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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 05:14 AM

"**PRAY CONTINUALLY**; GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS!!" {I Thess 5:17,18}



Matthew 6:5,6,9-11 Jesus commands, “When you **PRAY**, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to **PRAY** standing in the synagogues {churches} and on the street corners to be seen by men...But when you **PRAY**, go into your room, close the door and PRAY to your FATHER, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will reward you... This, then, is how you should **PRAY**: “Our Father in heaven hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.” and Luke 11:4 adds, **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us.”



Matthew 6:7,8: Jesus says, "And when you **PRAY**, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him!"



James 5:13-16: Is any one of you **IN TROUBLE**? He should **PRAY**!! Is any one of you **SICK**? He should call the elders {And only the elders!} of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the **PRAYER** offered in faith will make the sick person well, the Lord will raise him up. If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore **CONFESS YOUR SINS TO EACH OTHER** and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The **PRAYER** of a righteous man is powerful and effective!



Acts 1:14: They all joined together **CONSTANTLY IN PRAYER**!



Ephesians 6:18-19: **PRAY** in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind be alert and always keep on **PRAYING**for all the saints. **PRAY** also for me, that whenever I open my mouth, words may be given me so that I will fearlessly make known the mystery of the Gospel.



I John 1:8,9; 2:1,2: If we {believers} claim to be without sin, **WE DECEIVE OURSELVES** and the truth is not in us. If we **CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we {believers} we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar and His word has no place in our lives....If anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the **ATONING SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS**!!



Matthew 26:41: Jesus says, "Watch and **PRAY** so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing but the body is weak!"



Hebrews 4:15,16: For we do not have a High Priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have One who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet was without sin. Let us then approach the throne of grace with confidence, so that we may **RECEIVE MERCY AND FIND GRACE TO HELP US IN OUR TIME OF NEED**!!



Hebrews 12:5,6,10,11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the **LORD DISCIPLINES THOSE HE LOVES**, And He punishes everyone He accepts as a son... God disciplines us for our own good, that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it.



If we fail to daily ask forgiveness and repent of our sins God will **DISCIPLINE US** and sometimes it will be very painful. We will also **LOSE ETERNAL REWARDS** and a **CLOSE RELATIONSHIP** with God!



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.



Luke 18:1: JESUS SAYS, **ALWAYS **PRAY** AND NEVER GIVE UP**!



Jeremiah 33:3; The Lord says, "Call to Me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know!" {This would help God's saints to correctly interpret many of the mysteries in God's Word!}



Luke 11:1-4: The disciples asked Jesus, "Teach us to **PRAY**" Jesus said to His disciples, "When you **PRAY**, say: 'Father , hallowed be your name, Your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US {disciples}OUR SINS**, for we forgive everyone who sins against us'"



Here we see that Jesus tells His disciples to daily ask the Father to forgive them of their sins. God's Word states that we must be holy as God is holy as per I Peter 1:15,16; and to walk as Jesus walked as per I John 2:6. And God understands that we really don't understand how much we fall short and sin daily.



I John 2:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** live as Jesus did!!



Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect, as your **HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!"



While we read in Isaiah 55:8,9: God says, "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts!"



The closer we get to God the more we realize how much we fall short and sin daily; and realize our need to confess our sins daily to get closer to God. Take Paul, the greatest NT saint, for example:



I Timothy 1:15,16: Paul said, "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom **I AM THE WORST**. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, **THE WORST OF SINNERS**, Christ Jesus might display **HIS UNLIMITED PATIENCE** as an example for those who would believe on Him and receive eternal life.



I Timothy 5:5: The widow who is really in need and left all alone puts her hope in God and continues night and day to **PRAY** and **ASK GOD FOR HELP**!!



I Thessalonians 5:17,18: ** PRAY**CONTINUALLY**; **GIVE THANKS IN ALL** circumstances, for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.



Philemon 1:6: I **PRAY** that you may be active in sharing your faith.



Acts 6:4: We will give our attention to **PRAYER** and the ministry of the Word!



Matthew 5:44: Jesus commands, ”Love your enemies and **PRAY** for those who persecute you.”



I Thessalonians 3:10: Night and day we **PRAY** most earnestly that we may supply what is **LACKING IN YOUR FAITH**.



Ephesians 3:16-19: I **PRAY** that out of his glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I **PRAY** that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know that love which surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of the fullness of God!



2 Thessalonians 1:11,12: We **CONSTANTLY PRAY FOR YOU**, that our God may count you worthy of His calling, and that by His power He may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted by your faith. We **PRAY** this that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in you, and you in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.



John 17:15-17: Jesus prayed, “My **PRAYER** is not to take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. Sanctify them by the Truth Your Word is Truth!”



