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No man can serve two masters, or live in two covenants.
Posted : 10 Nov, 2020 03:34 PM

There are those which believe that in order for GOD Almighty to save a person, that the person needs to repent of ALL of their sin, confess all of their sin, then they need to trust Messiah.

Galatians shows the superiority of the Gospel over the law, and Messiah being superior to Moses.

After this they believe GOD Almighty wants them to live according to the ten commandments, which would include the over 600 Old Covenant laws, the sacrificial laws, ceremonial laws, and any other laws in the Old Covenant.

If a person is to do this, then why did Messiah go to the cross.

These people make a big deal about keeping the Sabbath, yet they do not keep the Sacrificial law.

James says, if a person breaks one law, then they are also guilty of break all of the laws.

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No man can serve two masters, or live in two covenants.
Posted : 10 Nov, 2020 04:31 PM

I'm a believer and I asked Jesus to forgive my sins and come into my heart, I Trust Jesus only as my personal Saviour.



I'm under the New Covenant. Man couldn't. even keep the Law.

God sent Jesus to died on the Cross for All mankind's sins, to redeem man.



My sins are forgiven past, present dbd future.





Jesus is my Sabbath everyday! Not just Saturday Or a Sunday.

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Posted : 10 Nov, 2020 04:34 PM

People that think they are sinless doesn't really know or understand Scripture.



The Bible teaches Repentance. Scripture has been posted on Forum somewhere in past threads.

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No man can serve two masters, or live in two covenants.
Posted : 10 Nov, 2020 04:35 PM

Past, present "and" future

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2020 03:41 AM

God is the Shepherd who seeks out His own sheep



The new covenant is told what it is, the better way is the righteousness of the law written in the heart by the circumcision made without hands, the circumcision of Christ, in the putting off the the sins of the flesh to be forgiven our sins



Messiah went to the cross to make us dead to sins, to live unto righteousness, this is to invite Christ into the heart..



1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.



James gives testimony how all are guilty for breaking one part.



But we are complete in Christ, no part to be broken



buried with Him in baptism, risen with Him through the circumcision of our flesh in Christ..



Colossians 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.



purging our evil consciences through His blood from dead works to serve the living God



Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?



Sinless is misunderstood by the ones unturned from darkness to the light of Christ. As this was to receive forgiveness of sins and to be sanctified in Christ, this is repenting to turn to God and do works right in righteousness



hardening the heart turning from the testimony to emptiness of satans reasoning, or, fearing Gd always, to confess the sins and forsake them entirely..



Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.



Acts 26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.



Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

14 Happy is the man that feareth alway: but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.



Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.



Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

19 Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;



Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2020 08:23 AM

Moon writes - I'm under the New Covenant. Man couldn't even keep the Law. Jesus is my Sabbath everyday!’



That’s right Moon, mankind cannot keep the Torah Law by his own strength and might. We need help from above, to hear and obey His set part Holy Spirit that speaks to us daily, guides us into PERFECT righteous living by FAITH, to keep us from sinning! Hallelujah!



No place in the Bible does it teach that the Messiah came to replace an entire DAY of Creation as you imply Moon. If that is true then we only have six day weeks now, correct? Are you suggesting we should lazy 7 days of the week Moon to rest from our labors? The Bible is clear in Genesis 2:1-3 that He ONLY >>>sanctified<<< and made >>>holy<<< the seventh DAY of Creation! Correct? Are you ready Moon to repent of your sin of breaking His Law? Keeping His Torah Law is the highest form of worship of the Creator! Right?



The ‘New Covenant’ (Law) you speak of Moon is the Old Covenant (Law) written in a NEW LOCATION, which is in our ’ark’ hearts today! Its not carried around in the ark of the Covenant like in the Old Testament times but is the SAME Torah Law! Make sense?



Its just as inspired ADAM7777 says in his own words - ‘The new covenant is told what it is, the better way is the righteousness of the law written in the heart’ AMEN!

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2020 08:30 AM

Quiz posts - ‘There are those which believe that in order for GOD Almighty to save a person, that the person needs to repent of ALL of their sin, confess all of their sin, then they need to trust Messiah.



Quiz, I don’t know of ANY Christian that does not >>>first<<< trust in the Messiah that lived a perfect life of never breaking His Father’s PERFECT Torah Law, therefore NEVER sinned and so is the ONLY PERFECT sacrifice for people who >>>had<<< (past tense) sinned. Father YHWH requires perfection in keeping His Torah Law because He is PERFECT and He even provides the Spiritual POWER, His set apart Holy Spirit to guide us into ceasing from sinning always! Hallelujah! Of course Christian humans are free will creatures and can always chose to go back to sinning, by their own strength but why would they if they are truly born again – and everything now becomes new? Correct? So confession is simply a turning away from sin (which is none other than the breaking of His Torah Law), then tapping into the Father’s PERFECT POWER that can keep you from ever sinning again! Hallelujah! You see how the simple gospel works now Quiz? So what was your point in twisting what real Christian’s understand about the believing in a PERFECT Messiah, that tapped into that PERFECT POWER above from His Father, that >>>never<<< broke any Torah Law and is our PERFECT example today to follow Quiz? Are you ready to start following in the Messiah’s footsteps Quiz and keep the Torah Law?



