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Who follows the Roman Catholic Church may surprise you! Sola Scriptura?
Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 12:13 PM

The Roman Catholic Church teaches divine authority is founded by a combination of Scripture and Church Tradition. While the Protestants protest Church Tradition as authoritative they still accept the Books the Roman Catholic Church chose for them as their foundation of truth. To complicate matters further; the Protestants rejected the Apocrypha as inspired on the word of the same Jews who reject Jesus. Therefore "Sola Scriptura" is in fact an incomplete statement. Rather it should be: "We only follow the Scriptures Rome picked for us, except those the Jews reject." The irony is these same people claim they have the Only Truth from God based on a Text inherited from those they disagree with.

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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 12:36 PM

I think you are trying to cover up Teddyhug's thread with your many cover threads..

Will get back to this issue later. Jimminy Cricket!

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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 12:42 PM

The Roman Catholic Church officially canonized the Apocrypha in the Council of Trent (1546 AD). This was in part because the Apocrypha contained material which supported certain Catholic doctrines, such as purgatory, praying for the dead, and the treasury of merit.



Luther sinfully rejected the books of James and Revelation and Calvin sinfully believed that Revelation was not inspired by God.



There were many Bible believing churches besides the Roman Catholic Church which also believed that all the books in the present Bible are inspired by God after AD 100 with the help of many inspired original manuscripts and almost the entire New Testament was written in many good Christian books after AD 100.



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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 12:52 PM

KJO,

What an evil thought. I just posted a few topics I'm studying - His is still squarely on the first page. It'd be easy to knock off the first page if I so desired, so I'm surprised you'd say such a thing.

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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 12:55 PM

Soooo....... prophetic in your typical motif are you going to call Luther and Calvin Satanic?

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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 01:25 PM

Luther had many evil ideas besides rejecting James and Revelation. He also believed in a slightly watered down Roman Catholic Mass that you accept by faith which is still practiced in Lutheran Churches today. Luther also went crazy in his later books when he claimed that the Jews were all extremely evil and blamed all Jews for the crucifixion of Christ. Hitler quoted Luther continually as the reason we should kill all the Jews.



Luther rejected the book of James because he didn't understand that when God chooses His faithful saints, that they are God's workmanship to do good works; not to gain salvation but to gain countless eternal rewards for faithful and loving service.



Ephesians 2:8-10: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**-- and this is not **FROM YOURSELVES, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**--**NOT BY WORKS**, so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!



Revelation 17:14: They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will triumph over them because He is **LORD** of lords and **KING** of kings--and with Him will be His **CALLED** **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers! {Right after the marriage Feast of the **LAMB** on heavenly white horses as per Revelation 19:7-20}



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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 04:41 PM

Although it is recorded in scripture, I would not read the ones claiming to be the book of Jasher as they are counterfeits. So,..where is the real book?

2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)



There is a book called “The Book of Jasher” today, although it is not the same book as mentioned in the Old Testament. It is an eighteenth-century forgery that alleges to be a translation of the “lost” Book of Jasher by Alcuin, an eighth-century English scholar. There is also a more recent book titled “The Book of Jashar” by science fiction and fantasy writer Benjamin Rosenbaum. This book is a complete work of fiction.

Another book by this same name, called by many “Pseudo-Jasher,” while written in Hebrew, is also not the “Book of Jasher” mentioned in Scripture. It is a book of Jewish legends from the creation to the conquest of Canaan under Joshua, but scholars hold that it did not exist before A.D. 1625. In addition, there are several other theological works by Jewish rabbis and scholars called “Sefer ha Yashar,” but none of these claim to be the original Book of Jasher.

This is why you stick to scripture!

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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 04:42 PM

Sorry Zech, I am used to Parrots many postings all at once.

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Posted : 16 Aug, 2019 04:58 PM

John 15 talks about Jesus bringing things to remembrance what the Apostles needed to communicate to others.Therefore, they became the Canon for the NT. The Apostles were looked on as having authoritative doctrine. When they died , their writings still remained.

Does any particular book bear with it apostolic authority. ?

or by someone associated with an Apostle.?

