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DID MOSES USE BABYLONIAN MATERIAL ?
Posted : 28 Jan, 2020 03:55 PM

Chuckk, in one of his other posts falsely claims that Moses borrowed philosophy from the pagan Babylonians and others to make scripture.

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DID MOSES USE BABYLONIAN MATERIAL ?
Posted : 28 Jan, 2020 04:01 PM

If anyone is interested in the origin of this false theory introduced by Chuckk on the forum, I would be glad to post about it, refute it and expose the false “scholars” who first introduced it way back when.

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DID MOSES USE BABYLONIAN MATERIAL ?
Posted : 28 Jan, 2020 05:46 PM

Wow David, I must of missed that basic statement from Chuckk.



So now Chuckk attacks the writings of Moses much like Paul, claiming "Moses borrowed philosophy from the pagan Babylonians and others to make scripture."



Just has to ATTEMPT to prove the Bible has error! Right? So we can go by our "self spirits" with in??? Have you ever in your life met anyone that says that ALL Bible books are NOT inspired???



Are we really having this conversation??? Pinch me, I think I'm having a bad dream!

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DID MOSES USE BABYLONIAN MATERIAL ?
Posted : 29 Jan, 2020 05:51 AM

psuedopigeagraphy? ironically the first five chapter are the same as the first five books of Holy Bible yet modern preachers will tell You the pseudopigeagraphy is all lies?

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DID MOSES USE BABYLONIAN MATERIAL ?
Posted : 29 Jan, 2020 06:44 AM

When you are truly born from above you will love and read God's Word daily. While Satan's followers like Quiznos and Chuckles hate God's Word.



There are some like Chuckles and Quiznos who claim that God has allowed His Word to be **CORRUPTED**??? so we have to wait for God to whisper in our ears???



**WE ARE BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD** 1 Peter 1:23



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with em.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Acts 5:32: We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given **TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM**!"



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**in Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like Chuckles and Quiznos} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



Quiznos and Chuckles claim that God has allowed His Word to be corrupted so you can not believe any of God's promises or New Covenant commandments???



John 16: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”



Please note that Jesus told his disciples to obey everything I have commanded you which would be the entire New Testament. Jesus dis not say to obey everything that I now whisper in your ear. Jesus also said that it was an unpardonable sin to **ADD WORDS** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the words that I gave you in the book of Revelation as per Revelation 22:16-19 above!!



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who **DOES NOT ACCEPRT MY WORDS** {The entire New Testament}. the very **WORDS I HAVE SPOKEN** will **CONDEMN THEM** at the Last Day!"

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2020 10:52 AM

Byys writes,



"psuedopigeagraphy? ironically the first five chapter are the same as the first five books of Holy Bible yet modern preachers will tell You the pseudopigeagraphy is all lies?" end quote.



Well first of all your speaking of a pig doctrine source and every real Christian DOES NOT associate themselves with pigs, let alone eat them as the Bible says NOT to do! So you want us to believe SWINE doctrine??? Filthy PIG doctrine?



I mean you can put lipstick on a pig but its still a pig! You can even put a suit on a pig and let it run around in graphic style. Hence the original name suitopigeagraphically or your incorrect spelling "pseudopigeagraphy" and its CULT writings and lies!

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2020 11:01 AM

Byys,



Your "pseudo>>pig<<eagraphy doctrine is really just an impersonation of a dressed up pig in a suit in graphic style! Right? Its nothing more than a pack of FILTHY lies, a suito>>pig<<eagraphically doctrine then, right?



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DID MOSES USE BABYLONIAN MATERIAL ?
Posted : 29 Jan, 2020 01:19 PM

God spoke to Moses and told him to write the Ten commandments.



Anyone that does not believe that, doesn't know God.

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Posted : 29 Jan, 2020 03:47 PM

**WE SHOULD ALWAYS LET GOD'S WORD DO THE JUDGING**!!



I Corinthians 6;9-11: Do not be deceived : Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.



Matthew 5:27,28: Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, "You shall not commit adultery." But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already **COMMITTED ADULTERY** with her in his heart!"



I Timothy 2:9-14: I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. A women should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman **TO TEACH** OR ASSUME AUTHORITY OVER A MAN** she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve,. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner!



I Corinthians 11:14,15: Does not the very nature of things teach you that **IF A MAN HAS **LONG HAIR** IT IS A **DISGRACE** TO HIM**! {On his head or chin}, but that if a woman have long hair, it is her glory!



John 16:12-14: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will **GLORIFY ME** because it is **FROM ME** THAT HE WILL RECEIVE WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!



Hebrews 12:2 Let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, fixing our eyes **ON JESUS**, the **AUTHOR** and **PERFECTER** of our faith!!



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire New Testament} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”



Please note that Jesus told his disciples to obey everything I have commanded you which would be the entire New Testament. Jesus did not say to obey everything that I now whisper in your ear. Jesus also said that it was an unpardonable sin to **ADD WORDS** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the words that I gave you in the book of Revelation as per Revelation 22:16-19!



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**in Rev 14:9-11} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like Chuckles and Quiznos} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who **DOES NOT ACCEPRT MY WORDS** {The entire New Testament}. The very **WORDS I HAVE SPOKEN** will **CONDEMN THEM** at the Last Day!"



Acts26:15-18: Jesus said to Paul, "I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a **WITNESS** of what you have seen and will see of Me. I will rescue you from your people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them **TO OPEN THEIR EYES AND TURN THEM FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT**, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"



Acts 22:14,15: Ananias said to Paul. "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU TO KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and **TO HEAR WORDS FROM HIS MOUTH**. You will be **HIS WITNESS** to all people of **WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD**!!

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Posted : 31 Jan, 2020 10:10 PM

Hey, I know a little something about Moshe and the Babylonian Rabbis. It is unclear if you are making or accusing another of making a huge anachronism. I'm assuming it is because you don't know? Moshe and the Babylon described in the Bible are separated by nearly a thousand years, but the compilers of the Tanach are not.

Things repeated over years and years become unquestioned truth, until someone is brave enough to question it.

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