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**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 22 Jun, 2019 04:12 PM
The Roman Catholic Church was the first denomination to adopt the doctrine of the trinity in AD 325 which stated that God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ and the holy spirit are **ONE**, **CO-EQUAL** and **EACH** is **GOD**???
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT OR 7 SPIRITS ARE **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Revelation 3:1,14;19-21: Jesus says, "These are the words of Him **WHO HOLDS THE 7 SPIRITS OF GOD**... These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Ruler of God's creation... Those whom I love I discipline. So be earnest and repent. Here I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I {MY SPIRIT} will come in and eat with him and he with Me. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with Me on **MY THRONE**, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on **HIS THRONE**!!"
These are the **ONLY 2 THRONES** in the eternal New Jerusalem as per Revelation 22:3 below!!!
It is also very interesting to note that there will only be **TWO THRONES** for Jesus and His Father in the eternal heavenly New Jerusalem:
Revelation 22:3: **THE THRONE OF **GOD** AND OF THE LAMB** will be in the City!!! {The New Jerusalem} and His servants will serve Him.
Why doesn't the holy spirit or 7 spirits of God have a **THRONE** if he is God??? Why will there only be **TWO THRONES** in the eternal heavenly New Jerusalem??????
Titus 2:13:**WE wait for the **BLESSED HOPE--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD** and Savior, Jesus Christ!!
Jesus is called **GOD** 7 times in God's Word and is called **LORD** over 200 times in the New Testament, and is **WORSHIPED** 12 times in the New Testament, and God's Word tells us to only **WORSHIP GOD**!! The holy spirit or 7 spirits of God are **NEVER CALLED GOD OR LORD** and is **NEVER WORSHIPED** in God's word.
In all of Paul's letters except Hebrews and I Thessalonians Paul gives the exact same greeting to God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ in Romans 1:7; I Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2; Philippians 1:2; Colossians 1:2 2 Thessalonians 1:1; I Timothy 1:2; 2 Timothy 1:2; Titus 1:4; Philemon 1:3: where the holy spirit is **NEVER MENTIONED** in the introduction in any of the these letters in God's Word!!
"Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord!!" Is the exact same introduction given in Romans 1:7; I Corinthians 1:3; 2 Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:2; Colossians 1:2; 2 Thessalonians 1:1; I Timothy 1:2; 2 Timothy 1:2; Titus 1:4; and Philemon 1:3!
And in I Thessalonians 1:1 and Paul adds: "To the church of the Thessalonians in God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!"
It is interesting to note that the holy spirit is **NEVER MENTIONED** in any of these introductions in any of Paul's letters and in all the introductions after Paul's letters!!
And in Hebrews 1:1-3,6,8; Paul is inspired to write: "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of His being, sustaining all things by His powerful word... God says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**!!" and about His Son God says, "Your throne, **O GOD** will last for ever and ever!!"
The holy spirit is also never mentioned in any the following letter introductions!!
John 1:1-4: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word {**JESUS CHRIST**} was with God {The **FATHER**}, and the Word was God, He was with God {The **FATHER**} in the beginning. Through Him all things were made, without Him norhing was made that has been made. In Him was Life, and that Life was the Light of all mankind! {Why isn't the holy spirit mentioned??}
John 1:18: No one has ever seen God, **BUT THE ONE AND ONLY SON**!! who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!! {Why isn't the holy spirit mentioned??}
James 1:1: James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ!
2 Peter 1:2: Grace and peace be yours through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.
I John 1:3: Our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son, Jesus Christ!
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Jude 1:1: To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ!
Revelation 1:1: The Revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave Him!
Revelation 22:16: Jesus says, "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!"
Revelation 14:1: Then I looked, and there before me was the **LAMB**, standing on Mount Zion and with Him 144,000 who had **HIS NAME** and His **FATHER'S NAME** written on their foreheads!! {If the holy spirit is **CO-EQUAL** to God the Father and God the Son why wasn't the holy spirit's name written on their foreheads????}
We should praise and worship God the Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ **ONLY** for we are commanded to **ONLY WORSHIP GOD** as per:
Revelation 22:8,9: I, John, am the one who saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to **WORSHIP** at the feet of the **ANGEL** {Or **MESSENGER**} who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this book!. **WORSHIP GOD**!!"
Revelation 19:9,10: Then the **ANGEL** {Or **MESSENGER**} said to me, "Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the **LAMB** And he added, "these are the true **WORDS OF GOD**!" At this I fell at his feet to **WORSHIP HIM**, but he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. **WORSHIP GOD**!"
**AND EVERYONE IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH FOLLOWED THESE COMMANDS TO **ONLY WORSHIP GOD** IN REVELATION 5:8-14 BELOW**!!!!
NOTE: Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is called the **LAMB** 30 times in Revelation!
Revelation 5:8-14: The four living creatures and the 24 elders fell down before the **LAMB**. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the **PRAYERS OF GOD'S PEOPLE**. And they sang a new song, saying, "You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because You were slain, and with Your blood You purchased for **GOD** {The FATHER**} persons from everytribe and language and people and nation. You have made them to be a Kingdom and priests to serve our **GOD** {The **FATHER**}. Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands,and ten thousand times ten thousand {A hundred million!}. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. In a loud voice they were saying: "Wortrhy is the **LAMB**, who was slain, to receive power and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!" Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying: To Him who sits on the throne {The **FATHER**} and to the **LAMB** be praise and honor and glory and power for ever and ever!" The 4 Living Beings said, **AMEN,** and the Elders fell down and worshiped!!
And we should pray without ceasing only to **GOD THE FATHER** as **JESUS** commands in Matthew 6:5-15 and Luke11:1-4; in Jesus name as per Colossians 3:17: Whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the **NAME OF THE LORD JESUS**, giving thanks to **GOD THE FATHER** through Him!
