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Moonlight7

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Did God Established Government ?
Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 08:12 AM

Why is it that Believers in Jesus Christ think it is not necessary to Vote in elections? This goes for church leaders also! They think God doesn't deal in political matters.



Reference a few scriptures;

Isaiah 9:6

Isaiah 22:21

I Corinthians 12:28

2 Peter 2:10

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Please post scripture referring to Government in the Bible!



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Moonlight7

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 08:29 AM

Please no unnecessary scripture Unrelated to topic !!

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 01:07 PM

"Why is it that Believers in Jesus Christ think it is not necessary to Vote in elections? This goes for church leaders also! They think God doesn't deal in political matters."

Scriptures you mention:"Isaiah 9:6;Isaiah 22:21:I Corinthians 12:28;2 Peter 2:10"



I don't know what circles you associate with, but, in my opinion, the opposite appears to be the case. Some Christians and Christian organizations have often publicly hitched their cart to a political candidate. They have said they did this in hopes that there would be a restoral of morality. But if the candidate doesn't have any personal morality or doesn't exercise good spiritual common sense, if that person gets elected, Christians get tainted with that stain. We have to remember, God will not ask us if we are republican, democrat, conservative or liberal when we get to heaven.

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 05:28 PM

Scriptures you mention:"Isaiah 9:6;Isaiah 22:21:I Corinthians 12:28;2 Peter 2:10"



Here is one verse(from many) that support the concept that God establishes "government" in the civil/political sphere, not in the spiritual sphere.



Romans 13:1

Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but that by God: and the authorities that exist have been ordained by God.



One of the verses you gave(I Cor. 12:28) pertains to authority or management as a gift of the Holy Spirit among believers. It has no reference to civil/political matters.

In I Cor. 6:1, Paul chastises believers for taking matters of this life to judgement before the courts of the lost. Though human government has power over the physical/material realm, believers who have issues with other believers are admonished not to take those matters before human courts.



As to voting, I know some believers who don't and some who do. Paul prayed for his rulers. When he was charged with a crime, he used his rights as a freeborn roman citizen.(Acts 16:37-38; 22:25-28) Since voting isn't mentioned, it would seem to be a matter of conscience. What are your thoughts?

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 06:53 PM

Thank you for sharing your scriptures and thoughts !



The word voting may not been mentioned in the Bible. But government has been. My point for this thread is that government was established by God , so those who are Believers in Christ should not think voting is not important .



I know Believers who vote and those who think it's not important .

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Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 08:47 PM

Voting for a Republican or a Democrat now a days is just like voting for **666** or voting for Satan.



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Posted : 30 Oct, 2019 09:26 PM

None of that is important!



We are under **CHRISTS LAW** now! Wake up!

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2019 12:08 PM

Ridiculous quote by the “prophetic”.



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Voting for a Republican or a Democrat now a days is just like voting for **666** or voting for Satan.

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The “prophetic” apparently has an extremely high view of the anti-christ when he compares him to even the worst of this country’s candidates. The anti-christ will be worse then the worst of anything we’ve seen here



Prophetic and other non-voters find all kinds of reasons to not participate in the election process.



Non-voters actually assure the continuance of sadistic baby killing by abortion by their irresponsible inaction.



Non-voters also insure that wicked educators will deceive even more young students into sexual promiscuity and evolution. Poor prophetic is a good example of being deceived by evolution and doesn’t even know it, he interprets Genesis 1 the way “theistic” evolutionists do.



Non-voters ought to examine at all the filth that won in congress or anywhere else by just a few votes that could have been avoided if only a few more people had gotten off their buts



In my next post I will post the results of voter inaction and all the evils that resulted.



It’s nice that “prophetic” and his non-voter ilk standby while the floodgates of evil open further.



Governor Ralph Northam of Virginia wants to start killing babies AFTER they are born.



In the meantime, non-voters help the sadistic baby killers by not lifting a finger to help. I wonder if they even pray!



For all practical purposes, non-voters may as well join abortionists. They’ve already joined abortionists by finding fault with a President who is doing something to stop the carnage

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Moonlight7

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Posted : 31 Oct, 2019 01:19 PM

Believers do have responsibility as long as we live in this life.

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Posted : 2 Nov, 2019 09:27 PM

Vote for Jesus,He already won :D

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Posted : 3 Nov, 2019 06:55 AM

What is God doing in this age that started in the new testament? He is not establishing a land or nation or temple. Believers in all nations are agents in the hand of God to make known the gospel of salvation. I thank God that we do not have people like Constantine or the roman catholics who compelled conversions. A compelled conversion is no conversion at all. They took away the property and lives of those who disagreed with them. Depending on who is in power, you could be compelled. Protestants in the Reformation period were guilty of this as well, whether in Germany, Geneva or England. God's power isn't being displayed in forced beliefs. it is displayed in Christ, in the cross.

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