The Greek word logos means reasoning, in order to reason the invisible GOD, we must first know His SON.
Matthew 11 verses 27 - 30
27 “All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
28 “Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.
29 “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS.
Jesus is called **GOD** 7 times in God's Word and is called **LORD** over 200 times in the New Testament, and is **WORSHIPED** 12 times in the New Testament, and God's Word tells us to only **WORSHIP GOD**!!
John 1-4,18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the **WORD WAS GOD**. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was Life and that Life was the **LIGHT OF ALL MANKIND>... No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
And in Hebrews 1:1-3,6,8; Paul is inspired to write: "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word... God says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**!!" and about His Son God says, "**YOUR THRONE**, **O GOD** will last for ever and ever!!"
Revelation 3:21,22: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with **MY FATHER ON HIS THRONE**!!
Isaiah 9:6,7: For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, **MIGHTY GOD** and Prince of Peace. Of the greatness of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's **THRONE** and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and **FOREVER**. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this!
Colossians 1:15-18: The Son is the image of the invisible God. In Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created **THROUGH HIM** and **FOR HIM**!! He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the **HEAD** of the body, the church!!
Titus 2:13-14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our great **GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to glorify Himself a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!
John 10:27-30: Jesus says, "My sheep listen to My voice, I know them, and they follow Me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish, no one can snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me is **GREATER THAN ALL**; no one can snatch them out of My Father's hand. I and My Father are **ONE**!"
John 20:27-29: Jesus said to Thomas, "Put your finger her, see My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas said to Jesus, "**MY LORD** and **MY GOD**!: Then Jesus told him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet believed!"
Philippians 2:5-11: Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus. Who being in very nature **GOD**, did not consider **Equality with God something to be grasped... He humbled Himself--even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him a name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that**JESUS IS LORD**, to the glory of God the father!!
Colossians 2:9,10: For in Christ **ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE DEITY LIVES** in bodily form, and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the **HEAD**over every power and authority!!
I John 5:20: We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know Him {The *FATHER*} who is true. and we are in Him who is true by being in **HIS SON** Jesus Christ. He is **TRUE GOD** and eternal life!!
**IS THE AMAZING DREADED CORONAVIRUS ONE OF THE THINGS MENTIONED IN GOD'S WORD THAT WILL TAKE PLACE JUST BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION**??
The Olivet prophecies of Jesus are found in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 tells us what will take place just before the Great Tribulation, what will take place during the 1260-day Great Tribulation and the second Coming of Jesus on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation. And then Matthew 25:31-46 tells about the judgment of the saved and lost just after the 2nd Coming of Jesus.
Matthew 24:4-8, Mark 13:5-8: and Luke 21:10,11 tells what will take place just before the Great tribulation, and in Luke 21:11 Jesus prophesied, "There will be great earthquakes, **FAMINES** and **PESTILENCES** in various places!"
The worst infectious epidemic in history was the Spanish Flu epidemic from January 1918 to December 1920 which infected over 400 million people and killed over 40 million people!
Dictionary definition of **PESTILENCE**: A **CONTAGIOUS OR INFECTIOUS EPIDEMIC DISEASE** that is virulent and **DEVASTATING**!!!
****WHICH IS A PERFECT DEFINTION OF THE ****CORONAVIRUS**An epidemic which could potentially turn into a horrifying global pandemic that kills millions of people!
However none of the plagues related to the End Times will hurt any of God's saints as shown by Revelation 9:4,20,21; 11:5; 16:2,5,6,7,9,11,21. God's wrath is mentioned 11 times in Revelation and every time God's wrath only hurt the unsaved.
The U.N. says years of war, poverty and drought have left more than 20 million people facing **FAMINE**. In search of relief, the hungry walk for miles, but without enough food to go around, vast stretches of Africa and the Middle East are now on the brink of **FAMINE**.