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 22 Jun, 2019 10:52 PM
Balaam played games like you. You think Scripture is a math equation where you can solve for the unknown! Who taught you this hogwash? You have misplaced your trust in man's systematic theology. You were wrong before you even started!
A real prophet tells the truth. He doesn't regurgitate man made doctrines.
A real prophet would tell you it doesn't matter if you know God is One, two or three, but who you trust!
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 23 Jun, 2019 05:14 AM
Now **SAD**lup claims that Jesus Christ is not our great **GOD AND SAVIOR** and that His blood sacrifice does not save us ???
**BUT WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY**??
**IS JESUS OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**??
John 20:27-29: Then He said to Thomas, "Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe!" Thomas said to him, "My Lord and **MY GOD**!" Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed!"
Isaiah 9:6: For unto us a Child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on His shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor and **MIGHTY GOD**!
Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign. The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and will call Him **IMMANUEL**! {Which means **GOD WITH US**!}
Matthew 1:20-23: The angel of the Lord said to Joseph, "Take Mary home as your wife because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She is to give birth to a Son, and you are to give Him the name Jesus which means **GOD IS HELP**, because He will save His people from their sins. All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet {Isaiah 7:14 above} "The virgin will conceive and give birth to a Son, and they will call Him **IMMANUEL** which means **GOD WITH US**!
John 1:18: No one has ever seen God, but the One and only Son, who is **HIMSELF GOD** and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known!
John 14:6,7: Jesus says, "I am the **WAY** the **TRUTH** and the **LIFE**. No one comes to the Father except through Me. If you really knew Me, you will know the Father as well. From now on, you do know Him and have **SEEN HIM**!"
**GOD'S WORD COMMANDS THAT WE SHOULD ONLY WORSHIP GOD**!!
Matthew 4:9,10: Satan said to Jesus, "All this I will give you if you bow down and worship me." Jesus said to him, Away from Me Satan! For it is written, '**WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD** and serve Him only!
Revelation 19:9,10: The angel said to me, "Write this: **BLESSED** are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the **LAMB**!" And he added, "These are the true words of God!" At this I fell at his feet to **WORSHIP** him, But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus! **WORSHIP GOD**! For it is the spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus!"
Revelation 22:8,9: I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "**DON'T DO THAT** A am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who **KEEP THE WORDS** of this scroll. **WORSHIP GOD**!!
Hebrews 1:6,8: When God brings His firstborn into the world He says, "Let all God's angels **WORSHIP HIM**.... About the Son He says, "Your throne, **O GOD**, will last for ever and ever, a scepter of justice will be the scepter of **YOUR KINGDOM**!"
Matthew 28:18-20: Jesus says, "**ALL AUTHORITY**in heaven and on earth has been given to **ME**. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations... and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always!"
**JESUS CHRIST, OUR GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**
Jesus is **WORSHIPED** many times in God's Word in Matthew 2:2,8,11; 14:33; 28:9,17 Luke 24:52 John 9:38 and Revelation 5:11-14 and !5:4!!
Matthew 2:10,11: When the Wise Men saw the star, they were overjoyed. On coming to the house, they saw the Child with His mother Mary, and they bowed down and **WORSHIPED HIM**!
Matthew 14:33; Then those who were in the boat **WORSHPED HIM**!!
Matthew 28:8,9: So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell His disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," He said. They came to Him, clasped His feet and **WORSHIPED HIM**!
Matthew 28:16,17: Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When the saw Him, they **WORSHIPED HIM**!
There are some who completely ignore these Scriptures and claim that Jesus is not God because he said that the Father is greater than me in John 14:28 and that the Father told Him what to say as per John 14:23,24: Jesus says, "Anyone who loves Me will obey My teaching. My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love Me will not obey My teaching. The words you hear are not My own; they belong to the Father who sent Me."
John 9:37,38: Jesus said, "You have now seen Him; in fact, He is the one speaking with you!" Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he **WORSHIPED HIM**!
NOTE: Jesus is called the **LAMB** 30 times in the book of Revelation!
Revelation 5:13,14: Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, an all that is In them, saying "To Him who sits on the throne and to the **LAMB** be praise and honor and glory and power for ever and ever!" The 4 living creatures said, "Amen," and the elders fell down and **WORSHIPED**!
Revelation 17:14; They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will overcome them because He is **LORD** of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be **HIS** **CALLED**, *CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!!
Titus 2:13,14: We wait for the **BLESSED HOPE**--the glorious appearing of our **GREAT GOD AND SAVIOR**, Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify a people that are **HIS VERY OWN**, eager to do what is good!!
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 23 Jun, 2019 08:20 AM
Non-Prophetic;
You're just babbling on and on, never listening never learning. Just like the Pagans who think many words will make them heard. Scripture is not your personal toy box of play dough to twist and shape into what you want.
You FAIL to answer the most SIMPLE questions yet you expect to be believed on deep complex theological issues that angels dare to peer into?
Only an the foolish would give heed to such a person!
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 23 Jun, 2019 08:21 AM
The Roman Catholic church does not teach from the Bible. Lease not KJV, NKJV. NASB.
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 25 Jun, 2019 06:11 AM
You people brag about not following the Catholic Church.
Yet you claim your Sabbath is on Sunday per the Catholic Church
You follow the Scriptures complied into the Bible by the Catholic Church
**DOES THE WORD OF GOD AGREE WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS **CO-EQUAL** WITH GOD THE FATHER AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST**??
Posted : 25 Jun, 2019 06:59 AM
The New Covenant of Jesus Christ clearly teaches that **EVERY DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY** especially **TODAY**
