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but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ
Posted : 7 Nov, 2020 06:24 AM

Galatians 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.



Is it perversion to say we cannot have strength to keep the Lords righteous commandments, when the Lord shows this, they also think somehow Apostle Paul remained the chief sinner......



Romans 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.



Romans 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.



Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.



Apostle Paul thanks God through Jesus Christ, not because we have no strength to do the good, but because we ourselves (without Christ) serve the law of sin, and Christ came to set us free..



John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.





AWAKE, PUT ON STRENGTH, APOSTLE PAUL DID PERSECUTE,  BUT THEN HE LABOURED MORE THAN OTHERS BY THE GRACE OF GOD UPON HIM (STRENGTH AND POWER)



Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.



1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.



THEN PAUL EXHORTS THOSE WITHOUT CHRIST, WITHOUT STRENGTH AND POWER TO STOP BEING DECEIVED BY EVIL WORDS, AWAKE TO RIGHTEOUSNESS AND SIN NOT..



1 Corinthians 15:33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.





THEN APOSTLE PAUL SHOWS HOW WE ARE RAISED WITH CHRIST FROM THE DEAD, QUICKENED WITH HIM IN POWER IN SPIRITUAL BODY, AS THAT WHICH IS SPIRIT IS SPIRIT AND THAT WHICH IS FLESH IS FLESH..



1 Corinthians 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.





THE POWER OF CHRIST RESTS ON US, GOD GIVES US ILLNESS TO PERFECT HIS STRENGTH WITHIN US..



2 Corinthians 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.





CHRIST CRUCIFIED IN WEAKNESS, LIVING BY THE POWER OF GOD, WE ARE WEAK IN HIM BUT LIVE TOWARD EACH OTHER BY THE POWER OF GOD IN LOVE AND HOLINESS..



2 Corinthians 13:4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.





THE STRENGTH OF SIN IS THE LAW, WITHOUT THE LAW THERE IS NO STRENGTH AGAINST US ANY MORE, THE COMMANDMENT OF THE FIRST COVENANT IS WEAK THROUGH THE FLESH, CHRIST CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH, FOR THE LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT, BUT CHRIST BRINGING IN THE BETTER HOPE DID AND WE DRAW TO GOD THROUGH THIS..



1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.



Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:



Hebrews 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.









STRENGTH TO MAKE OUR WAY PERFECT, STRENGTH IN TIME OF TROUBLE, COME TO THE THRONE OF GRACE TO FIND GRACE TO HELP IN TIME OF NEED...



Psalm 18:32 It is God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way perfect.



Psalm 37:39 But the salvation of the righteous is of the Lord: he is their strength in the time of trouble.



Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.





GODS WAYS ARE IN OUR HEART, HIS STRENGTH IN US, WE GO FROM STRENGTH TO STRENGTH, WE BEHOLD THE GLORY OF THE LORD AND ARE CHANGED INTO THE SAME IMAGE FROM GLORY TO GLORY BY THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD..



Psalm 84:5 Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them.

6 Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools.

7 They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God.



2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.





WE ARE GODS ANGELS EXCELLING IN STRENGTH(LIGHT IN US EXCELS DARKNESS) AND WE DO HIS COMMANDMENTS TO HAVE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE..



Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.



Psalm 103:20 Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.





GOD GIVES HIS STRENGTH TO THE UPRIGHT, THROUGH THE WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE LORD AND THE STRENGTH OF SALVATION MAKES THE FEAR OF THE LORD OUR TREASURE, POWER TO THE FAINT AND INCREASES OUR STRENGTH..



Proverbs 10:29 The way of the Lord is strength to the upright: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.



Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.



Isaiah 40:29 He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.





WHEN CONVERTED WE ARE STRENGTHENED AND CAN STRENGTHEN OUR BROTHERS, AS WE SAW IN PAUL INCREASED IN STRENGTH, AND WE WERE WITHOUT STRENGTH, BUT CHRIST DIED FOR THE UNGODLY..



Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.



Acts 9:22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.



Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.





NOW WE HAVE THE LORD GRANT US STRENGTH AND MIGHT BY HIS SPIRIT IN OUR INNER MAN, SO WE CAN NOW DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS US, AND WE ARE STRENGTHENED WITH ALL MIGHT ACCORDING TO HIS GLORIOUS POWER, THE FATHER WHO MADE US MEET TO BE PARTAKERS OF THE INHERITANCE OF THE SAINTS IN LIGHT, WHICH IS US BEING DELIVERED FROM THE POWER OF DARKNESS AND THE WEAKNESS WE ONCE HAD (PAUL ASKS WHO SHALL DELIVER US FROM THAT WEAKNESS?





Ephesians 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;



Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.



Colossians 1:11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:





EVEN A LITTLE STRENGTH OF THE LORD CAUSES US TO KEEP HIS WORD, TO NOT DENY CHRIST, AS CHRIST GAVE US POWER OVER ALL THE POWER OF THE ENEMY, IT NO LONGER CAUSES US UNABLE TO DO THE GOOD WE WOULD AND TO FULFIL THE EVIL WE WOULD NOT, AS ALL WERE ENDUED WITH POWER FROM ON HIGH..



Revelation 3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.



Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.



Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.