“We stand at a critical point in history,” says U.N. humanitarian chief Stephen O’Brien. “Already at the beginning of the year, we are facing the largest humanitarian crisis since the creation of the United Nations.” On Friday, O’Brien warned world leaders that without a relief effort, millions could die -- further destabilizing the region.
The **CORONAVIRUS** will also greatly decrease food production which will greatly increase **FAMINE** throughout the world.
CORONAVIRUS and **FAMINE** will cause many catastrophies and chaos throught the world which will also caise many wars esprecially in the Middle East.
The world will be looking for a Savior and 666 and his False Prophet wiill fulfill the world's needs with many miracles..
Another amazing reason that the Great tribulation may be very close is that **POPE FRANCIS COMPLETELY QUALIFIES TO BE THE FUTURE FALSE PROPHET OF **666**
"Richard, Why do you post about love, when all you show is contempt for everyone here by calling people satan, satanic, followers of satan and you call their beliefs of the devil."??
Quiznos: I only call people Satanic who do not believe Jesus is God and do not believe all of the New Testament is the inspired Word of God!
2 Corinthians 11:13-15: Fore such people are false prophets, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising then if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness, Their end will be what their actions desire!
Jesus is called **GOD** 7 times in God's Word and is called **LORD** over 200 times in the New Testament, and is **WORSHIPED** 12 times in the New Testament, and God's Word tells us to only **WORSHIP GOD**!!
John 1-4,18: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the **WORD WAS GOD**. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was Life and that Life was the **LIGHT OF ALL MANKIND>... No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
Isaiah 9:6,7: For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, **MIGHTY GOD** and Prince of Peace. Of the greatness of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's **THRONE** and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and **FOREVER**. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this!
Titus 2:13-14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our great **GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to glorify Himself a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!
2 Timothy 3:16,17; 4:1-3: **ALL SCRIPTURE** is **GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of Godmy be **THOROUGH:Y EQUIPPED** for every good work. In the presence of God and of hrist Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of **HIS APPEARING** and **HIS KINGDOM. I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD** Be prepared in season and out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great presence and careful instruction. For the time will come when people {Like *QUIZNOS*} will not put up with sound doctrine.
Seems prophetic needs to clean up his own false teaching before he attacks dizzy quizzy.
Prophetic the Pinocchio prophetic thinks Jesus is not equal to God. But it gets worse, false teacher Richard the Pinocchio prophetic with 7744 Pinocchio awards thinks the Holy Spirit is never referred to in scripture as God.
AND we’re just getting started on the Pinocchio prophetic’s false teachings
**IS THE AMAZING DREADED CORONAVIRUS ONE OF THE THINGS MENTIONED IN GOD'S WORD THAT WILL TAKE PLACE JUST BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION**??
The Olivet prophecies of Jesus are found in Matthew 24 and 25, Mark 13 and Luke 21. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 tells us what will take place just before the Great Tribulation, what will take place during the 1260-day Great Tribulation and the second Coming of Jesus on the Last Day of the Great Tribulation. And then Matthew 25:31-46 tells about the judgment of the saved and lost just after the 2nd Coming of Jesus.
Matthew 24:4-8, Mark 13:5-8: and Luke 21:10,11 tells what will take place just before the Great tribulation, and in Luke 21:11 Jesus prophesied, "There will be great earthquakes, **FAMINES** and **PESTILENCES** in various places!"
The worst infectious epidemic in history was the Spanish Flu epidemic from January 1918 to December 1920 which infected over 400 million people and killed over 40 million people!
Dictionary definition of **PESTILENCE**: A **CONTAGIOUS OR INFECTIOUS EPIDEMIC DISEASE** that is virulent and **DEVASTATING**!!!
****WHICH IS A PERFECT DEFINTION OF THE ****CORONAVIRUS**An epidemic which could potentially turn into a horrifying global pandemic that kills millions of people!
