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@Hugs & Adam: Faith, what is faith !!!
Posted : 23 Nov, 2020 03:49 PM

Hugs & Adam,

For faith to be real, does a person need to obey the Torah, and does a person need to do good works.

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@Hugs & Adam: Faith, what is faith !!!
Posted : 24 Nov, 2020 08:07 AM

Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of YHWH's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of YHWH.



4 For >>>Christ is the end of the (Torah) Law for >righteousness< to every one that believeth.<<<



5 For Moses describeth the >>>righteousness which is of the Law,<<< That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.



So Quiz, what is then the 'realness' of FAITH, that is, the whole 'package' of FAITH gospel/Torah Law/Obedience unto good works, which in summary IS Righteousness by FAITH!? Do you know now? Can you actually read it (Bible) and hear it (By His set apart Holy Spirit)?



Romans 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. (By FAITH Quiz!) For Esaias saith, Master, who hath believed our report?



17 So then >>>faith<<< cometh by hearing, and >>>hearing by the word of YHWH.<<<

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@Hugs & Adam: Faith, what is faith !!!
Posted : 24 Nov, 2020 08:22 AM

How about a marriage comparison to that of FAITH!?



For marriage to be real, does a spouse need to obey the vows (law) in marriage, and does a spouse need to do good works unto his/her mate?

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Posted : 24 Nov, 2020 02:37 PM

Hugs,

Romans 10 Paul is addressing BELIEVERS in Yahshua concerning Israel, how they reject Messiah in order to establish their own type of righteousness.

Romans 10 verses 1 - 4

1 Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is for their salvation.

2 For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge.

3 Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.

4 For Christ is the end of the law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes.



Verse 4 Messiah is the END, Completion, Fulfillment of the law.

The law is not complete without Him.



Hugs, you and Adam need to learn how to read, study, and translate the Scriptures according to their CONTEXT.





◄ Romans 10 ►

BSB + Strong's Par ▾

The Word Brings Salvation

(Isaiah 65:1–16)



1Brothers, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is for their salvation. 2For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. 3Because they were ignorant of God’s righteousness and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4For Christ is the end of the law, to bring righteousness to everyone who believes.



5For concerning the righteousness that is by the law, Moses writes: “The man who does these things will live by them.” 6But the righteousness that is by faith says: “ Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’ (that is, to bring Christ down) 7or, ‘Who will descend into the Abyss?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).



8But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.



11It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.” 12For there is no difference between Jew and Greek: The same Lord is Lord of all, and gives richly to all who call on Him, 13for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”



14How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”



16But not all of them welcomed the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?” 17Consequently, faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.



18But I ask, did they not hear? Indeed they did:



“Their voice has gone out into all the earth,



their words to the ends of the world.”



19I ask instead, did Israel not understand? First, Moses says:



“I will make you jealous by those who are not a nation;



I will make you angry by a nation without understanding.”



20And Isaiah boldly says:



“I was found by those who did not seek Me;



I revealed Myself to those who did not ask for Me.”



21But as for Israel he says:



“All day long I have held out My hands



to a disobedient and obstinate people.”

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@Hugs & Adam: Faith, what is faith !!!
Posted : 24 Nov, 2020 02:41 PM

Hugs:

You posted this;

How about a marriage comparison to that of FAITH!?

For marriage to be real, does a spouse need to obey the vows (law) in marriage, and does a spouse need to do good works unto his/her mate?



Quiznos:

Actually, for a marriage to be authenticated, the man and woman need to CONSUMMATE the relationship by having sex, until that happens the marriage is a sham.

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Posted : 25 Nov, 2020 12:54 PM

FlatTeddyThug, those are more non-answers

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