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LittleDavid

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2020 08:50 AM

There are STILL unbelieving Christians who think “science”, with all its revisions and by gone obsolescent theories AND limitations, is STILL superior to God’s UNCHANGING revelation.

Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE science. I love all the formal sciences, study of systems, the branches of logic and mathematics!!

The Natural sciences: cosmological, geological, physical, chemical, and biological

The empirical sciences like natural and social.

Operational science

AND so many more!!

But I find the abuse of the sciences appalling especially when hijacked as a prop for the Secular Humanist religion



Some Christians seem to have forgotten all about the Christian heritage that is deeply imbedded in the origin of the sciences.

So science is a really a gift from God, it’s really good gift and it’s reliable in many cases but God’s revelation is superior

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Quiznos

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2020 12:56 PM

Davey,

GOD Almighty and His Word, FAULTLESS, you cannot say the same about science or anything of man.

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2020 04:57 PM

Anything that you can't prove for yourself is not science, scientists like everyone else will lie to further an agenda.



God's word doesn't lie but unless you wrote the original scripture and were a witness you cannot be sure that everything in the official Bible is true, especially given that King James was into Daemonology and necromancy.

My theory is that God would allow a certain amount of tampering because the elect would be able to work it out.



Science is a religion and scientists are the priests.

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2020 07:21 PM

I don't think there needs to be a "vs" between the two words. Both can be used to know God better.

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 26 Oct, 2020 09:21 PM

The “vs” means there’s an obvious distinction, ie they’re not exactly the same.

For one thing, one is fallible the other is not.

Another difference, Science is determined by human observation, revelation, on the other hand, uncovers truth unobtainable by human observation

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2020 03:03 AM

"Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE science. I love all the formal sciences, study of systems, the branches of logic and mathematics!!"



The Logic had value to Gods examples given to us, and the STUDY of any of them or.....



John 7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.



Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.



1 Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;



What does it mean if Gods testimonies in the Spirit are ignored and rejected here, it means they are foolishness with God, FOR THE...



1 Corinthians 3:19 FOR THE the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2020 04:28 AM

God is not to be compared to science in any way.



God created the Universe.

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2020 06:23 AM

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2020 07:43 AM

ADAM 7777, let me help.

The verse you quoted,1 Corinthians 3:19, has nothing to do with logic or science.

1 Corinthians 3:19 FOR THE the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

I will help you by offering a quote from Romans 1, written by the same author (Paul). Hopefully this section will help clue you in about the distinction between Gods wisdom and the foolishness of men.



God’s Wrath against Sin

Romans1:18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who >>>suppress the truth by their wickedness<<<. 19For >>>what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them<<<. 20For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been >>>clearly seen<<<, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

(Adam, God is talking about what’s observable to man—that’s—-like—-science)

21For although they >>>knew God<<<, they neither glorified Him as God >>>nor gave thanks<<< to Him, but they >>>became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts<<<. 22Although they CLAIMED TO BE WISE, they BECAME FOOLS, 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

(Adam, the earth sciences, (human observation), clearly reveals the existence of God. But fools don’t want to know God so they become fools of evolution and other foolish doctrines of secular humanism like your perfectionism)

24Therefore God >>>gave them over<<< in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. 25They >>>exchanged the truth<<< of God >>>for a lie<<< and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise!f Amen.

26For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27Likewise, the men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28Furthermore, since they >>>did not see fit to acknowledge God,<<< He gave them up >>>to a depraved mind<<<, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed, and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant, and boastful. They invent new forms of evil; they disobey their parents. 31They are senseless, faithless, heartless, merciless.

32Although >>>they know<<< God’s righteous decree that those who do such things are worthy of death, they not only continue to do these things, but also approve of those who practice them.



So, Adam, man’s rejection of God’s wisdom is foolishness.



NOTE TO SELF: I wonder why all these people, like Adam, who subscribe to heretical doctrines like“perfectionism” always exude with so much biblical ignorance.

You wouldn’t think a “perfectionist“ would be so—-well, imperfect!

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Posted : 27 Oct, 2020 01:48 PM

"(Adam, God is talking about what’s observable to man—that’s—-like—-science)"



What is observable to man, (including science) is temporal, we are not to look at what is temporary, but only at what is eternal in the Heavens..



2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.





No need for you to get excited as if you can mangle any part of the bible you choose, you cant do that any more LittleDavid and any other name you were previously here by.



God showed the invisible things of Himself, His eternal power and Godhead...



Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.



Warned to not be spoiled by philosophy and vain deceit( science and words of this world) they are only of this world, that is not of Christ.



But we are complete in Christ who is that head of all power, the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and the circumcision we see witnessed here, also is made without hands, not of this world, not seen by human eyes of only science. (mistake to trust in what does not exist )





Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead



In God we live, He is everything, and the Godhead is not wise to think of anything to do with what you see in this world or with scientific sight and reasoning, it gets us nowhere near seeing and knowing God..





Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.



"(Adam, the earth sciences, (human observation), clearly reveals the existence of God"



Clearly to a man who can see doing evil is good...Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!



But, the word is more clearer then LittleDavids attempts, no man knows the things of God but the Spirit of God. Science and scientific men know their own selves ONLY.



Mans wisdom teaches nothing of the Lord, it has the wrong spirit, a lying one, but the Holy Spirit teaches the truth, which is that the natural man of science or anything at ll in this entire world, receives nothing of the things of God, they are foolishness to him and he makes mockery of them, neither can he know them, no science project can, as they are, SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED..



1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 28 Oct, 2020 09:10 AM

You wrote another rather lengthy post to say what?

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