However none of the plagues related to the End Times will hurt any of God's saints as shown by Revelation 9:4,20,21; 11:5; 16:2,5,6,7,9,11,21. God's wrath is mentioned 11 times in Revelation and every time God's wrath only hurt the unsaved.
The U.N. says years of war, poverty and drought have left more than 20 million people facing **FAMINE**. In search of relief, the hungry walk for miles, but without enough food to go around, vast stretches of Africa and the Middle East are now on the brink of **FAMINE**.
“We stand at a critical point in history,” says U.N. humanitarian chief Stephen O’Brien. “Already at the beginning of the year, we are facing the largest humanitarian crisis since the creation of the United Nations.” On Friday, O’Brien warned world leaders that without a relief effort, millions could die -- further destabilizing the region.
The **CORONAVIRUS** will also greatly decrease food production which will greatly increase **FAMINE** throughout the world.
CORONAVIRUS and **FAMINE** will cause many catastrophies and chaos throught the world which will also caise many wars esprecially in the Middle East.
The world will be looking for a Savior and 666 and his False Prophet wiill fulfill the world's needs with many miracles..
Another amazing reason that the Great tribulation may be very close is that **POPE FRANCIS COMPLETELY QUALIFIES TO BE THE FUTURE FALSE PROPHET OF **666**
THE AMAZING DREADED FORUMVIRUS RICHARD IS MANY TIMES MENTIONED IN EVERY THREAD THAT WILL TAKE PLACE JUST BEFORE THE GREAT JUDGMENT DAY FOR HIS FALSE TEACHINGS**!!!
It is obvious that this is a **FORUMWIDE** plague and is a message **FROM SATAN**!! Another amazing reason that the Great judgment day may be very close is that **POPE RICHARD COMPLETELY QUALIFIES TO BE THE PRESENT FALSE PROPHET OF **7744**
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technically true the opposite is also true. That is, if Logos was intended to be a proper
noun, that is understood as a name or title of a Person (as the clause “and Logos was
God” absolutely requires since “God” is a personal noun), then the masculine personal
pronouns should properly be understood in English as “He / Him / His.” Therefore, the
Unitarian argument regarding how to translate the pronouns is a logical fallacy, a red
herring.
To settle this issue further, we need only consider verses 10-12.
John 1:10-12
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not
know Him.
11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to
those who believe in His name:
There can be no doubt that all of the underlined pronouns refer to the same antecedent.
Secondly, the same entity called “Logos” in verses 1-3 must be the referent. This is
necessary because what was attributed to Logos in verse 3 (the co-creation of all things)
is here attributed to the one referred to by the masculine personal pronouns (He / Him /
His). The clause ὁ κόσμος δι᾽ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο (the world was made through Him – vs. 10)
uses the third person masculine pronoun αὐτοῦ. John wrote in verse 3 “All things were
made through Him (Logos), and without Him nothing was made that was made.” The word
“through” in both passages is the preposition διὰ (dia) in Greek. When this preposition
takes an object in the gentive case it points to something accomplished through
employing another as an agent.22
Therefore, since nothing was made without employing “Logos” as God’s personal agent
(vs. 3), and since verse 10 says that the world was made through (διὰ) “Him,” the
masculine personal pronoun αὐτοῦ (Him) in verse 10 must refer to Logos since He is
the one previously said to be the agent of creation in verse 3.
Notice that the masculine personal pronouns (and third person verbs) continue to refer
to the same antecedent all the way through verses 10-12. If we were to replace the
pronouns that absolutely refer back to Logos with the name “Logos,” here is how the
text would read.
22 Wallace, p. 368
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John 1:10-12
10 Logos was in the world, and the world was made through Logos [see vs. 3], and the
world did not know Logos.
11 Logos came to Logos’ own [things – neuter], and Logos’ own [people – masculine]
did not receive Logos.
12 But as many as received Logos, to them Logos gave the right to become children of
God, to those who believe in the name of Logos.
