Everyone has been trying to talk to you about your behavior in the Bible Discussion Section. You refuse to listen saying you want us to use "the Living Word of God" to prove our points. Ask and you shall receive:
2Peter 3:16 - ".........uninstructed and unstable distort, [Paul's letters] to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures"
John 10:10 - "The thief comes only in order to steal, kill and destroy...."
Matthew 7:15 - "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits."
Galatians 5:19 - "Now the works of the flesh are evident: ........enmity, strife, jealousy,.....rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy,......"
Luke 6:45 - "The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil"
Matthew 7:22-23 - "On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not .....do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’"
1John 3:4 - "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness."
PROPHETIC7744 THIS ONE IS ESPECIALLY FOR YOU:
Matthew 23:5-7 - "Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; [like your posts] 6 they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7 they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that **FAITH** has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"
Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!
Ephesians 2:6-19: For it is by grace you are saved, through **FAITH**---and this is **NOT** from yourselves, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**---not by works so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!
Titus 2:11-14: For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say "No," to ungodliness and worldly passion and to live self-controlled **UPRIGHT AND GODLY LIVES** in this present age, while we wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR** Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to **REDEEM** and to purify Himself a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, **EAGER TO DO WHAT IS GOOD**!!
**SAD**lup does not believe that Jesus is God and that His blood atones for our sins for if Jesus was just a human being His blood could not make **ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS**!!
Isaiah 53:5,6: But He was pierced for our transgressions; He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us **ALL**! {Both OT and NT SAINTS since the OT animal sacrifices could never take away sins!!!}
Actually *SAD*lup your extremely Satanic teachings are not believed by any of the born again Christian believers in this **CHRISTIAN**forum! Your Jewish doctrines would be gladly accepted on any Jewish Forum but are completely obnoxious in a **CHRISTIAN** forum.
Some of your Jewish beliefs include:
***That our great God and Savior Jesus Christ is not God and His blood does not make Atonement for our sins.
*** That Jesus did not change any OT Laws.
***That Paul was a **WICKED** man and none of his books are inspired by God which is about half of the New Testament.
**That we are saved by **GOOD WORKS** including keeping all of the OT Laws.
Your Satanic beliefs have been rejected by all of the born again Christians on this forum!!
My posts are about 95 percent the Living Word of God which totally refutes all your Satanic teachings.
Oh look, you did manage some childish last minute discussion. I'll politely address it like a responsible adult Christian.
"Actually *SAD*lup your extremely Satanic teachings...."
>I think this is unproductive communication<
"....are not believed by any of the born again Christian believers in this **CHRISTIAN**forum! Your Jewish doctrines would be gladly accepted on any Jewish Forum but are completely obnoxious in a **CHRISTIAN** forum."
> this is entirely untrue. Many born again Messianics hold similar beliefs<
"Some of your Jewish beliefs include:"
>why don't you listen to what I believe rather than telling me what I believe?<
"That our great God and Savior Jesus Christ is not God and His blood does not make Atonement for our sins."
>not true. It's you who describes God as a pagan 'get even' or you 'owe me' type of god. Whereas I understand atonement in light of the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants<
"That Jesus did not change any OT Laws."
>according to Scripture; Anyone NOT teaching according to the Old Testament is immediately disqualified as Messiah. And I believe Jesus is Messiah<
"That Paul was a **WICKED** man and none of his books are inspired by God which is about half of the New Testament."
>I read Paul's letters like Paul intended them to be read. You read Paul's letters as the Catholic Church intends you to read them <
"That we are saved by **GOOD WORKS** including keeping all of the OT Laws."
> Jesus, John, Peter, James and Paul ALL teach good works must accompany faith or faith is useless, dead and leading to destruction<
"Your Satanic beliefs have been rejected by all of the born again Christians on this forum!!"
>actually my beliefs are rejected by the Catholic Church and other paganized Gentile Christians<
"My posts are about 95 percent the Living Word of God which totally refutes all your Satanic teachings"
>you think posting 95% Scripture means something? Satan used 95% Scripture when tempting Jesus in the wilderness!<
Prophetic the problem is IF YOU ARE LISTENING, is you post a doctrine then post VOLUMES of Scripture to support it when the Scripture doesn't support it.
Even if someone wades through the overwhelmingly long post and tries to discuss with you - you refuse.
If this alone wasn't bad enough; you do it repeat off Topic on others threads to stifle any meaningful discussion.
I'm not going to call you "Satanic" as you call others. But I do think the devil is using you to destroy this Bible Discussion Section.
