Righteousness: Where does your righteousness come from!
Posted : 13 Jun, 2020 04:20 PM
Hello everyone;
Where does your righteousness come from, is it from repenting of sin, doing good works OR from trusting Yashua.
1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things [again] is no trouble to me, and it is a safeguard for you.
2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision;
3 for we are the [true] circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
4 although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more:
5 circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee;
6 as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.
7 But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ.
8 More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,
9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from [the] Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which [comes] from God on the basis of faith,
10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death;
11 in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.
Righteousness: Where does your righteousness come from!
Posted : 14 Jun, 2020 05:41 PM
Quiz, first of all, the passage you cited doesn’t denounce repenting of sin. Why would any NT writer contradict Jesus!!?
Second, It appears you might not have read the entire passage before you copied it? I’m sending you a fresh copy below to reread or maybe read for the first time. I’m saying, read for “first time” because nobody in the last 2000 years reading that passage has found the word “repentance” in that passage. But who knows, maybe you’ll be the first to discover it.
Seriously. Just as a friendly nudge here, please read the passage again. But. Please take note, it’s about the “false circumcision” and people thinking they can attain righteousness by placing confidence in the flesh via “circumcision“ or by other “good works“.
Since circumcision (the false circumcision) was used by false teachers to boast in the flesh, how do you make the connection from circumcision to repentance which is hardly boast-worthy??
But here’s the clincher, Quiz, nobody seeks notoriety by confessing what a hell deserving sinner they are!!
Quiz, how can anyone boast in repentance???? Let’s see what “boasting” in repentance looks like: “here I am Lord, a filthy thief, a liar, a coward and a whole lot of other reeeaallyy bad stuff. Lord have mercy, I repent in dust and ashes!”
So Quiz, you’re saying the guy who prays like that is now going around boasting about being a filthy thief, liar and a coward and at the same time claiming to be righteous???!!!
Come on Quiz!!
Don’t worry Quiz, your “best friend” has troubles making those kinda distinctions too. We’re all on this together.
Quiz don’t forget to check out the passage below, this time read only the dark print not the white spaces!
1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things [again] is no trouble to me, and it is a safeguard for you.
2 Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision;
3 for we are the [true] circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
4 although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more:
5 circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee;
6 as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.
7 But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ.
8 More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,
9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from [the] Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which [comes] from God on the basis of faith,
10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death;
11 in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.
Righteousness: Where does your righteousness come from!
Posted : 14 Jun, 2020 10:16 PM
Davey,
Am quite aware of what i posted,to show that our righteousness, is by FAITH in Messiah Alone, nothing else, not keeping the law,not repenting of any sin, and not good works.