Peter was associated with Paul. Peter called him a brother. Mark was associated Peter. Luke with Paul. Jude and James were closely associated .

There was already a collection of books formulated. It wasn't a matter of voting . It was an act of leaders who recognized it as Authoritative. So , was it indeed the Catholic church that chose the books. Perhaps it was more about concerning exclusion than inclusion. Remember the Catholic church thinks Peter is the Pope, so anyone he was in contact with was already approved. I wouldn't be surprised if God used the Catholic church to purify his Holy Bible.

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Posted : 17 Aug, 2019 09:33 AM

Satan and his followers like Zecharyah claim that Jesus was a human sinner and was not God??



**BUT WHAT DOES GOD's WORD SAY**??



2 Corinthians 5:21: God made Him **WHO HAD NO SIN** to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God!



Hebrews 4:14-15: Since we have a great High Priest who ascended into heaven. Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly the faith we profess. For we do not have a High Priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have One who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--**YET WITHOUT SIN**!!



**IS JESUS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**??



John 20:27-29: Then He said to Thomas, "Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to him, "My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!"



Isaiah 9:6: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!



Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign. The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and will call Him **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}



Matthew 1:20-23: The angel of the Lord said to Joseph, "Take Mary home as your wife because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She is to give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus which means **GOD IS HELP**, because He will save His people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet {Isaiah 7:14 above} "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and they will call Him **IMMANUEL** which means **GOD WITH US**!



John 1:18: No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!



John 14:6,7: Jesus says, "I am the **WAY** the **TRUTH** and the **LIFE**. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really knew Me, you will know the Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have **SEEN HIM**!"



**GOD'S WORD COMMANDS THAT WE SHOULD ONLY WORSHIP GOD**!!



Matthew 4:9,10: Satan said to Jesus, "All this I will give you if you bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, Away from Me Satan! For it is written, '**WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD** and serve Him only!



Revelation 19:9,10: The angel said to me, "Write this: **BLESSED** are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the **LAMB**!" And he added, "These are the true words of God!" At this I fell at his feet to **WORSHIP** him, But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus! **WORSHIP GOD**! For it is the spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus!"



Revelation 22:8,9: I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "**DON'T DO THAT** A am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who **KEEP THE WORDS** of this scroll. **WORSHIP GOD**!!



Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"



Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY**in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always!"



**JESUS CHRIST, OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**



Jesus is **WORSHIPED** many times in God's Word in Matthew 2:2,8,11; 14:33; 28:9,17 Luke 24:52 John 9:38 and Revelation 5:11-14 and !5:4!!



Matthew 2:10,11: When the Wise Men saw the star, they were overjoyed. On coming to the house, they saw the Child with His mother Mary, and they bowed down and **WORSHIPED HIM**!



Matthew 14:33; Then those who were in the boat **WORSHPED HIM**!!



Matthew 28:8,9: So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," He said. They came to Him, clasped His feet and **WORSHIPED HIM**!



Matthew 28:16,17: Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When the saw Him, they **WORSHIPED HIM**!



There are some who completely ignore these Scriptures and claim that Jesus is not God because he said that the Father is greater than me in John 14:28 and that the Father told Him what to say as per John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. The words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me."



John 9:37,38: Jesus said, "You have now seen Him; in fact, He is the one speaking with you!" Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he **WORSHIPED HIM**!



NOTE: Jesus is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation!



Revelation 5:13,14: Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, an all that is In them, saying "To Him who sits on the throne and to the **LAMB** be praise and honor and glory and power for ever and ever!" The 4 living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and **WORSHIPED**!



Revelation 17:14; They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be **HIS** **CALLED**, *CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!



Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!

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Posted : 17 Aug, 2019 01:25 PM

P74, please post in the appropriate sections. I know you are old and probably can't use a computer very well except to cut and paste, but can you please try to put your posts in the right section. You indeed are the author of confusion in this section.



Btw, to answer your idiotic accusations: (that you can't seem to get in the right section);



"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

Aristotle



This is a DISCUSSION forum! Do you know what that means? 🙄

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