I Peter 3:12: The eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and His ears are attentive to their **PRAYER**.



Colossians 4:12: He is always wrestling in **PRAYER** for you, that you may stand firm in all the will of God, mature and fully assured.



Hebrews 4:15,16: For we do not have a High Priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have One who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet He did not sin. Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need!!



Philippians 4:6: Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by **PRAYER** and petition, with thanksgiving present your requests to God.



I John 5:14,15 This is the confidence we have in approaching God; that if we ask anything **ACCORDING TO HIS WILL** He hears us. And if we know that He hears us--whatever we ask--we know that we have what we asked of Him.



2 Corinthians 12:8,9: Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My power is made perfect in weakness!"



James 4:3: When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with the wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures!



Romans 8:26,27: The Spirit helps us in our **WEAKNESS**. We do not know what we ought to **PRAY** for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. And He who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with **GOD'S WILL**!



Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, “Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!”



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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 05:41 AM

**FIX YOUR *THOUGHTS* ON JESUS**!!



Hebrews 3:1: Therefore, holy brothers who share in the heavenly calling, **FIX YOUR THOUGHTS ON JESUS**!!



Hebrews 4:12,13: The Word of God is living and active, sharper than any double edged sword... It judges the **THOUGHTS** and attitudes of the heart. Nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight. **EVERYTHING** is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account!



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... For we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or **BAD**!



2 Corinthians 10:5: We take captive **EVERY THOUGHT** and make it obedient to Christ!!



Romans 13:14: Clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and **DO NOT THINK** about how to satisfy the desires of the sinful nature!



Matthew 22:37,38: Jesus says, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with **ALL YOUR MIND**!! This is the first and **GREATEST** commandment!!"



Colossians 3:2: Set your **MINDS ON THINGS ABOVE**, not on earthly things!



Romans 12:2: Be transformed by the **RENEWING OF YOUR MIND**. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--His good, pleasing and perfect will!!



Romans 8:5,6: Those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their **MINDS** set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of sinful man is death, but the **MIND** controlled by the Spirit is life and peace!



Philippians 4:8,9: Finally, brothers, whatever is **TRUE**, whatever is **NOBLE**, whatever is **RIGHT**, whatever is **PURE**, whatever is **LOVELY**, whatever is **ADMIRABLE**,**THINK ABOUT SUCH THINGS**... And the God of peace will be with you!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!

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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 10:37 AM

Richard7744 the CULT teacher writes - "The closer we get to God the more we realize how much we fall short and sin daily; and realize our need to confess our sins daily to get closer to God." end quote.





Hey Richard! Just because you have a pet sin(s) you do daily does not mean the rest of us do. You want to buy into sinning daily, then you will be lost eternally, not me! Greater is Yahuwah that is in me than satan is in you, you daily wanna be sinner!



Richard7744 has **DAILY** pet sins he loves to keep doing friends, so he thinks everyone else dwells in **DAILY** sins! The Bible does not teach that, for it says we live by FAITH, the FAITH **OF** Yah'shua not just FAITH **IN** Yah'shua the Messiah that died for our PAST sins, when we repented of them!



Yah'shua the Messiah came and showed us how to live a **PERFECT** life, a sinless life, so follow Him people, NOT Richard7744! OK?



Richard7744 does NOT teach **TRUE RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH** that the Bible clearly states below!









Mt 5:48 NASB "Therefore >>you are to be perfect<<, as your heavenly Father is perfect."



Col 1:28 KJV "Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present >>every man perfect in Christ Jesus:<<"



Phil 3:15 ASV "Let us therefore, >>as many as are perfect,<< be thus minded: and if in anything ye are otherwise minded, this also shall God reveal unto you:"



2 Corth 13:11 DRB "For the rest, brethren, rejoice, >>be perfect,<< take exhortation, be of one mind, have peace; and the God of peace and of love shall be with you."



Luke 6:40 AKJV "The student is not above his master teacher: >>but every one that is perfect<< shall be as his master."







1 John 4:4 NASB "You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because >>greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.<<"



1 John 5:18 NIV "We know that anyone >>born of God does not continue to sin;<< the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them."



1 John 3:6 NLT ">>Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin.<< But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is."



Jude 1:24 JB2000 "Now unto >>Him that is powerful to keep you without sin << and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,



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Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 11:50 AM

When the saints go marching in, I hope to see Mr. Richard and Mr. Teddy there. We will have a fine time with sing, dancing, and duct tape over someone's mouth so he can't repeat himself and try to ruin it. :)

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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 12:33 PM

**IS THE **SINLESS PERFECTION** DOCTRINE FOR BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS TAUGHT BY TEDDY HUGGER, A DOCTRINE THAT IS TAUGHT IN GOD'S WORD**??



Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, “Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisees {Like Teddy Hugger} stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!”