Now, consider the difficulties that emerge if we take the personal pronouns to refer to
God’s master “Plan,” an abstract thing, as in Mr. Buzzard’s Unitarianism.
John 1:10-12
10 The Plan was in the world, and the world was made through the Plan, and the world
did not know the Plan.
11 The Plan came to the Plan’s own (things – neuter), and the Plan’s own (people –
masculine) did not receive the Plan.
12 But as many as received the Plan, to them the Plan gave the right to become children
of God, to those who believe in the Plan’s name:
So if Mr. Buzzard is correct, then people can only be saved by believing in the name of
the “Plan.” Yet this is absurd for the following reasons: The term ἴδια (“own {things}”)
indicates the things that are owned by Mr. Buzzard’s alleged “Plan.” But can an abstract
thing own anything? His “own things” refers to what was created through and
promised to the “only-begotten Son.” An abstract “plan” cannot have ownership of
anything. Only actual persons can have ownership. “He came to His own things” is the
correct translation. Likewise, οἱ ἴδιοι αὐτὸν (His “own people” {lit. “the own people of
Himself”}) indicates a people that were His by ownership. This clearly refers to Psalm 2,
“the nations as Your inheritance,” of the Son! How can a “plan” own anything, nevermind own a class of people? Finally, the children of God are said to be those who
“believe in the Plan’s name!” What name would that be? Here is John’s own answer:
“He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called Logos of God.”23
“Logos” is clearly a personal name or title for Jesus Christ by John’s own statement!
In an attempt to sidestep the obvious and essential connection of the masculine
personal pronouns in verses 10-12 to “Logos” in verse 1, Anthony Buzzard offered his
own translation which blatantly alters the text of John’s Gospel by creating a NEW
antecedent for the masculine personal pronouns – the “Light himself.” Here is his
translation of verses 6-10.
23 Rev. 19:13
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“6 There came on the scene of history a man commissioned by God. His name was John. 7
This man came as a witness [a preacher of the Gospel of the Kingdom, Matt. 3:2] so that
he might bear witness to the light and that everyone might believe through him. 8 He was
not the Light himself, but he witnessed concerning the light. 9 This was the genuine
light which enlightens every man coming into the world. 10 He was in the world and the
world came into existence through him, and the world did not recognize him. 11 He came
to his own land and his own people did not accept him. 12 As many, however, as did
accept him, to these he gave the right to become children of God — namely the ones
believing in his Gospel revelation, his religion.”
24
Mr. Buzzard has taken a non-personal, neuter noun (“light”) and turned it into a Person
– Jesus. Notice that he capitalized “Light” in the underlined clause above, making it a
proper noun (a name of a person), but did not capitalize “light” the other three times it
appears in verses 7-9. This shows that he understood these other three occurrences to
refer to “light” as something other than a person. John consistently used “light” as a
metaphor for the revelation of the knowledge of God brought into the world by His
Son. And this meaning can be found right in this very passage. John wrote in vs. 3 that
life was in Logos, and this life within Logos was “the light of men.” Thus “light” was within
Christ, not “Light” as a proper name for Him. Notice also Jesus’ own words in John
3:19: “And this is the condemnation, that light has come into the world, and men loved darkness
rather than light, because their deeds were evil.” It is quite clear that John consistently used
“light” as a metaphor for the revealed knowledge of God, and never as a proper name.25
It is nowhere capitalized (as a proper name) anywhere in the common English
translations. Mr. Buzzard’s intent was to introduce the human Jesus into the text in
verse 8 in order to create a antecedent other than Logos for the masculine pronouns in
verses 10-12. So he accomplished this by capitalizing “Light” once and adding the
masculine personal pronoun, “himself.” But he did not capitalize the other three
occurrences of “light” because he was well aware that the word “light” in Greek is a
neuter noun, not a masculine one. Therefore, the masculine personal pronouns in vss.
