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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 24 May, 2020 04:59 PM

**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3



Hebrews 5:9 Jesus became the source of salvation for **ALL WHO **OBEY** HIM**!



James 1:22-25: Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves.**DO WHAT IT SAYS**! Anyone who listens to the word but does not do what it says is like someone who looks at his face in a mirror and after looking at himself, goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like. But whoever looks into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it--not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it--they will be blessed in what they do!



I John 2:1-5: Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know Him **IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDS**! Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!



John 14:21,23,24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commmands and **KEEPS THEM** is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will **OBEY MY TEACHING**, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching.



I Corinthians 9:21: I am not free from God's law but **AM UNDER **CHRIST'S LAW**!!



John 15:10,14: Jesus says, "If you **KEEP MY COMMANDS**, you will remain in My love... My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends. You are My friends if you do what I command!!"



Acts 5:32: God exalted to Him to His own right hand as Prince and Savior that He might bring Israel to repentance and forgive their sins. We are witnesses to these things and so is the **HOLY SPIRIT**, **WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THOSE **WHO OBEY HIM**!



John 5:2,3: This is how we know that we love the children of God: by loving God and **CARRYING OUT HIS COMMANDS**. In fact, this is love for God: to **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**! And His commands are not burdensome!



Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors **HAS CHOSEN YOU TO KNOW HS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to **HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**hear words from His mouth. You will be His witness to all people of what you have seen and heard!"



There are about 400 New Testament commands which God's saints should all strive to keep with the hope of countless eternal **REWARDS** for faithful and loving service!!



Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!”



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and THEN He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!"



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own, he will only speak what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from Me what he will make known to you!"



The Holy Spirit inspired all the words written in the New Testament that Jesus told him to inspire to write: by Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, James and Jude!



Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, **FIXING OUR EYES ON JESUS**, The **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "All authority in heaven and **ON EARTH** has been given to **ME**! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I HAVE COMMANDED YOU**!{THE ENTIRE NEW TESTAMENT!}! And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age!"



Hebrews 7:18: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS**, for the law made nothing perfect and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced , by which we draw near to God!



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "Why do you call Me, 'Lord, Lord' and do not do what I say?? As for everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**, I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid the foundation on rock. When a flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears My words and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a judge for the one who does not accept My Words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"



Romans 6:17,18; But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to **OBEY FROM YOUR HEART** the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. You have been set free from sin and become slaves to righteousness!



I Peter 1:22-25: Now that you have purified yourselves by **OBEYING THE TRUTH** so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply from the heart. For you have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**... And this is the Word that was preached to you!

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 24 May, 2020 09:18 PM

Can you enlighten us on what commands you keep , Parrot?

Just curious . A list would be helpful .

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 24 May, 2020 09:23 PM

1 Corinthians 9:21

You quote that you are not free from God's law but am under Christs law..

hmmm.

I am confused.

You say that Christs law is different than the Fathers, right?

but it seems its one and the same according to the scripture you posted.

Can you enlighten us as to how Christs law is different than the Fathers?

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 25 May, 2020 05:28 AM

Since Jesus told the holy spirit what to inspire the 8 writers of the New Testament exactly what to write the author of the entire New Testament is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, The new Testament has about 400 laws which are also **CHRIST'S LAW** Every born from above believer tries to keep all of the 400 laws of the NT with the hope of countless **ETERNAL REWARDS** for faithful and loving service



The New Testament Covenant for all the nations of the word is completely different from God's Old Testament laws for Israel.



Revelation 22: 12;16-18: Jesus says "Look, I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.... I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**.. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. {Which includes eternal hell as per Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem} which are described in this book.



Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that **NOTHING THAT ENTERS A MAN FROM THE **OUTSIDE** CAN MAKE HIM **UNCLEAN**? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN! For what comes out of a man is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. Al these evils come from inside and make a person **UNCLEAN**!"



THIS COMMAND BY JESUS **IMMEDIATELY** ELIMINATED THE MANY UNCLEN FOODS FORBIDDEN BY OLD TESTAMENT LAWS IN LEVITICUS 11:1-47



WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS** for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced by which we draw near to God!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!

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Posted : 25 May, 2020 05:55 AM

Since Jesus told the holy spirit exactly what he should inspire the 8 writers of the New Testament what to write the Jesus id the Author of every word in the New Testament Covenant. Every born from above saint will try to obey all of the approximately 400 New Covenant laws with the hope of countless **ETERNAL REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



Revelation 22: 12;16-18: Jesus says "Look, I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.... I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**.. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. {Which includes eternal hell as per Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem} which are described in this book.



