy life shall be many.





Jesus answered, if a man loves Him, (has received the Spirit of grace /love) then they keep the sayings of Christ. The ones who do not love Christ(received no grace or fear of the Lord Spirit) keep nothing of Christs sayings for grace..



John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.





Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, THE SPIRIT OF GRACE AND OF SUPPLICATIONS: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.







Now we can understand better about Christ, Christ is full of grace, as this is God, and God is love, and grace is the Spirit which is love and the Spirit of truth. We receive the fulness of His Spirit in grace..







John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



John 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.



John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.





Also now we better understand how great power is given by God to the Holy Apostles, (this is His grace) to witness the resurrection of the Lord Jesus..



Acts 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.





Because we know the WORD, (of His grace) is with POWER.



Mans enticing false word is without power (mans idea of grace) but the demonstration of the Spirit(grace) is of POWER..



Luke 4:32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.



1 Corinthians 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:





We are to believe in Christ, we are enabled to believe through grace.



The gift of grace is also the gift of righteousness, without righteousness there is no purpose of grace..





Acts 18:27 And when he was disposed to pass into Achaia, the brethren wrote, exhorting the disciples to receive him: who, when he was come, helped them much which had believed through grace:



Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)







The teaching of grace with regards to SIN, is made clear. Sin had power, nobody had power to wok against it, until they died of sinning.



Now grace reigns through righteousness unto eternal life through Christ, but how ?





Romans 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:



Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.





Sin and death had dominion over us, (the devil) now we are freed from that law of sinning and death.



If we continue to yield ourselves serving sin, we still die, still in sins and sinning.



If we now serve Christ through righteousness, we obey Christ being under His law of grace and POWER..





Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?





Now to every man who has faith in Christ, they are given this Spirit of grace to believe with, and power to walk faithfully.





Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.





Why would we need to be beseeched if through grace we need do nothing ? They receive the grace of God in vain that way as testified.



God succours us through that strength of grace, otherwise how else can we be enabled to give no offence to anyone and be without blame now...





2 Corinthians 6:1 We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive not the grace of God in vain.

2 (For he saith, I have heard thee in a time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.)

3 Giving no offence in any thing, that the ministry be not blamed:





The people who refuse to see what words are told for grace, are fallen from grace.



Circumcision is what is always highlighted. That is the law way for justification.



Gods way through the Spirit is righteousness by faith, which is the circumcision of Christ, which is faith which works by the Spirit of love (this is the grace of Christ)..



Galatians 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.





How can we be helped by grace, if men believe grace is covering their sins ?



Grace tells us to both go to the thrine of grace in time of temptation, and to find POWER to help in those times, grace is never doing nothing.



To do nothing is to FAIL OF THE GRACE OF GOD, by being DEFILED..



Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.



Hebrews 12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;





We remember the Messiah is in the Spirit of the fear of the Lord, so we have the same grace to serve God, ACCEPTABLY, with Godly FEAR, as we notice grace is multiplied through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord..



Hebrews 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:



2 Peter 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,



The last warning goes to the ones crucifying Christ through counting the blood of the covenant an unholy thing, through denial that the Spirit of grace transforms the ones who receive the Spirit of truth and the Spirit of grace to DESPISE the LAW OF CHRIST by NOT FULFILLING IT AS TESTIFIED....



Hebrews 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?



Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

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LittleDavid

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ANYONE NOTICE THAT GRACE IS THE SPIRIT WE RECEIVE (THE HOLY SPIRIT)
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:15 AM

More ignorant rantings.

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ANYONE NOTICE THAT GRACE IS THE SPIRIT WE RECEIVE (THE HOLY SPIRIT)
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:27 AM

Acts 17:23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, To The Unknown God. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.



Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:32 AM

Adam, stop trying to compare yourself to Peter and John. These men where not like you teaching heretical sinless perfectionism

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:38 AM

John and Peter:







John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.



1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.



1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.



1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.



1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.



1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.



Revelation 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:40 AM

Adam, once again you misunderstand the meaning of the word “perfect”. You think those verses teach the false doctrine of sinless perfectionism.

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:46 AM

no these teach sinless from Peter and John again:



1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;



2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:



John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 08:37 PM

None of the verses, cited by false prophet Adam 7777, teach sinless perfectionism.

Being perfect in Christ or ceasing from sin has nothing to do the sinless perfectionism heresy

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 10:01 PM

Being perfect in Christ or ceasing from sin has nothing to do the sinless perfectionism heresy



Well I see you don't know the difference in CULTISH buzz wording like "sinless perfectionism heresy" that is not found in the Bible but obviously to "ceasing from sin" by POWER from on high is certainly written in the Bible to those not blind and not living in the flesh like you David!

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Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 10:04 PM

As usual you provide no Scripture to support your cause of 'righteousness by continual sinning' now do you?

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Posted : 28 Nov, 2020 09:05 AM

Flat Teddy, since you’re near hopelessly engulfed in Flat Earth mythology, it would be safe for the casual observer to assume you’ve drunk from the sinless perfectionism kook-aid too.

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