Author	Thread: Disagreements & Arguments
Phoenyx View Profile History	Disagreements & Arguments Posted : 19 Jul, 2009 08:30 PM We've had many discussions on here where people will argue their points and whatnot. I have this one family member who will constantly speak of one belief over and over again, refusing to speak of anything else concerning the Bible, and the reason why is because it's the biggest thing we disagree on, so repeating it is a way to annoy me because I'm not allowed to talk. Now, if I do speak up to say I disagree, she'll then give an argument, refuse to let me speak by continuously reiterating herself, say to drop it and claim that the only reason I talk about these things is to argue, thus saying in another way that, if I didn't want to argue, I would shut up no matter what she said. According to her, debating what the Bible truly means is against the Bible and, since she is obviously the one who obeys the Bible, arguing only starts when two people present arguments, not when one person gives an argument to another when they disagree and the other can't do the same. First off, is there a part of the Bible saying to not discuss Biblical understandings to find the answer intended by God? Two, is witnessing limited to just the matter of salvation? Not the many other truths of the Bible? Not the many other blessings? Three, what would you do in this circumstance? Would you keep quiet and hope that they see humble confidence, even if they are leading another astray? Would you ask the person politely to stop? And stop exactly what? Or would you continue to speak true, regardless of how they accuse you of wanting to do battle? How would you go about doing such in a way to reach them? And if they still continue despite your efforts, what would be your next choice? Post Reply
View Profile History	Disagreements & Arguments Posted : 20 Jul, 2009 05:40 AM dear phoe,, if you do this you do good.. remember its presentation. not confrontation.. 2 timothy 2:24-26 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will. ole cattle Post Reply
Phoenyx View Profile History	Disagreements & Arguments Posted : 20 Jul, 2009 09:19 AM Thanks and the verses offers the many ways to reach someone. I can't seem to figure out which one to use, because I've done the defending thing (she tends to make false claims on what I believe or attacks my father for what I believe--not her own-way daughter) and done the quiet thing. Guess I'll just have to be patient for when she does it again to point out what she's doing and ask her to stop. After that, I guess I will have to be quiet. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Disagreements & Arguments Posted : 20 Jul, 2009 12:06 PM Sounds like the person you're talking about has all the answers. In my opinion, the moment someone thinks they have it all...when they think they've reached the top and close their ears to anything else, that's the moment they need to step back and ask themselves if Christians should be closed-minded...or always seeking, always studying, always learning, always growing. People should read the Bible for themselves first, and then decide what they should believe by what the Bible says....but, maybe they read it wrong? Maybe they misinterpreted something? If they stopped looking....how would they know? Obviously some people get it wrong, right? Everybody can see that...so...everyone should always be looking and comparing what they find with the Bible. If it's not supported by the Bible, don't believe it. If it is? Study it to death. Make sure. And when you're sure? Share it with me:goofball:, I wanna know. So my advice would be to prove it, out of her own Bible. The only verse I can think of off-hand would be the "Seek and ye shall find" or maybe 2 peter 3:16...peter's saying there that it is possible to twist the scriptures if you don't look at the whole Bible in context. It's very easy to find one verse and twist it to say what you want. Find all the verses. See what they all say. Maybe it'll help you understand the one you're having problems with. Basically...know you Bible...2 timothy 2:15. Post Reply
LJP1944 View Profile History	Disagreements & Arguments Posted : 21 Jul, 2009 02:44 PM Saints, This reminds me of 2 Samuel 16: 5-10, when David�s response to Shimei is silence because he knew the Lord allowed Shimei to attack him. Then again in Luke 6:27-29 (and elsewhere) were told to bless and pray for those who curse us. That's especially hard to do when the one who offends us thinks they�re speaking for God. There's a time to be quiet. Love covers a multitude of sins� Ultimately, the One we�re submitting to isn't man, but Christ Linda Post Reply
noothergods32 View Profile History	Disagreements & Arguments Posted : 23 Jul, 2009 01:36 PM I don't know of any verse that could reasonably be construed as a command to not discuss the meaning of biblical teachings. However it sounds like this person is not willing to listen to any dissenting opinions and in that situation you can't really do much until they become willing to listen. Post Reply