In this article, we will be discussing the heresy of sinless perfectionism. It is impossible to be sinless at any time on our Christian walk of faith. Who could claim to be perfect when we look at what God calls perfection? We are trapped in unreedemed flesh and when we compare ourselves to the perfect Christ we fall flat on our face.
When we look to the holiness of God and what is required of us we are without hope. However, thank God that hope does not come from us. Our hope is in Christ alone.
Jesus taught us to confess our sins daily.
Matthew 6:9-12 “Pray, then, in this way: ‘Our Father who is in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. ‘Your kingdom come. Your will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. ‘Give us this day our daily bread. ‘And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.”
When we say that we have no sin we make God a liar.
1 John is a chapter written clearly for believers. When we read 1 John in context, we see that one of the aspects of walking in the light is confessing our sin. When I hear people say that they don’t remember the last time that they sinned and that they are currently living perfectly, that is a lie. We deceive ourselves when we make such claims. Confessing your sins is one of the evidences that you are saved. You can never hide sin in His light.
A person with a genuine relationship with their father is going to confess their faults. The Holy Spirit is going to convict us of sin and if He’s not, that is evidence of false conversion. If God is not treating you as His child, then that is evidence that you are not His. Having unconfessed sin blocks God from listening to you. It’s dangerous to claim to be without sin.
Psalm 19:12 teaches us to confess even our unknown sins. One second of an impure ungodly thought is sin. Worry in sin. Not working 100% fully for the Lord at your job is sin. Sin is missing the mark. No one can do what is required. I know I can’t! I fall short daily, but I don’t live in condemnation. I look to Christ and it gives me joy. All I have is Jesus. I’m trusting in His perfection on my behalf. Our sinfulness makes Christ blood on the cross so much more meaningful and precious.
1 John 1:7-10 “but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.”
Psalm 66:18 “If I had not confessed the sin in my heart, the Lord would not have listened.”
We are not perfect
The Bible says to “be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.” If there is any truth in you, then you are going to admit that you and I are not perfect. “Many are going to say, “why would God command us to do something that we can’t do?” It’s simple, God is the standard and not man. When you start with man you have problems but when you start with God, then you begin to see how holy He is and how desperately you need a Savior.
Everything in this life belongs to Him. Not one single drop of imperfection shall enter into His presence. All we have is the perfection of Christ. Even as a believer I’ve never been perfect. Am I a new creation? Yes! Do I have new desires for Christ and His Word? Yes! Do I hate sin? Yes! Do I strive for perfection? Yes! Am I living in sin? No, but daily I fall so short just like all believers do.
I can be selfish, I don’t do all things for God’s glory, I don’t pray without ceasing, I get distracted in worship, I’ve never loved God with absolutely everything in me, I worry sometimes, I can be covetous in my mind. Just today I accidentally ran a stop sign. This is a sin because I wasn’t obeying the law. There is always going to be something to confess in prayer. Do you not understand the holiness of God? I don’t believe sinless perfectionists do.
Romans 3:10-12 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.”
Psalm 143:2 “Do not bring your servant into judgment, for no one living is righteous before you.”
Ecclesiastes 7:20 “Indeed, there is not a righteous man on earth who continually does good and who never sins.”
Proverbs 20:9 “Who can say, “I have kept my heart pure; I am clean and without sin?”
Psalm 51:5 “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.”
Godly Christians know their sinfulness.
The godliest men in Scripture all had one thing in common. They knew their great need for a Savior. Paul and Peter were close to the light of Christ and when you get closer to the light of Christ you see more sin. Many believers are not getting closer to the light of Christ so they are not seeing their own sinfulness. Paul called himself a “chief of sinners.” He didn’t say I was a chief of sinners. He emphasized his sinfulness because he understood his sinfulness in the light of Christ.
1 Timothy 1:15 “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.”
Luke 5:8 “When Simon Peter saw this, he fell at Jesus’ knees and said, “Go away from me, Lord; I am a sinful man!”
Romans 7 destroys sinless perfectionism.
In Romans 7 we notice Paul talking about his struggles as a believer. Many people are going to say, “he was talking about his past life,” but that is wrong. Here is why it’s wrong. The Bible says unbelievers are a slave to sin, dead in sin, blinded by Satan, they can’t understand the things of God, they are haters of God, they don’t seek God, etc.
