Author	Thread: YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect.
Quiznos View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 03:56 PM 1 John 2 verses 1-2 1 My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 04:56 PM Who so ever will, let him come . (To Jesus) It's our choice heaven or not. Post Reply
Quiznos View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 05:30 PM John 3 verses 15 - 18 14“As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life. 16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17“For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. 18“He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Yes, salvation is open to whoever will believe,BUT not all will believe. As Messiah is the Atoning sacrifice for all of the sin of all of mankind, yet only those that BELIEVE will not be condemned, verses 16,18. In the Old Covenant, those believing the promise of YHWH to send His Meschiach- Messiah,the atoning work of Messiah belongs to them as well. Post Reply
View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 06:44 PM SALVATION IS 100% FREE WHILE ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED**!! **SALVATION IS 100% FREE** Titus 3:3,4: At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But when the kindness and **LOVE** of God our Savior appeared , He saved us, **NOT BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUS THINGS WE HAD DONE**, but because of **HIS MERCY**!! John 1:12,13: To all who received Him, to those who believed in His name, he gave the right to become children of God--children born not of natural descent, **NOR OF A HUMAN DECISION** or a husband's will but, **BORN OF GOD**!! John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!" Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**—and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**—not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do! Romans 12:3: For by the **GRACE GIVEN ME** I say to every one of you. Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourselves with sober judgment, in accordance with the **FAITH GOD HAS DISTRIBUTED TO EACH OF YOU**... We have different gifts, according to the **GRACE GIVEN TO EACH OF US**!! Romans 9:15,16,18: God says, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy...Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy, and He hardens whom He wants to harden. {But God's saints still preach God's Word to everyone} John 15:16: Jesus says, You did not choose Me, but I **CHOSE YOU**and appointed you so that you might bear **FRUIT**--**FRUIT** that will last!! Matthew 22:14: Jesus says, "MANY ARE INVITED**, but few are **CHOSEN**!" Mar 13:20: Jesus says, "If the Lord had not cut short those days, no on would survive, but for the sake of the **ELECT**, whom He has **CHOSEN, He has shortened them!" {The Lord has shortened the Great Tribulation from 3 1/2 years or 1278 days to 1260 days} John 13:18: Jesus says, "I am not referring to all of you, I know those I have **CHOSEN**! Ephesians 1:4-8; 11,12: In love He **PREDESTINED** us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with His pleasure and will--to the praise of His glorious grace, which He has freely given us in the One He loves, In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding... In Him we were also **CHOSEN**, having been **PREDESTINED** in accordance to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity to the purpose of His will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be to the **PRAISE OF HIS GLORY**!! I Thessalonians 1:4: For we know, brothers loved by God, that He has **CHOSEN YOU**, because our Gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction! I Peter 2:9: But you are a **CHOSEN PEOPLE**, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you might declare the praise of Him who **CALLED YOU** out of darkness into His wonderful light!! Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!! {Riding on white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the **LAMB** as per Revelation 19:7-20!} Romans 6:23: The wages of sin is death, but the **GIFT OF GOD** is **ETERNAL LIFE**! God's Word clearly teaches that faith, salvation, the Holy Spirit and eternal life are all 100 percent **FREE GIFTS OF GOD** and that the two main incentives for doing good works is being thankful to God for these amazing **FREE GIFTS** and to **EARN HEAVENLY ETERNAL REWARDS** which God has promised His chosen saints for faithful and loving service. Whereas those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** believe that we have to earn our salvation and eternal life by doing **GOOD WORKS** and being **SINLESS** and that the only eternal reward is gaining eternal life by what we do; and if we commit even one small sin after we are saved we will loose our salvation and eternal life. And so man and not God becomes the Author and Finisher of our salvation. **AND SO SALVATION IS 100 PERCENT **FREE** but **ETERNAL REWARDS** are 100 percent **EARNED**!! Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does! Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, “Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!” Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, “The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!” Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!" Luke 14:13,14: Jesus says, "When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will be **BLESSED**. Although they cannot repay you you will be **REPAID AT THE RESURRECTION** of the righteous!" 2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. 1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames. How to Win Heavenly CROWNS: I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize! 2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!. Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, “I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN**!” 2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN** of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me **ON THAT DAY**—and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing! The **CROWN** of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution: James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE** that God has promised to those who love Him! Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, “Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE**!” Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!” Luke6:22,23: Jesus says, "Blessed are you when people hate you, when they reject your name as evil, because of the Son of Man. Rejoice in that day and **JUMP FOR JOY**, because great is your **REWARD IN HEAVEN**!" ! Daniel 12:3: Those who impart wisdom will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness like the stars for ever and ever!! Matthew 19:29: Jesus says, "Everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children **FOR MY SAKE** will receive a **HUNDRED TIMES AS MUCH** and will inherit eternal life!!" Hebrews 11:1,6: Now **FAITH** is confidence in **WHAT WE HOPE FOR** and assurance about **WHAT WE DO NOT SEE**... And without **FAITH** it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that he **REWARDS THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM!! Post Reply
View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 5 Mar, 2020 07:36 PM I have not been on this forum for awhile but I see it has calmed down considerably, without all the name calling and off topic posts mostly. It was BUTS and all I was here for was to poke fun at the idiots arguing! Maybe now I can be a little more serious, get some answers? Lets see if this thread can stay on topic and help me out. I was raised by so called "christian" parents but all they did was do all the things the world did and that was just crazy to me! Had this religion thing cramed down my throat every sunday and seen nothing but hipocrites back biting, smoking cigs, drinking and what not. So this religion thing was silly to me and laughed it off when I was finally on my own! I had questions back then I would ask answers for but never got a direct answer. This is why Im here because MAYBE I can get some answers now and this religious stuff will make sense! I have heard all my youth life that all you have to do is just "BELIEVE" and your going to heaven! Really? Then I guess everybody is? Lets start with John 3 verses 15... "so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life" 16 ... "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." I have heard this verse 16 all my youth life! So is this verse saying all I have to do is "BELIEVE" in this "begotten Son" and Im going to heaven? Then I can live my life as I please, like Im doing now, partying, having a good time, just like I noticed so many "christians" doing when I was growing up? Im serious now, this makes no sense to me, never has! I have a little bit of a hangover now but will try to get back on here as soon as I can. Post Reply
View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 6 Mar, 2020 03:14 PM Parehtban: We are only born again through the Living Word of God. So start reading the New Covenant and start with the book of John and you must be willing to forsake your many sinful pleasures and seek God with all your heart amd pray that you can understand the eternal truths in God/s Word. If you in your heart love your sinful pleasures amd believe you can still keep some of sinful pleasures after you become a Christian. you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven just as the majority of churches that now follow Satan. Unfortunately you grew up with a church that believed you can be assured of the Kingdom of Heaven if you attended church and accept Jesus as your Savior; and still live with many evil and materialistic pleasures. If you are really serious you will want to help the poor rather than you worldy pleasures. I Peter 1:23-25: For you have born again, not of perishable seed, but the imperishable, through the **LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the Word of the Lord **ENDURES FOVER**!! Hebrews 11:1,6: Now **FAITH** is confidence in **WHAT WE HOPE FOR** and assurance about **WHAT WE DO NOT SEE**!.... And without **FAITH** it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He **REWARDS THOSE WHO EARNESTLY SEEK HIM**!! Post Reply