10-12 (He, Him) cannot refer to “light” which is neuter since in Greek the pronouns
must agree in gender and number with their antecedent or referent. Only by altering
what the Greek says and introducing a different antecedent for the personal pronouns
(He, Him) in vss. 10-12 could Mr. Buzzard disguise his sleight-of-hand for the English
24 Anthony Buzzard’s translation of John’s Gospel: http://www.focusonthekingdom.org/John.htm
25 John 8:12 does not use “light” as a proper name for Jesus, but rather as a metaphor that is also applied
to His disciples (Matt. 5:14). There are many such metaphors in John’s Gospel, such as “I am the bread of
life” (John 6:35,48); “I am the door of the sheep” (John 10:7); “I am the resurrection and the life” (John
11:25); “I am the way, the truth and the life” (John 14:6); “I am the true vine” (John 15:1); none of which
are proper names, but all are metaphors.
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reader. But this does nothing to disguise the absurdity of this understanding of the
Greek text.
The creation is attributed to “Logos” (vs. 3) as God’s agent, and also to Mr. Buzzard’s
“the Light Himself” (whom he attempts to introduce as the human Jesus) as God’s agent
in verse 10, using identical language!
Verse 3: All things δι᾽ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο (through Him originated)
Verse 10: The world δι᾽ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο (through Him originated)
Thus, the same person in verse 1 is also identified in verses 10-12 by His part in
creation! Mr. Buzzard’s translation implies that “Him” in verse 3 is not the same “Him”
in verse 10, yet the language is identical, and the personal pronouns demand it! And
how could the world originate through a mere Man Jesus if He is not the same one
present at creation?
Mr. Buzzard has manipulated John’s Gospel in a way that might be acceptable English
grammar, but rides roughshod over the rules of Greek grammar. By capitalizing the
word “Light” and adding the masculine pronoun “Himself,” Mr. Buzzard has made
“Light” a proper name of a person (the human Jesus). By then adding “Himself” (a
masculine term) he provided the means to make the masculine personal pronouns that
follow (He, Him, His) refer to his fabricated new antecedent so that these personal
pronouns need not point back to Logos. Instead they now all point back to “the Light
Himself” inserted by Mr. Buzzard. It is one thing for an interpreter of the Scriptures to
insert his preconceived ideas into his explanation of the text. It is quite another thing for
him to alter the text significantly in order to make it appear that his interpretation is
actually what the Apostle wrote. This kind of manipulation ought to make one quake in
fear of the judgment expressed for this very activity in John’s Revelation.26
But the masculine personal pronouns cannot have the word “light” as their antecedent
in the Greek text because all third person pronouns must agree in number and gender
with their antecedent. This is because a third-person pronoun’s “gender and number are
determined by its antecedent.”27 The word “light” φωτός (photos) is neuter in gender. But
the pronouns in verses 10-12 are all masculine. Mr. Buzzard added the masculine
English word “himself” because of the huge grammatical problem that his
interpretation created with the Greek grammar. But even if John had intended to
portray “light” as a name or title for Jesus, he still would be required by Greek grammar
26 Rev. 22:18
27 Mounce, William D., Basics of Biblical Greek, p. 101
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to put the pronouns in the neuter gender unless he actually added the masculine word
“himself” after “light” in order to provide a grammatically correct antecedent for the
masculine pronouns.
Furthermore, all throughout John’s Gospel, “light” is a metaphor for God’s revelation. It
is never the proper name or title for Jesus.
28 While it is true that Jesus was the source of
“light” (God’s revelation), He was not literally the “light.” Even in this immediate
context it is clear that “light” cannot be referring to a person.
4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
“In Him” (ἐν αὐτῷ - masculine) must refer to Logos. “Light” was equated with “life,”
which was said to be “in Him” (Logos). Notice in verse 5 that the pronoun “it” is neuter
and has “light” as its antecedent. Again, the pronouns in verses 10-12 are all masculine.
Nor can we claim that “light” is a metaphor for Jesus as in “I am the light of the world.”