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If Paul is talking about his past life why does he desire to do what is good? Verse 19 says, “For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing.” Unbelievers don’t desire to do good. They don’t seek after the things of God. In verse 22 he says, “For I delight in the law of God.” Unbelievers don’t delight in God’s law. In fact, when we read Psalm 1:2; Psalm 119:47; and Psalm 119:16 we see that only believers are delighting in God’s law.
In verse 25 Paul reveals the answer to his struggles. “Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Christ is how we achieve victory over all sin. In verse 25 Paul then goes on to say, “I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.” This shows that he was referring to his current life
Nonbelievers do not struggle with sin. Only believers battle with sin. 1 Peter 4:12 “Don’t be surprised at the fiery trials you are going through.” As believers although we are a new creation there is a battle against the flesh. We are trapped in our humanness and now the Spirit is waging war against the flesh.
Romans 7:15-25 “For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16 Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. 17 So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 21 So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22 For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, 23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.”
Galatians 5:16-17 “But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. 17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.”Sinless perfectionism denies sanctification.
Entire sanctification or Christian perfectionism is a damnable heresy. Once someone is justified by faith in Christ, then comes the sanctification process. God is going to conform the believer into the image of His Son. God is going to work in that believer’s life until death.
If sinless perfectionism is true, then there is no reason for God to work in us and it contradicts various Scriptures. Even Paul addressed believers as carnal Christians. I am not saying a believer will remain carnal, which is not true. A believer will grow, but the fact that he calls believers carnal Christians destroys this false doctrine.
1 Corinthians 3:1-3 “But I, (brothers), could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ. 2 I fed you with milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. And even now you are not yet ready, 3 for you are still of the flesh. For while there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not of the flesh and behaving only in a human way?”
2 Peter 3:18 “But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.”
Philippians 1:6 “And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.”
Romans 12:1-2 “I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
James says, “we all stumble in many ways.”
James 3 is a good chapter to take a look at. In verse 2 it reads, “we all stumble in many ways.” It doesn’t say some, it doesn’t say only unbelievers, it says, “we all.” There are a million ways to stumble before the holiness of God. I sin before I get out of bed. I wake up and I don’t give God the proper glory that is rightfully His.
James 3:8 says, “no human being can tame the tongue.” None! Many people don’t notice how they sin with their mouth. Engaging in gossip, talking about things of the world, complaining, joking in an ungodly way, making a joke at someone’s expense, making a rude comment, telling a half truth, saying a curse word, etc. These all false short of doing all things for God’s glory, loving God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and loving your neighbor as yourself.
James 3:2 “We all stumble in many ways. Anyone who is never at fault in what they say is perfect, able to keep their whole body in check.”
James 3:8 “but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.”
Psalm 130:3 “LORD, if you kept a record of our sins, who, O Lord, could ever survive?”
All I have is Christ.
The fact of the matter is, Jesus did not come for those who are righteous. He came for sinners Matthew 9:13. Most sinless perfectionists believe you can lose your salvation. As John Macarthur said, “If you could lose your salvation, you would.” We all fall short of God’s standard. Can anyone love God perfectly with everything in them 24/7? I’ve never been able to do this and if you are honest, you have never been able to do this as well.
We always talk about the outward sins, but how about the sins of the heart? Who wants to live like that? “Oh no I accidentally ran a stop sign I lost my salvation.” It really is stupid and it’s a deception from Satan. There are some people that are going to say, “you’re leading people to sin.” Nowhere in this article did I tell someone to sin. I said we struggle with sin. When you become saved you are no longer a slave to sin, dead in sin, and now you have the power to overcome sin. Evidence of your faith in Christ is that you will be new. Your life will reveal a change. You will put off the old life, but once again we are still trapped in our humanness. There is going to be a struggle. There is going to be a battle.
When we see passages such as 1 John 3:8-10; 1 John 3:6; and 1 John 5:18 that say people born of God will not keep on sinning, it’s not saying you won’t ever sin which contradicts the beginning of John. It’s referring to a lifestyle. It’s referring to those who use grace as an excuse to sin. It’s referring to the continual pursuing and practice of sin. Only fake Christians live in willful sin and worldliness. Fake Christians don’t want to change and they are not new creations. They will probably cry because they got caught, but that is it. They have worldly sorrow and not godly sorrow. They don’t seek help.