View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 7 Mar, 2020 09:16 AM What is this "born again through the Living Word of God" you keep posting? What are these 'sinful pleasures' you accuse me of THREE times in your post? Like I asked Quiznos, where are these "laws" or "rules" you speak of found in the Bible? If you are going to judge me, then why not give me Scripture to show me my 'sinful' ways because I dont even know what that word 'sin' means and its definition! Like I told Quiznos, I was 'saved' LONG ago from my filth and dirtyness the preacher told me! Now I live the happy life because all my dirt and ugliness is gone! Im saved long ago from past, present and future "sins" they told me and I dont even know what they are??? They NEVER said in the church I grew up in that I can be assured of the 'Kingdom of Heaven' if I just attend that church! Where did you get that from my post??? I live the happy life now, don't need the hospital church thing, I'm SAVED and look to the "God" in the sky! Im for ever "saved" of all my past "sins", present "sins" and future "sins" they told me and now I follow this "Jesus" that is in heaven to live a happy life. So that is what I do! I party and have a good time, love everyone, have not hurt anyone, so I "BELIEVE" in loving everyone! You claim those are 'sinful pleasures' of mine??? You seem to pride yourself of quoting so much Scripture but are lacking in showing me the 'sinful pleasures' of mine? Why? Finally back to the BIG question you do not answer!? Where are these "rules/laws" of "sins" listed at in the Bible about my so called "sinful pleasures' you accuse me of ? Are they like found in Exodus 20:3-17? I thought I was already "saved" from my filth and dirtyness they told me long ago in church! So what's up with these 'sinful pleasures' you talk about when Im already 'saved' from all future 'sins' the preacher told me then? The title of this thread is "do you love God" and I do!!! Post Reply
View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 7 Mar, 2020 09:31 AM Ooops that is NOT to the title to this thread.....I was just responding to prophetics7744 SAME copy and paste everywhere to me it seems! Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 7 Mar, 2020 12:01 PM The scripture teaches how the Believer is to live a life in Jesus Christ. Read Ephesians 4th chapter. Just one chapter that talks about Christian walk. When we study the Bible it will tell us many things we want answers to. Just because people say they are Christian doesn't mean they are "born again". Believers try to live a life of Righteousness, with their faith in Jesus Christ alone. He died for the sins of Mankind. Post Reply
Moonlight7 View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 7 Mar, 2020 12:04 PM @Parehtban Above post is to. Also kjv , nkjv or nasb are versions of Bibles. Post Reply
View Profile History	YASHUA was the ATONING sacrifice for whose sin, the entire world, or just the elect. Posted : 7 Mar, 2020 01:52 PM Parehtban: Many false prophets like Joyce Meyer and Benny Hinn teach that believing in Jesus is just accepting him as your Savior and you do not have to believe all the commands of Jesus. All the Satanic preachers give the same invitation, Accept Jesus as your Savior and all your past and future sins are forgiven and you have a sure ticket to heaven even if you fall away or continue in your same worldly life. I went down this sawdust trail 2 times and quickly fell away to lead a selfish worldly way of life.. I assumed that you were not a born from above Christian when you stated that you were recovering from a drunken binge. I Corinthians 6:9-11: Do not be deceived, Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor **DRUNKARDS** now slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed {With God's Word}, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ! I John 2:15-17: Do not love the world . If anyone loves the world, love for the father is not in them. For everything in the world--the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life--comes not from the Father but from the world. For the world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever! John 13:34: Jesus says, "A NEW command I give you: **LOVE* one another As I have **LOVED** you, so you must **LOVE** one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples." John 15:12,13: Jesus says, "My command is this: **LOVE** each other as I have **LOVED** you. Greater **LOVE** has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. I John 3:16: This how we know what **LOVE** is: Jesus Christ laid down His life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers! John 14:21,23: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and obeys them, he is the one who **LOVES** Me! He who loves Me will be **LOVED** by My Father, and I will **LOVE** him....If anyone **LOVES** Me, he will obey My teaching. My Father will **LOVE** him, and we will come to him and make Our home with him!!" I John 2:1-6: Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins... We know that we have come to know Him **IF** we keep His commands. Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a **LIAR** and truth is not in that person. But if anyone**OBEYS HIS WORD**,love for God is \truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!!　 Matthew 13:23: Jesus says, "But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the **WORD AND UNDERSTANDS IT**. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown." Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop." Revelation 17:14: They will make war against the **LAMB** will overcome them because His is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers! {Riding on heavenly white horses right after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb as per Revelation 19:7-21} Post Reply

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