Some of the New Covenant laws can be found in I Timothy 2:9-13: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency propriety, not with excessive braided hair gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds appropriate for women who profess to worship God. a woman should learn in quietness. I do no permit a woman**TO TEACH or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet.



Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that **NOTHING THAT ENTERS A MAN FROM THE **OUTSIDE** CAN MAKE HIM **UNCLEAN**? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN! For what comes out of a man is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. Al these evils come from inside and make a person **UNCLEAN**!



THIS COMMAND BY JESUS **IMMEDIATELY** ELIMINATED THE MANY UNCLEN FOODS FORBIDDEN BY OLD TESTAMENT LAWS IN LEVITICUS 11:1-47



WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS** for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced by which we draw near to God!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 26 May, 2020 07:23 AM

KJVonly! First of all its great to see you are back and posting questions of truth on this forum but sadly Richard the false teacher ONCE again has no answers to WHAT commandments (instructions) that he keeps and that is odd to say the least, no!? The whole title of Richard's thread is SUPPOSE to be about the Messiah and keeping His commands but Richard FAILS to do so because the Messiah NEVER ate UNCLEAN animals that Richard implies that He ate and came to change the Biblical diet!!!??? There is NO difference between what Richard calls "Christ's Law" to that of His Fathers original Torah Law other than the Messiah expanding on it all AND fulfilling the animal sacrifices, priestly duties etc.... Lets look at one example of how Richard the false teacher takes Scripture and twists its meaning by leaving OUT the context of the story!



Is it true friends of what Richard states that - "The New Testament Covenant for all the nations of the world is completely different from God's Old Testament laws for Israel" ??? Absolutely NOT!



Mark 7:1-5 (all NIV) Verse 1 "The Pharisees and some of the teachers of the law..." Verse 2 "saw some of his disciples eating food with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed." verse 3 "Pharisees and Jews do not eat unless they give their hands a ceremonial washing, manmade traditions! verse 4 "come from the marketplace they do not eat unless they wash." Finally Verse 5 "Pharisees asked Messiah, Why don't disciples live according to the TRADITIONS of washing, instead of >>>EATING THEIR FOOD WITH DEFILED (UNWASHED) HANDS?"<<<



Then the rest of the story is picked up in verses 18-23 that Richard FAILS to see and does NOT want new people, new Christians visiting this forum to see!



Mark 7:18-23 (NIV) 18. "Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19. "For it doesn't go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)" 20. "He went on: "What comes out of a person is what defiles them." 21. "For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder," 22. "adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly." 23. "All these evils come from inside and defile a person."



Now look at the gospel of Matthew and the Messiah's EXACT same story from Matthew's written view but a MUCH shorter description but to the point, describing similar to what Mark stated, yet condensed in what the Messiah said! It is soooo obvious that it is the exact same story IN CONTEXT of the accused apostles of eating with dirty unwashed hands by the Pharisees!



Matthew 15:16-20 (NIV) 16. "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them." 17. "Don't you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body?" 18. "But the things that come out of a person's mouth come from the heart, and these defile them." 19. "For out of the heart come evil thoughts--murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." 20. "These are what defile a person; but >>>EATING WITH UNWASHED HANDS does NOT defile them."<<<



Your in denial of truth Richard! Because you like eating your sinful disgusting "abominations" the Bible describes as unclean animals! What you call "food" that was NEVER to be food nor stated so in the Bible and for some strange reason YOU want to be a filthy gentile!? You will be judged someday for your eating of "Maine lobster tail" that you stated you eat and will die in that sin if you don't repent and turn away from those scavengers, waste eaters, you call "food" which is Biblically said NOT to eat!



Note the rest of Richard the pathetic7744 false teacher MANY verses he quotes that are OUT of CONTEXT to the subject he is ATTEMPTING to address! In his ATTEMPT to blur I guess the real message of the Messiah for some strange reason???

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 26 May, 2020 12:57 PM

John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own, he will only speak what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from Me what he will make known to you!"



Since Jesus told the holy spirit exactly what he should inspire the 8 writers of the New Testament what to write then Jesus is the Author of every word in the New Testament Covenant. Every born from above saint will try to obey all of the approximately 400 New Covenant laws with the hope of countless **ETERNAL REWARDS** for faithful and loving service



.Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, **FIXING OUR EYES ON JESUS**, The **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!





Revelation 22: 12;16-18: Jesus says "Look, I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.... I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**.. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. {Which includes eternal hell as per Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem} which are described in this book.