Believers struggle! There are times when we will weep over our sins. We want to be more for Christ. This is a mark of a genuine believer. Matthew 5:4-6 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled.”
However, for the most part believers can take comfort that we have a Savior, we have a risen King, we have Jesus who fully satisfied God’s wrath on the cross. Instead of looking at yourself look to Christ. What a privilege and what a blessing to know that my salvation is not dependent on me.
I’m trusting in the perfect merit of Jesus Christ and that is enough. Every day when I confess my sins I am more thankful of His blood. As I grow in Christ the Lord’s grace and His blood becomes more and more real. Romans 7:25 NLT “Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord.”
1 John 2:1 “My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. (But) if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father–Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.”
Littlest David: Quiznos never refuted over 4 of his quotes claiming he believes in **SINLESS PERFECTION** and you are the big **LIAR**
QUIZNOS AND ADAM7777 BELIEVE IN THE SATANIC DOCTRINE OF SINLESS PERFECTION AFTER SAVATION???
QUIZNOS QUOTE
"IF WE SIN ON PURPOSE AFTER WE RECEIVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH THERE IS **NO MORE** FORGIVENESS FOR OUR SINS NO MORE SACRIFICING OF CHRIST FOR US???"
AND LITTLEST DAVID DEFENDS THEIR RIDICULOUS SATANIC DOCTRINE OF SINLESS PERFECTION**!!**!!
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach **US** to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"
James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!
Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}
Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!
Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!
More hiding under your bed David, sliding your pagan teaching articles out for people to read? I see your beady little weasel eyes looking out! Another Ghost that is not on the forum to have a discussion with....LMBO! Reminds of the many doctrines that I have had with past "shepherds of the flock" as some got angry while the honest ones said "well I can see the truth in your studies you have presented IN PERSON but if I teach that I will be out of a job!!! WOAH! So DIE IN SIN teaching error??? Crazy what money does to feed you family etc Can you believe it, just go independent denomination, right? Not so fast as I have spoken with some of them and they say they teach what is popular to attendance of the people! Wow! So there you have it, people raised in false teachings "churches" and they don't want to know any different because we all love Jesus/Iesus/Zeus (even though they break His commandments!) they say!
Oh wait the thread title is exposer! Of what, Perfection in Continual Sinning?
Well then lets expose one!
From my 1599 Geneva Bible - Romans 3:23 "21. But now is the righteousness of God made manifest without the Law, having witness of the Law, and of the Prophets, 22. To wit, the righteousness of God by the faith of [z]Jesus Christ, unto all, and upon all that believe. 23. For there is no difference: >>>for all have sinned,<<< and >are deprived< of the [aa]glory of God, Note friends how so called "AboundingGrace" claims no POWER (which is also Grace) to NOT twist what the KJV says to that of his coveted "bishops and Geneva versions" THAT SAY THE SAME THING, yet claims (by opinion) two words changes everything - "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Then so called "AboundingGrace" adds his opinion that makes no sense - "the phrase in the kjv with the word "have" makes the reader think that "have" goes with the last part of the verse. "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Who are YOU to tell us what we think when we read that verse, so called "AboundingGrace"??? And what about "that last part of the verse" you claim changes everything (???) and contradicts the REST (there's your "rest" time Quizzy!) of the Bible, of the POWER of YHWH to KEEP KEEP KEEP you from sinning???
So called "AboundingGrace" once again attempts to pollute the Scriptures when he says - ">>>all continue<<< to fall short and >>>are continually lacking<<< of God's glory. I don't know what the kjv translators intended here. But it is the present tense, >>>we continually fall short of God's glory.<<<
Why not use your common sense and reasoning so that you don't claim contradictions in the Bible with other verses listed at the end of my post below???
KJV - For all have (had-past) sinned (not currently sinning!), and come short (in past times) of the glory of YHWH.
GENEVA - For there is no difference: for all have (had-past) sinned (not currently sinning!), and are deprived (in times past) of the [aa]glory of YHWH,
So where is the difference again in those verses my false teaching friend? Nothing other than your HANG UP on the word "deprived" in your reasoning skills to that of the CONTEXT of the rest of the Bible on the TRUE Righteousness by FAITH verses! Correct? There is a huge difference in meaning between words like "continue" and "continually" to that of the word "deprived" my clueless friend, right? Anyone can look up those definitions with so much of the "AboundingGrace" that you have! LOL!
