I just wanted to post a thread to lift up these two. I know they are the highlight of many threads filled with controversies, but to me they are both part of a community, and most importantly whether, we agree or disagree with their words, they are loved by God, and I think we should love them likewise. Speaking for myself, there are times I agree with the things they say and I appreciate that they are here and willing to put it out there what they believe. To me there is much more honor in that than hiding behind a rock.
1 Thes 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
So I just wanted to take a moment to thank these two for their contributions. Just as I appreciate the comments shared by everyone else. I love you both in Christ.
(Please no bashing) We can have at least one thread of peace .
Thanks, I can ALWAYS use prayer to the One True Most High GOD. I fear Christianity is being taken over by dangerous religious spirits. It used to be enough to accept Jesus into your heart and follow his teachings.
However, depending on who one talks to, to be a real Christian one must believe all kinds of additional doctrines and creeds. This is driving people with common sense away from Jesus and their Creator. People searching for a simple, real relationship with GOD are rejecting Christianity because of Christians!
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
**ONLY JESUS BAPTIZES WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT THOSE WHOM THE FATHER HAS BORN FROM ABOVE THROUGH THE LIVING WORD OF GOD** ** THE FATHER TOLD JESUS EXACTLY WHAT TO TEACH IN THE 3 1/2 YEARS OF HIS MINISTRY ON EARTH WHILE JESUS TOLD THE HOLY SPIRIT WHAT TO INSPIRE THE 8 WRITERS OF THE NT EXACTLTY WHAT TO WRITE IN THE 27 BOOKS OF THE NT FROM ABOUT AD 42 TO THE BOOK OF REVELATION IN AD 96**!!
Mark 1:7-8: John the Baptist said, "After me comes the One more powerful than I, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down an untie. I baptize with water but **HE WILL BAPTIZE YOU WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT**!"
John 1:32-34: Then John gave this testimony: "I saw the spirit come down from heaven as a dove and remain on Him, but the One who sent me to baptize with water told me, 'The man on whom you see the spirit come down and remain is the One who will **BAPTIZE WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT**.' I have seen and testify that this is God's Chosen One."
John 7:38-39: Jesus says, "Whoever believes in Me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow within them!" By this He meant the spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. Up to that time the spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.
Jesus would not be glorified until he died, rose from the dead and ascended to heaven. Only then would he be glorified and only then would he "**BAPTIZE WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT**. Peter's words on Pentecost support this.
John 16:12-15: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all the truth. **HE WILL NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN**, he will only speak what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is **FROM ME** that he will receive what he will make known to you. All that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said the spirit will **RECEIVE **FROM ME** WHAT HE WILL MAKE KNOWN TO YOU**!!"
**AND SO JESUS TOLD THE HOLY SPIRIT WHAT TO INSPIRE THE 8 WRITERS OF THE NEW TESTAMENT EXACTLY WHAT TO WRITE**!!
Note: Jesus Christ is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation and the holy spirit is called the **7 SPIRITS** 4 times in Revelation:
Revelation 3:1: Jesus says, "These are the words of Him who **HOLDS** the **7 SPIRITS OF GOD**!" {See John 16:12-15 above}
Revelation 4:5: In front of the {Father's} **THRONE** 7 lamps were blazing. These are the **7 SPIRITS OF GOD**.
Revelation 5:6: The **LAMB** had 7 horns and 7 eyes which are the **7 SPIRITS OF GOD** sent out into all the earth! {See John 16:12-15 above}
And so Jesus **HOLDS** the 7 spirits of God or holy spirit which **HE SENDS** out into all the earth when He **BAPTIZES WITH THE HOLY SPIRIY OR 7 SPIRITS OF GOD** all the new converts whom the Father has chosen and born from above **THROUGH THE LIVING WORD OF GOD**!!
John 6:37,39,44,65: Jesus says, "**ALL** that the Father gives Me **WILL** come to Me, and whoever comes to Me I will **NEVER** drive away... And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall **LOSE NONE** of all that He has given Me, but raise them up at the Last Day.... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father who sent Me **DRAWS HIM**, and I will raise him up at the Last Day!!... No one can come to Me **UNLESS** the Father has **ENABLED THEM**!!"
I Peter 1:23; For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, **THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD**!
The **SPIRIT** of Jesus and the **SPIRIT** of the Father also comes into all the Father has chosen **THROUGH THE WORD OF GOD**!
Ephesians 3:17-19: I pray that **CHRIST MAY DWELL IN YOUR HEARTS** through faith.
Revelation 3:19,20: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. so be earnest and repent. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door , **I WILL COME IN**!"{CHRIST'S SPIRIT}
Galatians 4:6: Because you are His sons, God sent the **SPIRIT OF HIS SON** INTO OUR HEARTS**, the Spirit who calls out "Abba, **FATHER**"!!
The Father told Jesus exactly what **TO SAY** in the 3 1/2 years Jesus was teaching God's Words while Jesus told the holy spirit what to inspire the 8 writers of the NT excactly what **TO WRITE** in the 27 books of the New Testament from about AD 42 to Revelation in AD 96.
Deuteronomy 18:17-20: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them everything I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My Name!"
John 14:23-24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and **WE**{Our **SPIRITS**} will come to them and make **OUR HOME** with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; **THEY BELONG TO THE FATHER WHO SENT ME**!"
Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY** in heaven and on earth has been given to *ME*! Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... Teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING I COMMANDED** {In all 27 books of the NT}. And surely I am with you always to the very end of the age!"
**AND ONLY JESUS AND NOT THE CHURCHES CALLS ALL THE PROPHETS AND EVANGELISTS AND PASTORS AND TEACHERS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND GOD'S WORD**
Ephesians 4:7,11-13: To each one of us grace has been given as **CHRIST APPORTIONED IT**....**CHRIST HIMSELF** gives some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God's people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built upuntil we all reach the unity in the faith and in the knowledge of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the **FULLNESS IN CHRIST**!
