Author	Thread: Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
ADAM7777 View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 11:57 AM Every prophecy from the Lord of course is the same, describing the deceivers in the end. The tares, instead of wheat, produce no good fruit, no loving others in every thought and every deed. The wheat do produce only good, every thought to obedience of Christ and with the selfless Spirit of Christ are guided by God to prefer others before themselves, as this is glory to God and is why He maintains them. The devil maintains his followers, here below we are told how they are, and what they can speak. Firstly, they profess belief in Christ. Their professed belief is as a tare, to be excused by God for never producing the peaceable fruits of righteousness... Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) 10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace. The tare has zero conscience and no sense of morals. The tare professes belief in God, and their excuse to never be able to only do good is answered by Gods testimony, they are evil against every good work, and the pure have all things good already.. Titus 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. When they have a form of godliness, they break Gods ways, their excuse is nobody can keep them, they despise those that are good, they claim nobody could ever be good in God's sight, they blaspheme Gods judgement, they say grace is all you need.. 2 Timothy 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. Another favorite the tares love is their excuse why they prefer fables than Gods words. The tare cannot endure temptation themselves, and they are seen in not being able to endure sound doctrine also.. James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. 2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. The tare is yet again exposed as turning the grace of Christ into lustful sin. Gods testimony says these tares excusing lust blaspheming Christs name deny Christ through their evil. The tares excuse this time is, it is self belief to believe any requirement is told from God to do right.. Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Another of the tares fulfilment of Gods actual words, is their heresy of covetousness, along with subtle words and pretense. Their excuse this time is truth has nothing perfect in it, or as the saying of the world, nobody is perfect. 2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. The heresy is Gods words describing it, not their added lies trying to speak falsely. Gods words as all here state one way of the tares.... The tares do unrighteousness, this is the heresy described and said again, this is how they deny the Lord that bought them. They cannot cease from sin, is Gods testimony, and they always excuse, this is their only evil pattern, they are led by satan and have no self. Their excuse for not ceasing from sin, is no man is sinless. That is their covetous practice, that is their forsaking of the right way, receiving the wages of sin.. 2 Peter 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; 14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: 15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; The tares final excuse is why they do not do well yet, and why they commit sin hurting others. They say because they need time to grow. Do servants not obey their own masters fully ? If servant took time to serve their master, they are no servant at all, but a self servant. Being freed from one master, is the beginning to serve righteousness. The servant of sin never served any righteousness at all, never needed time to grow more wicked, it was from their heart too. God rewards His servants with eternal life for producing righteous fruits, the fruit is holiness as testified. The tares still being astray produce unrighteousness, they are yet unholy, as above their mind and conscience is defiled.. Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. 20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Revelation 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Should it worry you that the tares say there is no context, they say walls of scripture, say perfectionism heresy, say no man is sinless, say grace is all you need? No, because they no longer endure sound doctrine, they turn grace into lustful sin is the heresy, they despise the good, they profess belief in God but deny Him in works, and predicted they cannot cease from sin, All is completely covered so very well. Post Reply
Quiznos View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 12:08 PM Adam, once again you think of a topic, then find as many scripture that fit that topic. Then in your deceived mind you believe you have rightly understood the Scriptures in their context. Adam, i would have corrected some of the Scripture taken out from its context, but there are to many and i do not have access to the computer at this time. Adam, you need to learn to read the Scriptures in their context, as you and many others take Scripture out from the context, then think you have a right understanding. The false teachers and false prophets do the same. Post Reply
ADAM7777 View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 12:25 PM predicted, the tare complains of no context, and they do so because they cannot endure sound doctrine any more.. 2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. So your excuse why you speak and accuse without showing the correction, is because you cannot show anything at this time. The fool answers a matter before he was ready... Proverbs 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 12:26 PM He's definitely not Sinless . Material status.. Seperated. Msn is head of household , responsible for family. Hmmmm!!!! Prideful yes in his flesh. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 12:28 PM " Man" edited Justification is by Faith in Jesus. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 12:35 PM MARITAL edited No one's a fool on here except those who rebuke truth. Look at yourself. Post Reply
LittleDavid View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 01:54 PM Adam, since you claim to be sinless and perfect, why are you separated from your wife??? Was it because she couldn’t keep up with a sinless man ?? Adam, why don’t you invite your separated wife to the forum so she can testify to your sinless perfectionism??? Furthermore, why are you on a dating site when you are still married ?? Is that what perfect people do?? Please explain Post Reply
Quiznos View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 02:00 PM Posted by Adam 7744 Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 21 Nov, 2020 11:57 AM Quiznos; Of course this Scripture has been taken out from its context. The Scripture starts in the 15th verse ( Actually there are no chapter or verses in the original Greek manuscripts ) 15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn [bushes] nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits. Had Adam 7744 the slightest understanding of reading according to the context, he would not be trying to deceive the people as he has been doing. This section of the Scriptures is about False prophets, not tares. Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 22 Nov, 2020 12:14 AM David there is nothing sinful about being separated nor divorced from a wife, the sin is marrying someone else because you are still married until death! Temptation is not a sin David! The same goes with you David, if you was ever married and had wife still living but then you would claim that it would be ok because you sin each and everyday, right? You claim to have a license to sin, right? So why don’t you invite your old girlfriends David to the forum so they can testify to your willful sinfulness in secular perfectionism of self ??? Furthermore, why are you on a CHRISTIAN dating site impersonating one?? Is that what imperfect willful sinning people do?? Please explain. You see how it all works right back in your face now David? You like your own medicine David? Adam does not answer to you but to his Father in heaven! Got it now junior!!!??? Post Reply
Teddyhug^ View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 22 Nov, 2020 12:19 AM Cupcake/Moonlight. Why are you on a dating site when all you are is divorced? Your still married if your spouse is still alive. The Bible is clear on that matter! You can leave your spouse if he cheats on you, abuses you, if you do not want to go through counseling to fix the problem but you cannot remarry because you said a vow until death do you part! You know in sickness and health etc etc. but Ooooh that's right you said you also have a license to sin, just like David does although a different kind of sinfulness! Correct? Yet if you was to marry even though you are still married obviously and continue in that new sin, then your cupcakes would certainly become moldy and your moon become dim, right? Post Reply
ADAM7777 View Profile History	Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Posted : 22 Nov, 2020 03:37 AM Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? "This section of the Scriptures is about False prophets, not tares." 15 "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn [bushes] nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 "So then, you will know them by their fruits. Matthew 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; TARES ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE WICKED ONE. every tree is known by his fruit, whether tares sown by the wicked one or wheat sown by the son of man. tares are false prophets.. Luke 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. 45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. Post Reply

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