Some of the New Covenant laws can be found in I Timothy 2:9-13: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency propriety, not with excessive braided hair gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds appropriate for women who profess to worship God. a woman should learn in quietness. I do no permit a woman**TO TEACH or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet.



Teddyhugger agrees with the evil Pharisees that the disciples of Jesus were sinning because they were eating food with unwashed hands???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD AND JESUS SAY**??



Mark 7:5-8: So the Pharisees {LikeTeddyHugger} and teachers of the law asked Jesus, "Why don't your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?" Jesus replied "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you **HYPOCRITES** As it is written, 'They worship Me in vain, their teachings are merely human rules.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions!"



And so Jesus stated that the Pharisees were **HYPOCRITES** bacause they claimed the disciples were sinnung because they were eating wuth unwashed hands which is not part of God's Commands but is based on their own human traditions and the Pharisees had many human traditions that they tried to force on the Israelites.



Anyone with half a brain can easily see that Mark 7:18-23 below has absolutely nothing to do with unwashed hands:



Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that **NOTHING THAT ENTERS A MAN FROM THE **OUTSIDE** CAN MAKE HIM **UNCLEAN**? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN! For what comes out of a man is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. Al these evils come from inside and make a person **UNCLEAN**!



THIS COMMAND BY JESUS **IMMEDIATELY** ELIMINATED THE MANY UNCLEAN FOODS FORBIDDEN BY OLD TESTAMENT LAWS IN LEVITICUS 11:1-47



Teddy Hugger claims that we are still under the supervision of Old Testament law??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS** for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced by which we draw near to God!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." **CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE **CURSE** OF THE LAW** by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH** day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!



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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 26 May, 2020 09:33 PM

Richard,,,

Parrot

You use a modern translation of which is added that Jesus made ALL foods clean...so I understand that you quote from that with the belief that was what Jesus meant/did...but the King James only says the following:

Mark 7:19 King James Bible (standard)

Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, >>>purging all meats?<<<

Isn't this talking about waste?

Please just say yes or no for my quote of the scriptures.

The NEW king james, corrupt version says much the same as your version,,

NOTE:New King James Version

because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, >>>thus purifying all foods?”<<<

Seems to me we have a contradiction of the scriptures wouldn't you say? Ask yourself why is that??

I will tell you why...because modern translations have been corrupted by the Vatican who has authority over the revisions . Source : 27th editon of the Nestle-Alland page 45.

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 27 May, 2020 06:30 AM

**DOES THE KING JAMES VERSION ALSO IMPLY THAT JESUS MADE ALL FOODS CLEAN**??



Mark 7:15-23: KJV: Jesus says, "There is **NOTHING FROM **WITHOUT** A MAN THAT ENTERING INTO HIM CAN DEFILE HIM. But the things which come out of a man these are they that defile a man.... And He said unto them, Are you so without understanding THAT WITHOUT ENTERETH INTO THE MAN IT CAN NOT DEFILE HIM**because it entereth not into his heart, but **INTO HIS BELLY**AND GOETH OUT INTO HIS DRAUGHT** purging all meats." And He said, "That which cometh out of a man, that defileth a man!" For within out of the heart of man, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, blasphemy, pride, All these evil things come from within, and defile a man!"



The KJV version also implies making all foods clean by the above statements by Jesus: "NOTHING FROM WITHOUT A MAN THAT ENTERING INTO HIM CAN DEFILE HIM** **IT GOETH INTO HIS BELLY AND GOETH OUT INTO HIS DRAUGHT** is obviously referring to **FOOD** Good Bible translations only insert { } words that are completely obvious from the texts, and is justly included in all good Protestant translations



Since Jesus told the holy spirit what to inspire the 8 writers of the New Testament exactly what to write the author of the entire New Testament is our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, The new Testament has about 400 laws which are also **CHRIST'S LAW** Every born from above believer tries to keep all of the 400 laws of the NT with the hope of countless **ETERNAL REWARDS** for faithful and loving service!



The New Testament Covenant for all the nations of the word is completely different from God's Old Testament laws for Israel.



Revelation 22: 12;16-18: Jesus says "Look, I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.... I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**.. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. {Which includes eternal hell as per Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem} which are described in this book.



Mark 7:18,19: Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that **NOTHING THAT ENTERS A MAN FROM THE **OUTSIDE** CAN MAKE HIM **UNCLEAN**? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN! For what comes out of a man is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. Al these evils come from inside and make a person **UNCLEAN**!"



THIS COMMAND BY JESUS **IMMEDIATELY** ELIMINATED THE MANY UNCLEN FOODS FORBIDDEN BY OLD TESTAMENT LAWS IN LEVITICUS 11:1-47



WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS** for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced by which we draw near to God!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 27 May, 2020 09:35 AM

KJVonly!



