Besides being inconsistent with my grip at people being careless about misrepresenting God’s word and other poster’s words, here I go doing what I despise. I think you would rightly call me a hypocrite even though I did not do it willfully!! I TOTALLY misread one of prophetic7744’s posts which included a reference for Cupcakeme and Needsafriend to rad but in a rush of judgement, I accused prophetic7744 of calling these 2 posters liars. Prophetic7744 DID NOT do this, he DID NOT call cupcakeme and needs-a-friend liars. I also misread the same post thinking prophetic 7744 said these 2 posters did not accept the apostle Paul’s authority. This was also a rush to judgment on my part based on a misreading of Prophetic7744’s comments!! Prophetic7744 DID NOT say Cupcakeme and Needs-A-Friend reject Paul’s Apostlship !! I simply and stupidly misunderstood.
Besides being inconsistent with my grip at people being careless about misrepresenting God’s word and other poster’s words, here I go doing what I despise.
I think you would rightly call me a hypocrite even though I did not do it willfully!!
I TOTALLY misread one of prophetic7744’s posts which included a reference for Cupcakeme and Needsafriend to read but in a rush to judgement, I accused prophetic7744 of calling these 2 posters liars.
Prophetic7744 DID NOT do this, he DID NOT call cupcakeme and needs-a-friend liars.
I also misread the same post thinking prophetic 7744 said these 2 posters did not accept the apostle Paul’s authority. This was also a rush to judgment on my part based on a misreading of Prophetic7744’s comments!!
Prophetic7744 DID NOT say Cupcakeme and Needs-A-Friend reject Paul’s Apostlship !! I simply and stupidly misunderstood.
This acknowledgment has only to do with the incident discussed above.
I’m going to make it an objective to be more careful from now on in future posts.
My objective is to reflect the only the truth in my posts and when I fail at that publicly even inadvertently, I need to state so publicly.
Little David: Thank you very much for your very sincere apology! That took a lot of Christian courage. I forgive you completely. I must also apologize for I am sure I have offended some brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, our Great God and Savior!
Richard, you did not offend others, you JUDGED them cslling them SATAN, and condemned sadl to hell.
When did GOD Almighty ever give you the power or authority to do that.
Messiah says What you do to others, you are doing that to me, are you then guilty of the UNPARDONABLE SIN, of judging others to have an unclean spirit.
Read that scripture in its context if you are able.
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and iin the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
These words are part of God's Word and all of God's pastors, teachers, evangelists and prophets are commanded to **PREACH THE WORD**!! And the two **UNPARDONABLE SINS** in Revelation 22:18,19 above are part of God's Word. So if someone teaches on this Christian forum that the words in Revelation are not inspired by God or if they **ADD** or *TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the book of Revelation I have the right to warn that teacher that they may have committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding *SAD*lup} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Now *SAD*lup does not believe in the eternal New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth as do Jewish Rabbai's and I reminded several times that according to Revelation 22:18,19 it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN** to **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation he said that was garbage. I believe that anyone who teaches the prophecies in the Book of Revelation they should be extremely careful not to **ADD** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation since it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN!!
Jewish rabbai's and *SAD*lup believe in the coming of an earthly Kingdom of God where the Jews are again God's holy people and there are again animal sacrices for the foguveness of sin, and that there will be 2 thromes for God the Father and King David. Whereas Revelation 22:3 states that there will be only 2 Thrones in the eternal New Jerusalem for the God the Father and the **LAMB** Jesus Christ our great God and Savior!
Revelation 22:3: The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City!!
Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, II will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne!"
Jewish rabbai's and ^SAD*lup do not believe in the New Jerusalem, which is almost 1400 miles long wide and high, with its New Heaven and New Earth. But most Jewish rabbai's do not know it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**. But **SAD*lup knows and yet he still keeps teaching it on a **CHRISTIAN FORUM!!
haven’t heard from you in awhile, good to see you again.
I’ve been doing a little self-examination, especially after I totally misunderstood something Richard said and then accused him of saying something he didn’t say thus misleading others into thinking he said something he didn’t.
I wanna be against false teaching but here I am basically teaching false doctrine by being careless with the facts!!
I think it’s right to debate topics and to debate them vigorously. But it’s easy to lose sight of that objective and began to slip carelessly into misrepresenting the other person—I’m talkin’ about me here and whoa that hurts!
The whole point of debate is to defend truth, glorify God and respect persons (“love my neighbor as myself”)
But I’ve found, in my experience, if I’m not on guard, I slip out of constructive debate and start trading insults that have nothing to do with the objective.
I don’t think I’ve been carful in this respect to you, George, or Sadlup for that matter.
Anyway, Teddyhug in his new thread said some good things that helped jar my thinking in the right direction.
Oh I tell ya, Jeremiah had to remind me here:
Jeremiah 17:9 King James Version (KJV)
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
And JUST when I thought I was this really great man of God...
Let’s get back to the debate, but do it the right way like the prophets and apostles of old in ways that best glorifies God.
James 4:17: If anyone knows the good but doesn't do it, **IT IS SIN FOR THEM**!!
John 12:48: Jesus says, "There is a Judge for the one who does not accept My words, the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the Last Day!"
Revelation 2216,18,18: I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give this testimony for the churches.... I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone **ADDS** anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book {Including eternal hell in Rev 14:9-11}. And if anyone**TAKES WORDS AWAY**{Like *SAD*lup} from this book of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the Tree of Life and iin the Holy City {The New Jerusalem}, which are described in this book!"
These words are part of God's Word and all of God's pastors, teachers, evangelists and prophets are commanded to **PREACH THE WORD**!! And the two **UNPARDONABLE SINS** in Revelation 22:18,19 above are part of God's Word. So if someone teaches on this Christian forum that the words in Revelation are not inspired by God or if they **ADD** or *TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the book of Revelation I have the right to warn that teacher that they may have committed an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**!!
2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you {**CHURCH SAINTS*} wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding *SAD*lup} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.
I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."
John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"
Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"
**WE** ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!
Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"
Now *SAD*lup does not believe in the eternal New Jerusalem with its New Heaven and New Earth as do Jewish Rabbai's and I reminded several times that according to Revelation 22:18,19 it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN** to **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation he said that was garbage. I believe that anyone who teaches the prophecies in the Book of Revelation they should be extremely careful not to **ADD** or **TAKE WORDS AWAY** from the Book of Revelation since it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN!!
Jewish rabbai's and *SAD*lup believe in the coming of an earthly Kingdom of God where the Jews are again God's holy people and there are again animal sacrices for the foguveness of sin, and that there will be 2 thromes for God the Father and King David. Whereas Revelation 22:3 states that there will be only 2 Thrones in the eternal New Jerusalem for the God the Father and the **LAMB** Jesus Christ our great God and Savior!
Revelation 22:3: The throne of God and of the **LAMB** will be in the City!!
Revelation 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes, II will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne!"
Jewish rabbai's and ^SAD*lup do not believe in the New Jerusalem, which is almost 1400 miles long wide and high, with its New Heaven and New Earth. But most Jewish rabbai's **DO NOT KNOW** it is an **UNPARDONABLE SIN**. But **SAD*LUP KNOWS** **IT IS AN UNPARDONABLE SIN** and yet he still keeps teaching it on a **CHRISTIAN FORUM!!
James 4:17: If anyone knows the good they might do and doesn't do it, **IT IS SIN FOR THEM**!