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Quiznos

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The Holy Spirit just revealed something to me just now.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 04:17 PM

Genesis 3 verse 8

8They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.



Look up the word 'PRESENCE', see what tense this word is in.

Then look at LORD and GOD, to see what has been hidden in this by the English translations.

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T0TH3M4X

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Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 05:09 PM

Its being used as a masculine noun from "Paniym", which is used 2109 times in the Bible.



Here are a few more examples:



With Cain:

Gen 4:5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance (paniym) fell.



With God (again):

Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence (Paniym) of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.



With Abraham:

Gen 23:12 And Abraham bowed down himself before (paniym) the people of the land.





What do you think was revealed to you?

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Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 05:12 PM

I can hardly wait.

First of all, there are lots and lots of cults, false religions, false teachers and prophets claiming the Holy Spirit reveals things to them.

Why don’t you explain exactly how the “Holy Spirit reveals things to you.

Did he appear in person to you and speak?

Or did you hear a voice from somewhere and you just assumed it was the Holy Spirit?

Did the even Holy Spirit at least identify himself like “Hi Quz, HS here again?

Or did you just hear a voice going off in you head and you said to yourself, “ah, that’s the Holy Spirit, I just know it!!

Actually Old & NewTestament people who truly heard from the Holy Spirit proved it by working some powerful sign or wonder. Obviously this set them apart from imposters who made claims they couldn’t back up. Impostors can’t do real miracles

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LittleDavid

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The Holy Spirit just revealed something to me just now.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 05:17 PM

The Holy Spirit reveals things to us only through the written word the scriptures not by unknown or unidentified voices, impressions or feelings.

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The Holy Spirit just revealed something to me just now.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 06:34 PM

The word "presence" doesn't have tense. Verbs have tense. Perhaps you are referring to the fact that panyim or penayim is plural not singular.

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Quiznos

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The Holy Spirit just revealed something to me just now.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 06:36 PM

וַיִּ שְׁ מְ עוּ 83:

u·ishmou

and·they-are-hearing

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sound-of

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Yahweh

אֱהִ ים

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Elohim

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mthelk

swalking

בַּ גָּן

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in·the·garden

לְ רוּחַ

l·ruch

to·wind-of

הַ יּ*ם

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the·day

And they heard the voice

of the LORD God walking

in the garden in the cool of

the day: and Adam and his

wife hid themselves from

the presence of the LORD

God amongst the trees of

the garden.

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and·he-is-hiding-himself

הָ אָ דָ ם

e·adm

the·human

וְ אִ שְׁ תּ*

u·ashth·u

and·woman-of·him

מִ פְּ נֵי

m·phni

from·faces-of

יְ הוָה

ieue

Yahweh

אֱהִ ים

aleim

Elohim

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in·midst-of

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tree-of

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The english word Presence in Hebrew is FACE,in the Hebrew this word is PLURAL.

Adam and Eve hid themselves from the FACES of YAHOWAH ELOHEEM.

This cannot be seen in the english translations.

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Quiznos

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Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 06:37 PM

Of course Davey being the good calvanist that he is, does not believe GOD Almighty either talks with us today, nor does He reveal anything new to us in His Word.

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Quiznos

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Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 06:42 PM

One YHWH,but a plurality within ELOHEEM.

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Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 07:29 PM

Please recheck that. I have sources that say the Hebrew word for presence only occurs in the plural, whether in reference to living things(God, humans, etc) spiritual beings, as well as non living things.

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LittleDavid

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Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 07:35 PM

WHOA!! Sounds like Quiznos’s “holy spirit” isn’t up on his verbs!

Maybe Quiznos ought to study the word of God instead of listening to strange voices from the crypt

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T0TH3M4X

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The Holy Spirit just revealed something to me just now.
Posted : 8 Apr, 2020 08:09 PM

Cannot be seen as "face" in English?



"Paniym" is translated 390 times as "face."



Here is a neutral example.



Gen 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces (paniym) were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

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