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1611 KJV Gospel accoding to John 15 verses 1-2
Posted : 27 Jul, 2019 08:54 PM

1 I am the true vine, and my Father is þe husbandman.



2 Euery branch in me that beareth not fruit, hee taketh away: and euery branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring foorth more fruit.



The KJV and other English translations have translated this scripture wrongly.

In verse 2 the English word 'AWAY' does not appear in the Greek scriptures.

The Greek word for 'AWAY' is APO, which is not in the Greek text.

The english word ' away ' was added by the translators, which they say is necessary to make the English translations better to read.

There are other places where words have been added, removed and changed by the translators, which changes the Word of GOD Almighty.

When people teach from the altered translations, are they not teaching error.

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1611 KJV Gospel accoding to John 15 verses 1-2
Posted : 27 Jul, 2019 10:57 PM

Is this what you referred to?



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airei

αἴρει

He takes away

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1611 KJV Gospel accoding to John 15 verses 1-2
Posted : 27 Jul, 2019 11:01 PM

Strong's Concordance

airó: to raise, take up, lift

Original Word: αἴρω

Part of Speech: Verb

Transliteration: airó

Phonetic Spelling: (ah'-ee-ro)

Definition: to raise, take up, lift

Usage: I raise, lift up, take away, remove.

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1611 KJV Gospel accoding to John 15 verses 1-2
Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 04:15 AM

Yes kjv, the translators added the word AWAY,they say the word is needed to help understand the text better.

When the word AWAY is added, it changes the text completely. The self called pastors say this is about the judgement of GOD Almighty against sin, instead of about the Grace of GOD Almighty and His mercy.

How many times will you hear this taught as jughement instead of Grace.

1"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser( landworker). 2"Every branch in Me that does not bear(carry)fruit, He takes away( takes or lifts up); and every [branch] that bears(carries) fruit, He prunes(cleans) it so that it may bear more fruit

I have posted the correct translation, the words in paranthesis are the correct words for the text.

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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 04:16 AM

There are many such errors in the translations.

When read correctly, the english translations bring a person back under the law instead of Grace.

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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 04:18 AM

The Greek word AIRO, is were we get the word airplane first spelled aeroplane, the later changed.

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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 05:24 AM

gracenotworkssaves quote:



"Every translation of the Word of GOD Almighty has many errors."



And gracenotwprkssaves believes only he knows how to correct all the errors even though he is not a Greek or Hebrew scholar. However there a lot of very good translations from the original Greek and Hebrew by many excellent Bible translators with just a few minor errors!!



**DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT *ADDING** OR **TAKING WORDS** AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD IS A SIN**??



**WE ARE BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD** 1 Peter 1:23



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Acts 5:32: We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given **TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM**!"



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** {Like the RC popes} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the RC popes} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



John 16:12-15: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”



There a lot of very good translations from the original Greek and Hebrew by many excellent Bible translators with just a few minor errors!! Whereas False Prophets of Satan try to convince that every Bible translation is full of errors and can not be trusted!!



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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 05:49 AM

The deciever of the believers shows his face again.

Richard, why do you lie about people, is that what Messiah says you are to do, OR are you following the advice of the enemy of Messiah.

No man can serve two masters.

You show which one you serve with you distorted lying posts.

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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 06:25 AM

gracenotworkssaves quote:



"Every translation of the Word of GOD Almighty has many errors."



And gracenotwprkssaves believes only he knows how to correct all the errors even though he is not a Greek or Hebrew scholar. However there a lot of very good translations from the original Greek and Hebrew by many excellent Bible translators with just a few minor errors!!



**DOES GOD'S WORD SAY THAT *ADDING** OR **TAKING WORDS** AWAY FROM GOD'S WORD IS A SIN**??



**WE ARE BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING WORD OF GOD** 1 Peter 1:23



Deuteronomy 18:17-19: The Lord said to Moses, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among your fellow Israelites, and I will put My words in His mouth. He will tell them **EVERYTHING** I command Him. I Myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to My words that the Prophet speaks in My name!!"