29
The use of metaphor does not allow for the violation of the grammar. If John was
referring to Jesus using “Light” as a proper noun, he then would have had to use all
neuter pronouns in verses 10-12 or else he would have to add the word “Himself” in the
Greek text as Mr. Buzzard has done in English.
John’s Greek-speaking readers absolutely would NOT and could NOT understand John
1 as Unitarians attempt to explain it. It is utterly impossible. The only way to
understand John’s prologue this way is to run roughshod over the grammar. Here is a
correct translation of John’s prologue.
John 1:1-18 LGV30
1 In the beginning was Logos, and Logos was with God, and Logos was God. 2 This one
was in the beginning with God. 3 Everything originated through Him, and without Him
nothing originated which has originated. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of
men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not take hold of it.
6 (A man arrived having been commissioned from God whose name was John. This one
came for a witness, so that he should testify concerning the light 7 so that all may believe
through him. 8 He was not the light, but [came] so that he should testify concerning the
light, 9 that was the true light which enlightens every man coming into the world).
10 He was in the world, and the world originated through Him, and the world did not
know Him. 11 He came into His own [things], and His own [people] did not receive Him.
28 John 3:19-21
29 John 8:12
30 www.4windsfellowships.net/LGV/LGV_John.pdf
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12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to
those believing unto the name of Him 13 who was Begotten, not out of bloods, nor out of
the will of the flesh, nor out of the will of a man, but out of God. 14 And Logos became
flesh, and sojourned among us, and we gazed upon His glory, glory as of the OnlyBegotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
15 (John testifies concerning Him, and has exclaimed, saying, “This was the one whom I
said, ‘The one coming after me has originated before me,’ because He used to be before
me”).
16 And out of the fullness of Him we have received, and grace for grace 17 (because the
Law was given through Moses; [but] grace and truth originated through Jesus the
Anointed). 18 No one has seen God at any time. The Only-Begotten Son, the one being
unto the Father’s bosom, that one declared Him.
John the Baptist’s Testimony to Jesus’ Origin before John was Born
In writing his Gospel, John often called witnesses to confirm the points he intended to
make, especially quoting John the Baptist and Jesus Himself. In verse 15, John quoted
John the Baptist in order to support his point about the preexistence of the Son as
“Logos,” the agent of creation who “became flesh” as “the Only-begotten of the
Father.”31
John the Baptist said that Jesus “has originated before me,” and that Jesus “used
to be before me.” Yet the synoptic Gospels record that John the Baptist’s mother was in
her sixth month when Mary conceived.32 Thus, John was six months older than Jesus in
reference to human existence.
Let’s compare the LGV with Mr. Buzzard’s translation of John the Baptist’s words.
Buzzard: ‘The one coming after me has now moved ahead of me, because he always was
my superior.’”33
Warner: ‘The one coming after me has originated before me,’ because He used to be [exist]
before me.”
The clause which I have translated “has originated before me” is ἔμπροσθέν μου
γέγονεν. The verb γέγονεν means “became,” having two possible nuances:
1. Something that came into existence for the first time, originated, as in vs. 3, “all
things originated through Him.”
2. A transition from one thing to another, as in vs. 14 “Logos became flesh.”
31 Vs. 14
32 Luke 1:26,36
33 http://www.focusonthekingdom.org/John.htm
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I have used the first possibility, but Mr. Buzzard has chosen the second possibility.
Regarding the word ἔμπροσθέν which I translated “before” but Mr. Buzzard translated
“ahead of,” either rendering is correct. However, notice John the Baptist’s further
explanation using the same word: “I said, ‘I am not the Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent before
[ἔμπροσθεν] Him.’”34 That John did not mean “ahead of” in place or priority but rather
in sequence is absolutely clear otherwise this statement would indicate that John
originally ranked higher (ahead of) Jesus. Clearly, John’s meaning was that he preceded
Jesus in sequence as a forerunner to prepare the way before He arrived as prophesied
by Malachi.