Good grief so MUCH "AboundingGrace", what kind of abounding grace (weak power) is that you have, from the devil of LIARS like pathetic7744??? Change your name then to "I wish by FAITH I had the abounding POWER of YHWH to tell the truth" There I fixed it for you! Now repent and >>>be<<< (present tense) saved again! At least I hope you have (note the correct past tense here) been (past tense) saved once (in the past) upon a time in your life from your PAST sins anyway?
Here let me help you with your new JW bible translation, when you get it published anyway - cultized romans 3:23 - "For all will "continue" to sin, they just cannot help themselves but to "continually" sin, and THEREFORE they will always come short (but somehow they are righteous anyway living in sin?) of the glory of (powerless?) YHWH. There did I fix it for you false teacher?
1 John 4:4 "Ye are (present tense) of YHWH, little children, and have (present tense) >>>overcome them:<<< (and those sins of past) because greater (not lesser as you claim in your ever "AboundingGrace"/POWER) is >>>He (YHWH's set apart Holy Spirit) that is >>>in you<<< (oh really friends CAN it be the Spirit can get victory over our sins THRU and in us?), than he (satan the accuser, much like others on this forum that work for him) that (presently) is in the (this) world.
BUT BUT BUT John LIED to us you say!? Because you all love your pet sins, that why you THINK he lied! Well lets look at another "liar" that you will claim without saying it directly and call HIM out like all the Scripture that ADAM7777 CONTEXTUALLY gives! Who is that you say?
Matthew 5:48 Yah'shua says - Be (present tense) >>>ye therefore perfect<<< (present and future tense), even as your Father which is in heaven is (always been, we HAD been (all past tense) NOT perfect THEN) perfect.
BUT BUT BUT no my LOVING Messiah, I don't want to call you a liar but but but pathetic7744, David and others on the forum say we will always sin! So please change your words to "Try to be perfect but I know you cannot by my Fathers set apart powerless Spirit that I had when I walked the earth as an example to you and I promise to change you into a robot one day so that you don't choose to sin anymore, ok? In fact I'm going to change everybody into a ROBOT (like Richard7744 teaches "predestination" as you are forced to be what you are!) rather they like it or not, so they cannot sin and so everyone will have eternal life, you see? Selah!
And there are a TON more verses that teach REAL life Righteousness by the Faith! And WHERE does that POWER come from?
The Righteousness of YHWH by the faith of Yah'shua , said in previous verse 22, MUCH "Abounding (of not much) Grace" left out in the Geneva Bible I listed above for the Pharisee "blind guides" here on this forum!
THE SON OF GOD DECLARED THE FATHER TO THIS DARKNESS WORLD OF MAN...
John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and THE DARKNESS COMPRE4HENDED IT NOT.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED HIM.
THIS IS THE MESSAGE DECLARED TO THE DARKNESS OF MEN..
GOD IS LIGHT AND TYOU CANNOT FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM IN ANY OF YOUR DARKNESS..
1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him,AND DECLARE UNTO YOU , that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE,, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
ITS REPENTING OF ALL DARKNESS THEN CLEANSED OF ALL DARKNESS/UNRIGHTEOUSNESS BY JESUS CHRIST
CONTINUES, WE FORSAKE THE SINS TO HAVE MERCY..
Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso CONFESSTH AND FORSAKETH them shall have mercy.
AS THE MERCY WE SHOW REJOICES OVER GODS JUDGEMENT..
James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
THE CHASRITY CHRIST GIVES INTO US COVERS THE MULTITUDE OF SINS WHEN WE WALK IN PERFECT CHARITY...
1 Peter 4:8 And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
IT IS BLESSED TO HAVE OUR SINS COVERED ( FORSAKEN ALSO)
Romans 4:7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
AS GOD SENT HIS SON TO BLESS US IN TURNING US AWAY FROM ALL INIQUITY..
Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.
UNGODLINESS IS TURNED AWAY FROM JACOB, THIS IS THE CIVENANT HE MAKES WITH US WHEN GOD TAKES AWAY OUR SINS (AS PER 1 JOHN 1 CLEANSES US OF ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS)...
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
AS CHRIST GAVE HIMSELF FOR US TO FREDEEM US FROM ALL INIQUITY...