John 14:21-24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. These words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me!" {See Deut 18:17-19 above}



Acts 5:32: We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given **TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM**!"



Luke 6:46-49: Jesus says, "As for everyone who comes to Me and hears **MY WORDS** and **PUTS THEM INTO PRACTICE**. I will show you what they are like. They are like a man building a house, who dug down deep and laid foundation on rock. When the flood came, the torrent struck that house but could not shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears **MY WORDS** and does not put them into practice is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The moment the torrent struck that house, it collapsed and its destruction was complete!"



I Peter 1:23-25: You have been **BORN AGAIN THROUGH THE LIVING AND ENDURING **WORD OF GOD**!! All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field, the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the **WORD OF THE LORD STANDS FOREVER**. And this is the **WORD** that was preached to you.



Matthew 24:35: Jesus says, Heaven and earth will pass away, but **MY WORDS WILL NEVER PASS AWAY**!"



I John 2:3-5: We know we have come to know Him {Jesus} if we obey His commands. The man who says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, God's love is truly made complete in him!



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



Luke 8:15: Jesus says, "But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the **WORD**, retain it, and by perseverance produce a crop."



John 17:17: Jesus prays to His Father, "Sanctify them by the Truth, **YOUR WORD IS TRUTH**!"



Acts 20:32: Paul says, "Now I commit you to God and to the **WORD OF HIS GRACE**, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified!"



Romans 10:17: Consequently, **FAITH COMES FROM HEARING THE MESSAGE**, and the message is heard **THROUGH THE WORD OF CHRIST**!



James 1:18; He chose to give us **BIRTH THROUGH THE WORD** of Truth!!



I Corinthians 15:2: By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the **WORD** preached to you. Otherwise you have believed in vain!



2 Corinthians 4:2: We do not use deception, nor do we distort the **WORD OF GOD**!



Ephesians 1:13: You also were included in Christ **WHEN** you heard the **WORD** of Truth, the gospel of your salvation.



Ephesians 2:17: Take the sword of the Spirit, which is the **WORD OF GOD**!



Colossians 1:25: I have become its servant by the commission God gave to me to present to you the **WORD OF GOD IN ALL ITS FULLNESS**!



Colossians 3:16: Let the **WORD OF CHRIST** dwell in you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom!



I Thessalonians 2:13: We thank God continually because, when you received the **WORD OF GOD**, which you heard from us, you received it not as the word of men, but as it actually is, the **WORD OF GOD**!



Acts 17:11,12: Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and **EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY**... As a result many of them believed!!



Psalm 118:147,148: I rise before dawn and cry for help; I have put my hope in **YOUR WORD**! My eyes stay open through the watches of the night, that I might meditate on **YOUR PROMISES**!!



2 Timothy 2:15: Do your best to present yourselves to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who **CORRECTLY HANDLES THE WORD ** of truth!



2 Timothy 3:15,16: 4:1,2: You have known the **HOLY SCRIPTURES**, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. **ALL SCRIPTURE IS GOD-BREATHED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of His appearing and His kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**!! {**WHICH IS THE ENTIRE NEW COVENANT AND NEW TESTAMENT**!!}



**DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN UMPARDONABLE SIN**??



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the **WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK**: If anyone **ADDS** {Like the RC popes} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including **ETERNAL HELL**} And if anyone **TAKES WORDS AWAY** {Like the RC popes} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



John 16:12-15: Jesus says, "I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the spirit of Truth comes, he will guide you into all the Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify Me because it is from Me that he will receive what he will make known to you!"



And holy spirit inspired the 8 writers of the 27 books of the New Testament to write everything Jesus told him to write!!



THE GREAT COMMISSION: Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, “All authority in heaven and on ***EARTH*** has been given to Me {Not some RC Pope}. Therefore go and make disciples of *ALL NATIONS*...teaching them to **OBEY EVERYTHING** {The entire NT} I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very *END OF THE AGE*!”