35 This was John’s further explanation about what he said in John 1:15.
Therefore, ἔμπροσθέν must refer to “ahead of” or “before” in sequence, not in priority
or rank.
The reason that most English translations render this clause differently than I have is
because the translators were Trinitarians who do not believe that the Son of God had
ANY “origin” in time. They also realized that John was older than Jesus. Therefore,
translating this clause as referring to sequence would severely damage their Trinitarian
presuppositions that Logos had no beginning or origin. So they were forced to take
γέγονεν as “became” in the sense of transition rather than “originated.” However,
when this bias is removed, the text reads very naturally as I have translated it with
The last clause in verse 15 is πρῶτός μου ἦν “He used to be before me.” Mr. Buzzard has
translated it “he always was my superior.” Yet in doing so, he has violated the grammar
once again. The verb ἦν is the verb of being in the imperfect tense. The imperfect
implies a situation in the past that used to exist over a period of time. It does not imply
that the past situation was still current. Once again, Mr. Buzzard puts his own words in
John’s mouth in order to change the meaning of what he actually wrote. Mr. Buzzard
added the word “always” in order to lessen the problem for himself, making it appear
that the situation described was timeless (contrary to the sense of the imperfect tense).
He then takes πρῶτός to mean “superior” instead of “before” in sequence. Granted,
“superior” is a possible interpretation. But the careful reader should notice that Mr.
Buzzard’s translation creates a train wreck concerning the tenses of the two relevant
verbs. If John the Baptist was saying that Jesus “has now moved” (perfect tense) into the
superior position, how then can he say that He “always was” (imperfect tense) in the
superior position? These two verb tenses are virtually opposite in force. The perfect
tense refers to a present condition that is the result of a past action. But the imperfect
tense implies a past situation that no longer exists! Thus, in Mr. Buzzard’s translation
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these two verbs collide with each other and turn John’s words into something
unintelligible. Jesus could not “move ahead” (become superior in rank) in relation to
John if He was “always” John’s “superior,” or more correctly, if He “used to be” John’s
“superior.” Mr. Buzzard’s translation which attempts deny the preexistence of Christ
cannot be sustained in the Greek text of John’s prologue.
On the other hand, when we remove the Trinitarian bias against the Logos having an
“origin” in time, and when we then translate this verse consistent with John’s usage of
terminology, the LGV translation is perfectly accurate and natural. It is hard to escape
the fact that John included the testimony of John the Baptist in order to support his
thesis in this prologue, that Logos is Jesus and that He originated before John the
Baptist, because He was “in the beginning with God.” John simply called John the Baptist
as a witness to this critical fact.
Finally, consider verse 18 which declares that no man has ever seen God. The words “at
any time” cannot be limited to after the incarnation (as Unitarians try to limit them), but
must go back to “in the beginning.” Consequently, John’s declaration that “the onlybegotten Son” is the one who has made God known is set in juxtaposition to his
preceding statement, that no one has seen God at any time (from the beginning).
Consequently, the Son is the one who has made God known “at any time” (thus all time)
which requires that we extend this all the way back to “in the beginning.” The Son, the
“only-begotten of the Father,”36 who is “the first-produced of all creation,”
37 and “who is The
Beginning,”
38 and “The Beginning of the creation of God,”39 is Logos who was “in the
beginning with God” through whom all things were created.40 We have therefore proven
conclusively the following points:
1. Logos was indeed a second Person whom David acknowledged as “God.”
2. John tells us that Logos was a name or title for Jesus (Rev. 19:13)
3. The one in whose name we trust, who gives us the right to be called children
of God, can grammatically only refer to the person called “Logos” in this context.
4. John the Baptist claimed that Jesus originated before him.
5. No one has ever seen the Father. The Son has been His personal agent from
“the beginning.” Thus, all who are said to have seen God in the Old Testament
