born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 23 Nov, 2020 01:47 AM
quiznos: "The Messiah was not born with sinful flesh, He did not have a SINFUL nature,as everyone that is born of a woman."
quiznos cannot reverse his words now, we notice how the Messiah was born, to be without a sinful nature as everyone born of a woman has a sinful nature.
The deceivers are deceived. To believe in the name of Christ is this:
To be...."born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God"
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
little: "Flat Teddy, Jesus came in the “likeness” not in the sameness of sinful man!"
Again this same or different person cannot undo their words. Likeness is not sameness. Something that is like what others have, is not the same.
The deceiver thinks the Holy Apostles of the Lord walked according to the flesh.
They answer the deceiver.."though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh"
2 Corinthians 10:2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
Christ clarifies for the deceived spirit, how Jesus not only does as they say, He also makes us the very same..
Here are the deceived: "That which is born of the flesh is flesh"
Here are the ones not the same as the deceived: "that which is born of the Spirit is spirit"
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Non deceived: " who walk not after the flesh"
Non deceived walk "but after the Spirit"
The deceived are in the flesh, as born of a woman are all in sinful nature.
But the non deceived are again this: "But ye are not in the flesh"
As the non deceived re now this: "but in the Spirit"
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
The deceived are this: "born after the flesh "
The non deceived are this however: "born after the Spirit"
Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Christ without sinful nature is this way: "being put to death in the flesh"
Then Christ shows this is His way:" quickened by the Spirit:"
This is the way for non deceived only:" in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ"
To be: "quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;"
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
This is what Christ did for His sheep:
"you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh"
"gospel preached also to them that are dead"
" that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
The deceived cannot see how we were judged according to men in the flesh (Christ in the flesh for this purpose) but live according to God in the Spirit..
1 Peter 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Then we understand the deceived are this: "The first man is of the earth, earthy"
The non deceived then are this: "the second man is the Lord from heaven"
The deceived have this sin nature: "As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy"
The non deceived are not born of the flesh, they are born of this: "and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly"
The deceiver is told this: "that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. "
The deceived is this: "corruptible seed"
The non deceived has become this: "Being born again incorruptible"
"the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible,"
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1 Peter 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1 Corinthians 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
The deceived is this: "EARTHLY, SENSUAL, DEVILISH"
The deceived has this:" CONFUSION and EVERY EVIL WORK"
James 3:15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is EARTHLY, SENSUAL, DEVILISH
16 For where envying and strife is, there is CONFUSION and EVERY EVIL WORK.
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 25 Nov, 2020 02:27 PM
Adam, for some reason you resist taking responsibility for you actions. Is that why you won’t answer questions about the confession of sin that Jesus taught ???
Since the gospel is VERY important, why can’t you share it on the forum??? It seems your reluctance is an indicator you don’t know how to share the gospel
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 06:44 AM
Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 09:39 AM
Adam, for once, you need to take into consideration the spiritual welfare of your most devoted and loyal disciple FlatTeddyThug and how your teaching is leading him astray.
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 10:44 AM
do you not know what those not born of the flesh do, they disturb the ones of the flesh who cant cease from it:
here is a simple pick for you littlequiz, do you pick 1 peter or 2 Peter below, for your direction and belief ? By the way, it is being very blind or stupid to have both :)
1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 12:00 PM
Once again Adam, Peter is not preaching the heresy of “sinless perfectionism” that you believe.
Peter is simply admonishing listeners to cease from sin, not to become “sinlessly perfect”, because no person can be sinlessly perfect until they die and are glorified. And your proof of not being sinlessly perfect, Adam. You sinned a huge number of times in just the last hour!!!
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 26 Nov, 2020 12:14 PM
The Lords prayer is before Gods kingdom came, as no Spirit was given, and then the kingdom of Heaven is within them, then cease froim sin is being dead to sins as in Peter..
John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 08:32 AM
Adam thinks people suddenly because sinlessly perfect “after the kingdom of heaven”.
Yet after Jesus went to heaven the apostles still say: 1 John1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Posted : 27 Nov, 2020 09:22 AM
1 John 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
next page after you begin to hear the message is to now keep the command to sin not..
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