I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 3 commands of God!!!



Isaiah 55:8,9: God says, "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts!!"



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"



He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven only by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has **NEVER** been spiritually renewed.



The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not good all the time like God and are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely.



The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, “Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!” This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible.



I John 1:3-10: We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may have fellowship with us... We write this to make **OUR JOY COMPLETE**. This is the message we have heard **FROM HIM** and declare to you: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!



And so those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** make **GOD A LIAR** and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM**!!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach **US** to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Many claim that the Apostle Peter never sinned after the coming of the Holy Spirit?? However:



Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or ***BAD***.



Teddy Hugger believes and teaches the Satanic lie that the earth is **FLAT**?? He would therfore believe that 100 percent of the Christians who are not **BRAIN DEAD**and believe the earth is round are guilty of sin and can never get to heaven

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Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 02:10 PM

Isaiah Says that the Earth is **CIRCULAR**



Isaiah was inspired by God to say in Isaiah 40:21-22:



"Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood since the earth was founded? He sits enthroned above the **CIRCLE OF THE EARTH**, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy!!



So Isaiah clearly calls the Earth a “circle.” This clearly shows that he had a round idea of the Earth. This is interesting for a couple of reasons:



1.First of all, he says God sits above the **CIRCLE OF THE EARTH**. Circle can mean “spherical, round, etc.” So he is clearly calling it something **ROUND**.



2.Secondly, this blows away the arguments by the skeptics that the Prophets thought the Earth has “corners.” Hint: A circle doesn’t have a corner. Therefore, why would a man well versed in the scriptures of God call the Earth a circle if he believed it to be a flat cornered piece of land? He wouldn’t! So obviously he believed the **EARTH WAS CIRCULAR** in nature.



Isaiah oddly uses the term **CIRCLE**, and it is odd that anyone would describe the earth that way unless they actually supposed it was **CIRCULAR** in nature.



There have been thousands of pictures of the earth from outer space and every picture shows a **CIRCULAR ROUND EARTH**!!



Every intelligent person knows that you travel **WEST** by plane from New York City to New Delhi India with a stop over in Tokyo and you can **ALSO** travel **EAST** by plane from New York City to New Delhi India with a stop over in Tel Aviv Israel.! This of course would be impossible if the earth was flat and only possible if the **EARTH WAS CIRCULAR**!!

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Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 05:07 PM

We are not to practice sin. If we are "saved" we still sin.

Jesus paid the sin debt in full for all our sins.

We must confess our sin to Him and he will forgive us our sins.



(1John 1:8-9 )

KJV

If we say we have no sin we decide ourselves, and the truth is not in us.



If we confess our sin, he if faithful and just to forgive us our sin, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



Trust is always in Jesus.

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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 07:19 PM

Cupcake writes,



"We are not to practice sin. If we are "saved" we still sin." end quote.



Do you know how unreasonable this sounds in your post? There is only one way to read it.



If "we are not to practice sin" then that is a choice to do so. So who helps us to keep from sinning? Yahuwah and His set apart Spirit guides and instructs us. Right? His set apart Holy Spirit gives us a way out from breaking Yahuwah's perfect Law which is the definition of what sin is. OK with that?



First there is the temptation to sin that comes from satan. Right? Is there a way out (escape) from sinning after temptation, to NOT give into sin?



1 Corth 10:13 NASB "No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it."



So we have a Father (Yahuwah) in heaven that is WAY MORE POWERFUL than satan which tempts Christians and trys to get them to break Yahuwah's perfect Laws, which is sin! Right?



1 John 4:4 NASB "You are from God, little children, and have overcome them; because >>greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world.<<"



Anyone claiming to be a Christian would KNOW who Yahuwah the Father is and understand who He is. Right? Would they also follow in the footsteps of His Son Yah'shua the Messiah, who set an example of a perfect relationship He had with His Father, who did not sin? So what do we do as a Christian, do we continue in sin? He keeps us safe from sin! Right?



1 John 3:6 NLT ">>Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin.<< But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is."



1 John 5:18 NIV "We know that anyone >>born of God does not continue to sin;<< the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them."



Are you starting to see the truth in the Bible Cupcake of the POWER of our Creator that can deliver us from sinning!?



So your statement - "If we are "saved" we still sin." is just not Biblical, you have no Bible verse proving we as Christians will just keep on sinning!



The truth of the matter is everyone would want to be a "Christian", that kind of "believer" that will just keep on sinning like a pink energizer bunny! What would be the difference then to an "unbeliever" to that of a "believer" that both continue to live in sin???



Absurdity teaching but that is exactly what you are teaching Cupcake! Right?

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Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 07:33 PM

Cupcake writes -



(1John 1:8-9 ) KJV



" If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

" If we confess our sin, He if faithful and just to forgive us our sin, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."



end quotes.