Actually *SAD*lup your extremely Satanic teachings are not believed by any of the born again Christian believers in this **CHRISTIAN**forum! Your Jewish doctrines would be gladly accepted on any Jewish Forum but are completely obnoxious in a **CHRISTIAN** forum.
Some of your Jewish beliefs include:
***That our great God and Savior Jesus Christ is not God and His blood does not make Atonement for our sins.
*** That Jesus did not change any OT Laws.
***That Paul was a **WICKED** man and none of his books are inspired by God which is about half of the New Testament.
**That we are saved by **GOOD WORKS** including keeping all of the OT Laws.
Your Satanic beliefs have been completely rejected by all of the born again Christians on this forum any your sneaky attempts to change the real meaning of many NT Words of God!!
My posts are about 95 percent the Living Word of God which totally refutes all your Satanic teachings.
Galatians 3:23-25: "Before faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that **FAITH** has come, *WE* ARE NO LONGER UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LAW!!"
Romans 3:21-25: But now a righteousness from God, **APART FROM THE LAW**, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes **THROUGH FAITH** in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by **HIS GRACE** through the **REDEMPTION** that came by Christ Jesus. God presented Him as a **SACRIFICE OF ATONEMENT**, **THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD**!!
Ephesians 2:6-19: For it is by grace you are saved, through **FAITH**---and this is **NOT** from yourselves, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**---not by works so that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S HANDIWORK**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!!
Titus 2:11-14: For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say "No," to ungodliness and worldly passion and to live self-controlled **UPRIGHT AND GODLY LIVES** in this present age, while we wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR** Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to **REDEEM** and to purify Himself a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, **EAGER TO DO WHAT IS GOOD**!!
**SAD**lup does not believe that Jesus is God and that His blood atones for our sins for if Jesus was just a human being His blood could not make **ATONEMENT FOR OUR SINS**!!
Isaiah 53:5,6: But He was pierced for our transgressions; He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to our own way; and the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us **ALL**! {Both OT and NT SAINTS since the OT animal sacrifices could never take away sins!!!}
If you're still reading; hopefully the above answers correcting p7744 assertions have prompted some discussion questions in your mind. I know you to be a good Berean and study things out. I know we don't agree on everything but I enjoy discussing with someone who studies. Unfortunately p7744 will probably not allow that to happen. But we can try. If p7744 pulls his usual tricks; I'll probably just go. Dealing with spirits of religiosity is very draining.
**JESUS MADE MANY AMAZING AND TOUGHER CHANGES TO OLD TESTAMENT MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE LAWS**!!
Matthew 5:27,28,31,32 Jesus says, "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery. But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already **COOMMITTED ADULTERY** with her in his heart.
This would include pictures or videos of a woman on Television or the Internet or in pornography!!!
Matthew 19::3-9: Some Pharisees came to Jesus to test Him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" "Haven't you read," Jesus replied, "That at the beginning the Creator made them male and female' and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therfore what God has joined together, let no one separate." Why then the Pharisees asked, did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?" Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because **YOUR HEARTS WERE HARD**, but it was not this way from the beginning. But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery!"
I the Old Testament you could divorce your wife for almost any reason by just giving her a certificate of divorce as per Deuteronomy 24:1,3. Actually it is almost impossible in the New Testament to divorce your wife if she is a believer, since Jesus also said in Matthew 18:22 that you should forgive your brother or wife not 7 times but 77 times which can also be treanslated 7 times 70 times!
And according to I Corinthians 7:12-15 you can only divorce an unbelieving wife if she leaves you even though you have been a good husband.
I Corinthians 7:12,13,15: If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, **HE MUST NOT DIVORCE HER**. And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, **SHE MUST NOT DIVORCE HIM**!... But if an unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances. God has called us to live in peace!
In the Old Testament King David had 8 wives and Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines??? But in the New Testament you can have only **ONE WIFE**!!As per I Corinthians 7:2; ! Timothy 3:2,12 and Titus 1:6.
While **SAD**lup makes the ridiculous claim that Jesus made no changes in OT LAW????
There’s no use arguing with a fool. He only rages and scoffs, and tempers flare.
Proverbs 26
Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are. 5 Be sure to answer the foolish arguments of fools, or they will become wise in their own estimation. 6 Trusting a fool to convey a message is like cutting off one’s feet or drinking poison! 7 A proverb in the mouth of a fool is as useless as a paralyzed leg. 8 Honoring a fool is as foolish as tying a stone to a slingshot. 9 A proverb in the mouth of a fool is like a thorny branch brandished by a drunk. 10 An employer who hires a fool or a bystander is like an archer who shoots at random. 11 As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his foolishness. 12 There is more hope for fools than for people who think they are wise.