With all due respect young lady, you are helping to create a distraction JUST like Richard7744 the "parrot" does! Its obvious and we have been thru the translation thing long ago of yours! Remember? So did you not learn anything, that ALL translations have some type of "error" yet ALL are corrected EASILY when we study the Bible in its CONTEXT in WHATEVER translation you use! OK? SURE the cathoholic "church" has "corrupted" the Bible (Like adding Matt, 28:19!) but its soooooo easy to correct when you study the entire Bible on the subject! YHWH KNEW this was coming and the Bible is written and INSPIRED by men having the HOLY SPIRIT in them when penning the WORDS! So satan and his cathoholic "church" are powerless really to have changed the CONTEXTUAL message and subject study WHEN we use the WHOLE Bible in study, ok? KJVonly, why not use Richard's coveted NIV against him like I do and then watch him try to weasel his way out what it obviously says! Like for instance, Richard7744 has no excuse not to see that Mark 7:1-5 and 18-23 together in >>context<< to that of Matthew 15:16-20 in his NIV tell the SAME EXACT story of the wicked Pharisees and their TRADITIONS >>of washing hands before eating<< that the Messiah is saying are NOT commandments of YHWH!

Here below is WHAT Richard7744 should post if he was honest and understood the CONTEXT to the subject matter and so I helped CORRECT his error and incomplete non truthful message! Everybody reading this please respond in your version if you think this makes sense to you? How about you KJO, what do you think?



**DOES THE KING JAMES VERSION ALSO IMPLY THAT JESUS MADE ALL FOODS CLEAN THAT WERE EATEN WITH UNWASHED HANDS**??

Mark 7:15-23: KJV: Jesus says, "There is **NOTHING FROM **WITHOUT**IN UNWASHED HANDS OF A MAN THAT ENTERING INTO HIM BY DIRT ON FOOD CAN DEFILE HIM. But the things which come out of a man, these are they that defile a man.... And He said unto them, Are you so without understanding THAT WITHOUT IN UNWASHED HANDS ENTERETH INTO THE MAN AND DIRT ON FOOD CAN NOT DEFILE HIM**because it entereth not into his heart, but **INTO HIS BELLY**AND GOETH OUT INTO HIS DRAUGHT** purging all dirty hands in eating meats." And He said, "That which cometh out of a man, that defileth a man!" For within out of the heart of man, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, blasphemy, pride, All these evil things come from within, and defile a man!"

The KJV version also implies making all foods clean even when eaten with dirty hands by the above statements by Jesus: "NOTHING FROM WITHOUT IN UNWASHED HANDS OF A MAN THAT ENTERING INTO HIM BY DIRT ON FOOD CAN DEFILE HIM** **IT GOETH INTO HIS BELLY AND GOETH OUT INTO HIS DRAUGHT** is obviously referring to said by Pharisees as **DIRTY FOOD** Good Bible translations only insert { } words that are completely obvious from the texts, and is justly included to help us see the context of the subject that the Messiah was saying "all foods eaten with dirty hands are still clean foods" in all good Protestant translations!

So no the New Testament Covenant for all the nations of the word is NOT any different from YHWH's Old Testament Laws for Israel because the Messiah is not stating a change in OT Dietary Laws but confirming that the Pharisees were making their LEGALISTIC TRADITIONAL laws, man made, about washing of cups, containers and the washing of hands that came into contact with food! NONE of the gospels are saying ANYTHING of a change to the sanctified perfect DIETARY LAWS that YHWH gave for Moses to write in LEVITICUS 11:1-47 AND DEUTERONOMY 14:3-21! The DIETARY LAWS given to Moses are NOT the subject nor even mentioned by the Messiah, for He is just calling out the Pharisees and their man made TRADITIONS! Make sense now?

THIS COMMAND BY THE MESSIAH **IMMEDIATELY** ELIMINATED ALL FOODS THAT WERE EATEN WITH DIRTY HANDS AND FORBIDDEN BY THE PHARISEES AS SUCH, TO BE NOW CLEAN AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH OLD TESTAMENT LAWS IN LEVITICUS 11:1-47 AND DEUTERONOMY 14:3-21!

So Hebrews 7:18,19; Hebrews 8:6,8,9,13; Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Galatians 3:10-13,23-25 and Colossians 2:16,17 that Richard7744 keeps posting, have NOTHING to do in context to the subject study of OT Dietary Laws found in Leviticus 11:1-47 and Deuteronomy 14:3-21 that Richard7744 the confused false teacher claims are no longer valid! The Messiah is neither implying nor teaching a different Law from that of the OT because he WAS A JEW! Good grief Richard, you have some serious reasoning abilities dude and will be held accountable by your twisting of Bible verses and making out the Messiah of changing TORAH LAW that He **FAITHFULLY** kept!