So if we say we have NEVER sinned in the past we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. We are LIARS claiming we have no sin before we become Christians! Agree?



Once we know we are rotten SINNERS and we were NOT Christians then, we confess our sins, then we become BELIEVERS and He if faithful and just to forgive us our sin, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."



Make sense?



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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 07:47 PM

Richard7744 the false teacher writes -



"And so those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** make **GOD A LIAR** and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM**!!"



**BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY**



1 John 3:6 NLT ">>Anyone who continues to live in him will not sin.<< But anyone who keeps on sinning does not know him or understand who he is."



1 John 5:18 NIV "We know that anyone >>born of God does not continue to sin;<< the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them."



Mt 5:48 NASB "Therefore >>you are to be perfect<<, as your heavenly Father is perfect."



The Bible says we can be perfect by His POWER and MIGHT but Richard7744 the false teacher says our Creator is not POWERFUL enough to make us perfect and keep us from sinning!



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**PRAY CONTINUALLY**, GIVE THANKS IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR THIS IS GOD'S WILL FOR YOU IN CHRIST JESUS**!! I Thess 5:17,18
Posted : 9 Jan, 2020 08:02 PM

**IS THE **SINLESS PERFECTION** DOCTRINE FOR BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS TAUGHT BY TEDDY HUGGER, A DOCTRINE THAT IS TAUGHT IN GOD'S WORD**??



Matthew 18:10-14: Jesus said, “Two men went up to the temple to **PRAY**, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisees {Like Teddy Hugger} stood up and **PRAYED** about himself: 'God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.' But the tax collector stood at a distance, He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, '**GOD, HAVE MERCY ON ME, A SINNER**'!!.'"I tell you that this man rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted!”



I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST** LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Matthew 5:48: Jesus says, "Be perfect **AS YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER IS PERFECT**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above four New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above 3 commands of God!!!



Isaiah 55:8,9: God says, "My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts!!"



Mark 10:18: Jesus says, "No one is good--except God alone!!"



He who is born again does not **CONTINUALLY** sin, and is not a **HABITUAL** sinner as he was before he came to know Jesus. The born again believer has no urge to sin as he once did, because he was driven only by his fallen nature. He who is born again will not continue in, or like their sin. If anyone continually and habitually sins, and does not feel ill about it, it may prove that he has **NEVER** been spiritually renewed.



The closer we grow in our relationship with Jesus Christ, the more we will see our sinfulness. To claim that we are no longer a sinner in any fashion, and no longer sin, shows how far away we are from the Lord and His word. God's saints are not good all the time like God and are not **SINLESS** but they **SIN FAR LESS**. The man who claims any perfection except that perfection which we have in Christ, is a hypocrite. He is not sinless in the flesh, and simply lies if he says that he is. He is exactly like the Pharisees of old, who thought that they were sinless in the flesh also. Only when we are delivered from "this body of death," will we be delivered from sin completely.



The alleged "sinless perfection" that results from "sanctification" is a monstrous doctrine that plays right into the hands of Satan. Believing this doctrine, one man claimed, “Since I have been sanctified, every impulse or desire to sin has been completely erased from my heart!” This statement indicates a totally false sense of spiritual security and immunity to sin. Such a position makes repentance, confession, and the need of forgiveness of sins logically inapplicable, if not impossible.



I John 1:3-10: We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you may have fellowship with us... We write this to make **OUR JOY COMPLETE**. This is the message we have heard **FROM HIM** and declare to you: If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. **IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS**, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned we make Him out to be a liar and **HIS WORD IS NOT IN US**!



And so those who believe in **SINLESS PERFECTION** make **GOD A LIAR** and the **TRUTH IS NOT IN THEM**!!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach **US** to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Galatians 6:1-3: Is someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore him gently... Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the **LAW OF CHRIST**!!



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Many claim that the Apostle Peter never sinned after the coming of the Holy Spirit?? However:



Galatians 2:11-13: Paul was inspired to write, "When Cephas {Peter} came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because **HE STOOD CONDEMNED**. For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group. The other Jews joined him in **HIS HYPOCRISY, so that by their hypocrisy even **BARNABAS WAS LED ASTRAY**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Galatians 6:1: Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you may also be tempted. Carry each others burdens, and in this way you fulfill the law of Christ!!



2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or ***BAD***.



Teddy Hugger believes and teaches the Satanic lie that the earth is **FLAT**?? He would therfore believe that 100 percent of the Christians who are not **BRAIN DEAD**and believe the earth is round are guilty of sin and can never get to heaven. Teddy Hugger maybe the only **SINLESSLY PERFECT* Christian to make it to heaven but then he would be **VERY LONELY**!!

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