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
ALSO CHRIST HAS ALRTEADY DECLARED, ALL WORKERS OF INIQUITY ARE TO DEPART FROM HIM WHO CALL HIM LORD LORD..
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
SHIOW ISRAEL, AND THOSE OF THE FIRST COIVENANT AND THE LAW THEIR SINS
THEY DELIGHT TO KNOW GODS WAYS
AND DELIGHT APPROACHING TO GOD...
Isaiah 58:Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and SHEW MY PEOPLE THEIR TRANSGRESSIONS, and the house of Jacob THEIR SINS.
2 Yet they seek me daily, AND DELIGHT TO KNOW MY WAYS, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; THEY DELIGHT IN APPROACHING TO GOD.
EVIL/SIN DWELLS IN ALL THOSE OF THE FIRST COVENANT, THOSE BELIEVING IN THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH
FOR THEY DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD ( THE LAW OF THE FIRST CIVENANT)
BUT SADLY THEY OBEY THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH..
Romans 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 FOR I DELIGHT IN THE LAW OF GOD after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN which is IN MY MEMBERS.
Romans 7:5 For when we were in the FLESH, THE MOTIONS OF SINS, WHUCH WERE BY THE LAW, did WORK IN OUR MEMBERS TO BRING FRUIT UNTO DEATH.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH:
4 That the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW MIGHT BE FULFILLED IN US, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Once again you reveal how you understand or do not understand how to read, and study the Scriptures.
You do as most people, you think of a subject, then you find as many scripture to fit into your subject, yet you never give the entire context that refutes your understanding.
John writes, 1 John 1 verse 5 - 10
5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth;
7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
Verse 9, to cleanse, this is in the PRESENT indicative ACTIVE tense, meaning GOD Almighty is always cleansing us, as we are not completely SINLESS in this life.
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and PURIFY UNTO HIMSELF a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him PURIFIETH HIMSELF, EVEN AS HE IS PURE.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS, EVEN AS HE IS RIGHTEOUS.
8 HE THAT COMMITETH SIN IS OF THE DEVIL; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is BORN OF GOD DOTH NOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
James 4:5 Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU.
8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. CLEANSE YOUR HANDS, YE SINNERS, and PURIFY YOUR HEARTS, ye double minded.
Hebrews 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, SANCTIFIETH FOR THER PURIFYING OF THE FLESH:
14 How much more shall THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, who through THE ETERNAL SPIRIT offered himself WITHOUT SPOT to God, PURGE YOUR CONSCIENCE from dead works to serve the living God?
Psalm 24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands, and A PURE HEART; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
5 He shall receive the BLESSING FROM THE LORD, and RIGHTEOUSNESS from the GOD of HIS SALVATION.
6 This is the GENERATION of THEM THAT SEEK HIM, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the MEEK: for they shall inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst AFTER RIGHTEOUSNESS: for they shall be filled.
7 Blessed are THE MERCIFUL: for they SHALL OBTAIN MERCY.
8 Blessed are THE PURE IN HEART: for they shall SEE GOD.
2 Corinthians 6:3 Giving NO OFFENCE IN ANY THING, that the ministry be not blamed:
4 But in all things APPROVING OURSELVES as the ministers of God, in much patience, in afflictions, in necessities, in distresses,
5 In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;
6 BY PURENESS, by knowledge, by long suffering, BY KINDNESS, by the Holy Ghost, by LOVE UNFEIGNED,
1 Timothy 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is CHARITY OUT OF A PURE HEART, and OF A GOOD CONSCIENCE, and OF FAITH UNFEIGNED:
1 Timothy 3:9 Holding the mystery of the FAITH IN A OURE CONSCIENCE.
1 Timothy 5:22 Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of other men's sins: KEEP THYSELF PURE.
2 Timothy 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from my forefathers WITH PURE CONSCIENCE, that without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night and day;
2 Timothy 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow RIGHTEOUSNESS, faith, charity, peace, with them that CALL ON THE LORD OUT OF A PURE HEART.