There a lot of very good translations from the original Greek and Hebrew by many excellent Bible translators with just a few minor errors!! Whereas False Prophets of Satan try to convince that every Bible translation is full of errors and can not be trusted!!

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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 08:18 AM

P7744,



What are you doing? First you attack Sadlup (he is gone now) and now garcenotworkssaves!



Notice now below, you quote gracenotworkssaves -



"Every translation of the Word of GOD Almighty has many errors."



And that is true, that is what he posted but you are actually reading into what he is trying to say in this THREAD NOW!



Maybe in his frustration, GNWS has been witnessing errors in all translations and DID YOU KNOW YOU ACTUALLY AGREE WITH HIM! Ha! Read below a quote of what you posted!



P7744 posts -



"There a lot of very good translations from the original Greek and Hebrew by many excellent Bible translators with just a few minor errors!! Whereas False Prophets of Satan try to convince that every Bible translation is full of errors and can not be trusted!!"



Did you catch it, how YOU agreed with GNWS??? Yeah, you just stated in this very thread that all "Bible translators" have error because you said that even the "excellent" (according to you) Bible translators have "just a few minor errors" in them!



That is hilarious but really quite sad that you attack GNWS and turn right around and agree that every Bible has errors in it! Lol! Which I find that quite a lot of them do. So YOU see we could accuse YOU now of what YOU accuse GNWS of doing! Lets give YOU some of your medicine by quoting BACK TO YOU your very own statement.



"DOES GOD"S WORD SAY THAT **ADDING** OR **TAKING WORD'S AWAY** FROM GOD's WORD IS AN

UMPARDONABLE SIN?"



Just what you accuse GNWS of doing, YOU do yourself by your own interpretation of what the unpardonable sin is because you say that even the "excellent Bible translators" have "a few minor" errors in them. Even "a few minor" errors is still error, right P7744! Lol.



So EVEN those "excellent Bible translators "have committed the "unpardonable sin" according to YOU! So what was your point then, you agree with gracenotworkssaves that every Bible has error in them according to you also.



So this begs the question of which Bibles do not and just how important is this FACT when we become serious Bible students and learn to use the tools like concordances, Bible dictionaries etc to find the actual errors and correct them. Is not this what this Bible discussion forum is for???



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Posted : 28 Jul, 2019 08:25 AM

P7744,



Lets look at the obvious of what you accuse others of doing and NOW we will show CRYSTAL CLEAR evidence of what "ADDING OR TAKING WORD'S AWAY" from the Word of Yah is, in quoting what YOU posted below!



"Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus. have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Churches.... I warn everyone who hears the WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK: If anyone ADDS {Like the RC popes} anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this Book {Including ETERNAL HELL} And if anyone TAKES WORDS AWAY {Like the RC popes} from

this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book."



Do you see it folks? P7744 inserted "ETERNAL HELL" right into that very verse and right above that verse (in his original post) he states "ADDING OR TAKING WORD'S AWAY" from the Bible IS "AN UMPARDONABLE SIN" in P7744's very own wording!



Richard here is CLEARLY "ADDING" to the words in the Bible!



Do the simple word search yourself in a concordance friends! The word "Eternal" is listed 47 times in my concordance and the word "Hell" is listed 54 times. NOT ONCE does the Bible combine those two words together!



Richard (P7744) here is CLEARLY "ADDING" to the words in the Bible and HAS committed the or "AN UMPARDONABLE SIN" according to Richard (P7744) himself!



Richard has self convicted himself and he cannot even repent because he has committed "AN

UMPARDONABLE SIN" by Richard's very own words and standards, there is no forgiveness Richard states. So he is doomed according to Richard (P7744) in the one day made lake of fire and certain death in that lake of fire, Quite sad that Richard would do such a thing by his very own words he posted in this thread! OUCH!



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