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**WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW JESUS IF WE **KEEP HIS COMMANDS**!! I John 2:3
Posted : 27 May, 2020 03:55 PM

John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own, he will only speak what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from Me what he will make known to you!"



Since Jesus told the holy spirit exactly what he should inspire the 8 writers of the New Testament what to write then Jesus is the Author of every word in the New Testament Covenant. Every born from above saint will try to obey all of the approximately 400 New Covenant laws with the hope of countless **ETERNAL REWARDS** for faithful and loving service!



.Hebrews 12:1,2: Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, **FIXING OUR EYES ON JESUS**, The **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!



Revelation 22: 12;16-18: Jesus says "Look, I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.... I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**.. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. {Which includes eternal hell as per Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the Preterists} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The eternal New Jerusalem} which are described in this book.



Some of the New Covenant laws can be found in I Timothy 2:9-13: I also want women to dress modestly, with decency propriety, not with excessive braided hair gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds appropriate for women who profess to worship God. a woman should learn in quietness. I do no permit a woman**TO TEACH or to assume authority over a man, she must be quiet.



Teddyhugger agrees with the evil Pharisees that the disciples of Jesus were sinning because they were eating food with unwashed hands??? Teddy Hugger also believes in many **FAIRY TALES: Such as: **THE FLAT EARTH FAIRY TALE**, THE NO ETRERNAL HELL FAIRY TALE**, **THE SINLESS PERFECTION FAIRY TALE** JESUS NADE NO CHANGES IN OT LAWS FAIRY TALE** WE ARE STILL UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF MOST OF THE OT 613 LAWS FAIRY TALE** AND **WE ARESINNING IF WE DO NOT KEEP SOME OF THE PHARISEES MAN MADE LAWS FAIRY TALE**???



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD AND JESUS SAY**??



Mark 7:5-8: So the Pharisees {LikeTeddyHugger} and teachers of the law asked Jesus, "Why don't your disciples live according to the tradition of the elders instead of eating their food with defiled hands?" Jesus replied "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you **HYPOCRITES** As it is written, 'They worship Me in vain, their teachings are merely human rules.' You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions!



And so Jesus stated that the Pharisees were **HYPOCRITES** bacause they claimed the disciples were sinnung because they were eating wuth unwashed hands which is not part of God's Commands but is based on their own human traditions and the Pharisees had many human traditions that they tried to force on the Israelites.



Anyone with half a brain can easily see that Mark 7:18-23 below has absolutely nothing to do with unwashed hands:



Jesus says, "Are you so dull?" He asked. "Don't you see that **NOTHING THAT ENTERS A MAN FROM THE **OUTSIDE** CAN MAKE HIM **UNCLEAN**? For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." In saying this. Jesus declared **ALL FOODS "CLEAN! For what comes out of a man is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come--sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. Al these evils come from inside and make a person **UNCLEAN**!



THIS COMMAND BY JESUS **IMMEDIATELY** ELIMINATED THE MANY UNCLEAN FOODS FORBIDDEN BY OLD TESTAMENT LAWS IN LEVITICUS 11:1-47



Teddy Hugger claims that we are still under the supervision of Old Testament law??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??



WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!



Hebrews 7:18,19: The former regulation is **SET ASIDE** because it was **WEAK AND USELESS** for the law made nothing perfect, and a **BETTER HOPE** is introduced by which we draw near to God!



Galatians 2:14-16,20,21; Paul said, When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, "You are a Jew, yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it, then that you force Gentiles to follow Jewish customs? We who are Jews by birth and not 'Gentile sinners' know that a man is NOT justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified.!"



Galatians 2:20,21: The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"



Galatians 3:10-13: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law." Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." **CHRIST REDEEMED US FROM THE **CURSE** OF THE LAW** by becoming a curse for us!



Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"



Hebrews 8:8,9,13: "The time is coming." says the Lord, "when I will make a New Covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".... By calling this Covenant "NEW", He has made the first one OBSOLETE; and what is OBSOLETE and aging will soon disappear."



Hebrews 8:6: But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which He is Mediator is SUPERIOR TO THE OLD ONE, and it is founded on better promises.



Colossians 2:16,17: Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you **EAT** or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a **SABBATH** day. These are a *SHADOW* of the things that were to come, the reality, however, is found in Christ!!!

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