Quiz posts - ‘Galatians shows the superiority of the Gospel over the law, and Messiah being superior to Moses.’



Umm Quiz, the letter to the Galatians shows Paul teaching his Gentile converts to keep Biblical Torah Law by FAITH! Ok? The ‘superiority of the Gospel’ message that Paul also taught was about the Messiah came to pay the penalty of those that broke the PERFECT Torah Law, which of course breaking it means death, the price the Messiah paid! The Messiah never came to do away with the Torah Law but to ‘fulfill’ it in its PERFECTION in His life by PERFECT example to us! Correct? Paul is Jewish and converted Gentiles to Torah Law that were once unclean because they had no PERFECT Law to keep before conversion. The Messiah was Jewish, kept the Torah Law PERFECTLY and came as a sacrifice to those that broke the PERFECT Torah Law, that was His purpose to die for sinners! The Messiah and Paul were Jewish Quiz. DEAL with that FACT Quiz! OK? The same gospel message was first given to Jews and then to the Gentiles converts! Its a Biblical fact Quiz!



Quiz posts - ‘After this they believe GOD Almighty wants them to live according to the ten commandments, which would include the over 600 Old Covenant laws, the sacrificial laws, ceremonial laws, and any other laws in the Old Covenant. If a person is to do this, then why did Messiah go to the cross.’



Well at least you know the PERFECT Ten Commandments (and not suggestions!) are part of the whole Torah Law, that’s comforting to know. When you study the Bible Quiz, you will find that ALL the sacrificial laws, ceremonial laws,’ and priestly duties >>>pointed forward<<< to a coming Messiah that ‘fulfilled’ those instructions PERFECTLY! So of course those things are accomplished now and we no longer make animal sacrifices that only showed the ugliness of sin anyway, which is death! The animals that were sacrificed NEVER paid the penalty of sin, which is death (not eternal torment as David teaches), because only a PERFECT human sacrifice is acceptable, substituted for sinful mankind. Correct? Again this is why the Messiah came but to offer His life on the pole/tree for sinners that broke LAW!

So what about the rest of the Torah Law ‘in the Old Covenant’ you speak of? The Law of incest for example is in the Moses Law instructions, so is it done away today? ABSURDITY, right? How about the simple Ten Commandments, placed in the Ark of the Covenant, written on permanent stone by YHWH’s own finger on Mt Sinah? Is it ok now to murder, covet and steal of mankind???



Just what is your point then, again Quiz???



Quiz posts - ‘These people make a big deal about keeping the Sabbath, yet they do not keep the Sacrificial law. James says, if a person breaks one law, then they are also guilty of break all of the laws.’



That’s right Quiz, the Bible DOES say if you break the Sabbath, then you are the same as a murderer, thief or covet-er etc etc! What does that have to do with the ‘Sacrificial law’ that was obviously ‘fulfilled’ by the Messiah’s coming and death for sinners? Can you unpack that for us Quiz? You have much to learn, don’t you Quiz? Making ‘a big deal about keeping the Sabbath’ is no different than the rest of the Ten Commandments, which are NOT suggestions, then is it Quiz? If we choose to be ANY kind of Torah Law breaker, then we are transgressors looking for sure death someday! Correct?

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2020 05:08 PM

Hugs, when you sin, and you do that quite regularly when you are here, how then do you make yourself perfect.

The just shall live by faith, not by the law.

The law cannot justify anyone nor can the law make anyone righteous.

Is a person condemned because they do not obey the law, or that they do not Faith into Messiah.

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Posted : 11 Nov, 2020 06:51 PM

For Awesome Adam the Perfect and Flat Teddy the aspiring flat earther who is almost a sinless perfectionism practitioner following in that footsteps of his teacher Awesome Adam.

When are you guys gonna stop all this sinning on the forums and start behaving like the sinless perfectionism-ists you claim to be???

What do perfectionism practitioners sin but call their sinning mistakes ??

You can’t say you’ve “stopped sinning” just because you shift the definition of sin.

Kinda like the deaf guy who says: “l gave away one ear to my mother and can’t hear outa the other—but I ain’t deaf!!

Adam and Teddy, that’s you

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