Titus 1:15 UNTO THE PURE ALL THINGS ARE PURE: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
1 Peter 1:22 Seeing ye have PURIFIED YOUR SOULS IN OBEYING THE TRUTH THROUGH THE SPIRIT unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another WITH A PURE HEART FERVENTLY:
2 Peter 3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up YOUR PURE MINDS by way of remembrance:
Its really getting quite hilarious in how Quizzy AND David here this thread, is getting owned by ADAM7777 simple method of exposing Quizzy of his obvious error with CONTEXTUAL verses on the subject RIGHTEOUSNESS By FAITH living! So proven here below now, it is Dizzy Quizzy that has NOW revealed that he does NOT understand nor understand how to read, and study the Scriptures in FULL Bible context. not ADAM7777!
You see Quizzy does as most CULTIST do, think of a subject, take it out of context to the ENTIRE Bible, give it your own words THEN to fit into his agenda subject thinking, yet he never gives the entire BIBLE context that refutes in what he claims to refute! Lol!
Wow Dizzy Quizzy you just keep getting OWNED by all of ADAM7777 continual verses that teach Righteousness by FAITH in living by YHWH's set part Spirit POWER to keep us from sinning! I know your FAILED system of no entire Bible context on the subject is your problem and ADAM7777 is attempting to wake you up in your interpretation that the Bible has contradictions, which of course it does not! Note in verse 6, that "IF" we chose to "WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE and do not (live presently) the truth" just as ADAM7777 correctly says! Can you actually READ verses Quizzy???
1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him,AND DECLARE UNTO YOU , that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and WALK IN DARKNESS, WE LIE,, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
Dizzy Quizzy singles out verse 9 of 1 John 1, always claiming OTHERS are taking the subject out of context when he does himself! The pot calling the kettle black! LOL!
But he ONLY gives his interpretation of verse 9 in his own reasoning abilities but FAILS to reason out the rest (for Quizzy ALSO claims no Sabbath rest Day either in its context to the word rest in Christ to that of rest in Sabbath Day) of 1 John 1 verses??? Odd!
For he says - 9. "to cleanse, this is in the PRESENT indicative ACTIVE tense, meaning GOD Almighty is >>>always cleansing us,<<< as >>>we are not completely SINLESS in this life."<<<
Well good golly miss molly, the big DUUUUUUH Dizzy Quizzy uses his reasoning abilities for all present tense in verse 9 but FAILS to understand CONTEXT to the subject that verse 8 is present tense and past tense! But note how he ADDS words to the Bible like - >>>always cleansing us,<<< as >>>we are not completely SINLESS in this life."<<< but what does verse 8 say without Quizzies corruption of addition?
8. For "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
So "If we say we have" NEVER sinned or no sin before (in the past when we CHOSE to sin or presently when we deny obeying the set apart Spirit of YHWH to sin presently), we deceive ourselves (presently if we chose to sin and in past saying we NEVER sinned!) and sooo THEREFORE the truth is not in us (presently, nor was it in our past by our choices!).
THEN to verse 9, Sooooooo IF IF IF we should CHOSE to sin again (presently), to deny that PERFECT guidance and POWER (Grace) from YHWH the Father thru His set apart Spirit of Himself (Quizzy leaves out of the WHOLE Bible context subject of YHWH's perfection Spirit) yet "confess our sins" (Quizzy use to JUST call it UNBELIEF, never identifying the sin word, his strange
doctrine then, now he has changed his mind?) He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (our present sins IF IF IF we chose to sin that is!) and to cleanse us (the promise!) from all unrighteousness!
You see the HUGE problem with Quizzy is that he is soooooo Dizzy that he actually thinks satan is more powerful in his life than YHWH is! He calls his pagan deity gud or good "God ALMIGHTY" but then He is STRANGELY a weakling and not so "ALMIGHTY" after all? The core issue is Quizzys FAITH, he just seems to claim very little or none! He just cannot fathom the idea
that "greater is He (YHWH by His set apart Spirit) is in us than he (the devil) is in the world"
Wow! So Quizzy thinks the rest of us don't have any faith like him in and OF YHWH's set apart Spirit. He will have to live with his choices of "continually sinning" that the Bible does not teach for us to do!
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned (past tense), and come short (in the past before being converted, born again) of the glory of YHWH!
Quizzy in all his Dizziness thinks being born again is to be born again into "continually sinning" like a pink energizer bunny with no end! YHWH's set apart Spirit is useless to Quizzy to keep him from sinning BECAUSE of the Quizzy useless FAITH, which is NO FAITH! But come on Quizzy, we are NOT all unFAITHful like you, ok?