THE WORLD CANNOT RECEIVE HOW HE GIVES US POWER TO BECOME THE SONS OF GOD, TO BE BORN AGAIN OF THE LORD GOD, AND AFTER THE HOLY GHOST IS COME UPON US WE RECEIVE POWER, BY PURENESS, KINDNESS, BY LOVE UNFEIGNED, BY THE POWER OF GOD AND THE ARMOUR OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON THE RIGHT HAND AND THE LEFT....



John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.



Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.



2 Corinthians 6:6 By pureness, by knowledge, by long suffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,

7 By the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left,



THE HOLY APOSTLES ARE THE TRUE EXAMPLES, TO PRESENT EVERY MAN PERFECT IN CHRIST JESUS LABOURING AND STRIVING ACCORDING TO HIS WORKING, WHICH WORKED IN THEM MIGHTILY, AS UNLIKE THE ONES STILL IN WEAKNESS OVERPOWERED BY SATAN, GOD HAS NOT GIVEN US THIS SPIRIT OF FEAR, BUT OF POWER AND OF LOVE AND A SOUND MIND, HIS DIVINE POWER HAS GIVEN US ALL THINGS THAT PERTAIN TO LIFE AND GODLINESS THROUGH THE KNOWLEDGE OF CHRIST CALLING US TO GLORY AND VIRTUE..





Colossians 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

29 Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.



2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.



2 Peter 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

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but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ
Posted : 7 Nov, 2020 06:54 AM

Sometimes man is a rebellious sheep who because of self-centeredness, fail to here Christ's Word.



Jesus used sheep to describe His children.



When mankind goes their own way, it becomes harder to hear what Christ is saying you them.







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John 10:1-18

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but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ
Posted : 7 Nov, 2020 06:57 AM

" saying to them"

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LittleDavid

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but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ
Posted : 7 Nov, 2020 07:04 AM

Adam, you mention salvation but do you know what it is?

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Posted : 8 Nov, 2020 12:05 PM

"It would seem you might, at least, have hit squarely on one salvation verse in your lengthy copy and paste posts.



You came >>closest<< with one verse you quoted from Romans.



Adam, there’s a difference between those verses using similar terminology but written for a different purpose as indicated in the contexts of each."



the Holy scriptures are able to make us wise to salvation, all scripture is for instruction in righteousness, to be perfectly furnished unto all good works....





2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.



By the knowledge of Christ we gain strength of salvation, by the remission of the sins, to justify us..





Isaiah 33:6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.



Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,



Isaiah 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.





We hear the word of Christ, and believe on Him or we be condemned if we hate the light and do evil., if our works are wrought in God, then we have come to the light..



John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.



John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.





Not as littledavid says, that only the certain verse he picks are for salvation, but by what Christ says and the works He did are what saves, as they bear witness of Him, the same as evil bears witness there is no eternal life in them..



John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.



John 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.

34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.

35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.

36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.



John 29:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his



Matthew 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.



1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.



1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,



Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.



Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.



littledavid and everybody who refers to the word of God as if it has less or no purpose, and every single time they speak of Gods word as flooding or copying and pasting as if that is making Gods word of no effect, will answer for every idle word they spoke on judgement day, and yes by our words we are justified or condemned..



Matthew 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

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Posted : 8 Nov, 2020 05:14 PM

Adam, congratulations. Well, kinda sorta

Out of your lengthily cut-chop-and-paste-posts, 3 to be exact, supposedly about salvation—you’ve only come up with 2-3 verses that only allude to salvation.

Trouble is, an informed person would have referred to biblical passages that >>directly<< address salvation.

Adam, it’s really no big trick coming up with verses on salvation.

So here’s a helpful hint.

Some Bibles, maybe yours included, has a table of contents and an index. You’ve probably never used either, based on the fact you can’t find verses. But perhaps for the first time make salvation something important to know about and let’s see if you can find “salvation” in the Bible and become saved.

Another tip, look up salvation verses on the net!! And then—do what you do best—cut-chop-copy and paste here again.

So.

Why don’t we give you a 4th cut-chop-and-paste-post opportunity?! Then, you can tell people you finally know verses about salvation and how to get saved—then, please—obey them !!!

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Posted : 9 Nov, 2020 01:29 AM

Salvation for the ones of darkness is 2-3 verses which speak of darkness and transformation, and to throw away the whole of the bible to keep their words of darkness, as the word is light, and light is salvation, darkness is the dust that is left over..



Isaiah 50:11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass yourselves about with sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks that ye have kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.



Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.



John 1: 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.



John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.



Ephesians 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.



2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

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Posted : 9 Nov, 2020 03:07 PM

Adam, once again, nothing about how you got saved! Why is it so hard to tell people how you got saved?

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Posted : 9 Nov, 2020 03:09 PM

One would think you don’t know anything about salvation since you never speak about it

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Posted : 9 Nov, 2020 07:15 PM

Righteousness by FAITH is continual salvation to those who continue to believe David, how do you miss that part of salvation dude? Everyone knows about initial salvation and Adam is obviously a Christian save by the POWER (Grace} of YHWH! So wake up David, as ADAM is teaching ongoing salvation to those doing good (in well doing) works >>>after<<< initial salvation!



Are you really that clueless to the FULL CONTEXT of the Bible to that of salvation and works (evidence of being saved) follows???

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Posted : 9 Nov, 2020 07:17 PM

So why is it sooooooo hard for YOU to set an example David, to tell people YOURSELF how YOU got saved? AND, what was YOU saved from????

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