We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God
Posted : 8 Mar, 2020 07:06 PM
Many false prophets like Joyce Meyer and Benny Hinn teach that believing in Jesus is just accepting him as your Savior and you do not have to believe all the commands of Jesus. All the Satanic preachers give the same invitation, Accept Jesus as your Savior and all your past and future sins are forgiven and you have a sure ticket to heaven even if you fall away or continue in your same worldly life. I went down this sawdust trail 2 times and quickly fell away to lead a selfish worldly way of life.
I Corinthians 6:9-11: Do not be deceived, Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor **DRUNKARDS** now slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed {With God's Word}, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!
I John 2:15-17: Do not love the world . If anyone loves the world, love for the father is not in them. For everything in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--comes not from the Father but from the world. For the world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever!
John 13:34: Jesus says, "A NEW command I give you: **LOVE* one another As I have **LOVED** you, so you must **LOVE** one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples." John 15:12,13: Jesus says, "My command is this: **LOVE** each other as I have **LOVED** you. Greater **LOVE** has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
I John 3:16: This how we know what **LOVE** is: Jesus Christ laid down His life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers!
John 14:21,23: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who **LOVES** Me! He who loves Me will be **LOVED** by My Father, and I will **LOVE** him....If anyone **LOVES** Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will **LOVE** him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him!!"
I John 2:1-6: Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins... We know that we have come to know Him **IF** we keep His commands. Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a **LIAR** and truth is not in that person. But if anyone**OBEYS HIS WORD**,love for God is \truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!!
Matthew 13:23: Jesus says, "But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the **WORD AND UNDERSTANDS IT**. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown."
Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."
Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** will overcome them because His is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers! {Riding on heavenly white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb as per Revelation 19:7-21}
We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God
Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 08:38 AM
Wow! So prophetic7744 posts this everywhere on the forum when he first posted it to me in another thread accusing me! But I say....
Prophetic7744.... Woah woah! Where did I say I was drinking alcohol dude??? My friends and I drink lots of coffee and pop and for me I get this kind of hangover from all the partying and fellowship, ok? Some of us buds are semi retired while others are retired, we like to go out to Colorado and have a wonderful time to PARTY in love and fellowship. Got it now? We always abide by the laws of the land where ever we go and do! Why all the judgment in assuming I was living 'sinful pleasures' or "recovering from a drunken binge" from alcohol??? Im no "**DRUNKARD**" as you imply and judge! Do you think I would be like "christians" today that drink alcohol, or like the ones drunk I noticed doing so when I was growing up? Really!
What's up with attempting to apply 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 to me? I'm neither a "thief, nor greedy, slanderer nor swindler etc! Im washed by His blood and sanctified, justified in the name of the Lord Jesus in verse 11! Ok? I was "saved" when I was young and went forward in church in tears, felt dirty and accepted the FREE gift of salvation and NOW Im clean! I was told all my past and
future "sins" were forgiven because I came forward in church and to this day I don't even know what those "sins" are! Jesus will NEVER forsake me or leave me because I'm saved!
I think everyone knows about false teachers like Joyce Meyer and Benny Hinn as well as others that are fake, dude! How they teach you can do major bad things and still go to heaven. So tell me, do you think a BELIEVER is no longer a believer when they commit a little wrong and then supposedly lose their salvation? Really? You seem to imply that if a initial BELIEVER "falls away" or goes back to the "same worldly life" as you call it, they will lose their salvation? Really? Have Scripture for that teaching? So what are these "commands of Jesus" you state are what it is all about and where are they found in the Bible? Are they different from what Paul wrote about in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 you posted? I want to know about these "rules" or "laws" to know if I have kept them or need too, ok?
I want to follow Jesus and keep the "commands" he kept, ok? So can you finally show me where they are found in the Bible???
We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God
Posted : 9 Mar, 2020 12:17 PM
Parehtban: Sorry, when you said you were recovering from to much partying I wrongly assumed that alcohol and not Coffeel was the main culprit. I have never claimed that some one born from above can lose their salvation. I believe those who fall away were never saved in the first place even though they were promised heaven by false prophets if they accepted Jesus as their Savior'
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!
Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!}
John 14:21,23: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who **LOVES** Me! He who loves Me will be **LOVED** by My Father, and I will **LOVE** him....If anyone **LOVES** Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will **LOVE** him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him!!"
I John 2:1-6: Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins... We know that we have come to know Him **IF** we keep His commands. Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a **LIAR** and truth is not in that person. But if anyone**OBEYS HIS WORD**,love for God is \truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!!
Matthew 13:23: Jesus says, "But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the **WORD AND UNDERSTANDS IT**. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown."
