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Assurance of salvation: Are you sure that you are saved!
Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 05:07 PM

Hello everyone, please watch this video.

I do not post many videos, but this one is worth watching.





https://youtu.be/Qsjv4lx991s

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Posted : 11 Dec, 2018 08:23 PM

John 15:1-4: Jesus says, "I am the true vine, and My Father is the gardener. He **CUTS OFF** every branch in Me that bears **NO FRUIT**, while every branch that does bear fruit He prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. Remain in Me, and I also will remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches.**IF** you remain in Me and I in you will bear much fruit; apart from Me you can do nothing!!"



John 15:16: Jesus says, "You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit--fruit that will last!!



Matthew 13:20-23: Jesus says, "The seed falling on the rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly **FALL AWAY**. {gracenotworkssaves and the above video claim they are still going to heaven??}The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it **UNFRUITFUL**.{gracenotworkssaves claims they are still going to heaven??} But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hear the and understands it. this is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown!!"



Matthew 21:43: Jesus says to Israel, "The Kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a people who will produce **FRUIT**!"



Revelation 17:14: They will wage war against the **LAMB**, but the **LAMB** will triumph over them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings--and with Him will be His **CALLED**, **CHOSEN** and **FAITHFUL** followers!



And so those who are **CALLED** **CHOSEN and **FAITHFUL** produce **MUCH FRUIT**!! And those who are not **CALLED** CHOSEN** AND **FAITHFUL** will **FALL AWAY and **BE CUT OFF**!!



Ephesians 2:8,9: For it is by **GRACE** you have been saved, through **FAITH**�and this **NOT FROM YOURSELVES**, it is the **GIFT OF GOD**�not by works. So that no one can boast. For we are **GOD'S WORKMANSHIP**, created in Christ Jesus to do **GOOD WORKS**, which God prepared in advance for us to do!



Hebrews 5:9 Jesus became the source of salvation for **ALL WHO **OBEY** HIM**!



I John 2:1-5: Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. We know that we have come to know Him **IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDS**! Whoever says, "I know Him," but does not do what He commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. But if anyone **OBEYS HIS WORD**, love for God is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in Him!



John 14:21,23,24: Jesus says, "Whoever has My commands and **KEEPS THEM** is the one who loves Me... Anyone who loves Me will **OBEY MY TEACHING**, My Father will love them, and We will come to them and make Our home with them.



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Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 03:45 AM

Thanks mr david you confirmed you do not answer questions, so you must be more correct than the one who answers questions for you. But answering for you, not one of those scriptures showed how we are not sanctified and prepared before the return of Christ.



"Adam is commanded by Jesus to ask forgiveness as he forgives others per the Lord’s Prayer. But Adam disagrees with God and insists he is perfect and sinless. "



False statement, we are taught to ask for forgiveness before Christ forgave us on the cross, then receiving the Holy Spirit are not the same as when we cannot cease from sin as per the first covenant that is replaced and perfect now.



"Adam erroneously selects passages of scripture, that seem to Adam, to teach Christians do not sin when they become Christians. But these passages teach that true Christians do not “continue” or “abide” in their sin as an unbroken practice in the same way they used to practice sin before they were saved. "



Other lie, as david clearly does not even read the scriptures I studied to give all teachings from God for our learning and comfort, he also lies to say what the passages say, without going into any detail of them whatsoever, a token of deceiver.



"Adam also ignores passages of scripture that clearly teach sin will have less and less influence in the lives of true Christians as they grow in Christ but they will never be totally free from the influence of sin in this life until they die."



Other lie, how do I ignore what david does not attempt to even show? This person says the scriptures clearly show what his opinion says, and does not show them for that clarity, if not this guy would show what he claims and insists a person is in a corner hen it is him that is cornered.



"Paul discusses this battle between the Christian and his indwelling sin in Romans 7. "



Now this deceiver mentions a scripture, which is his mistake, as now he will be reminded of Romans 7 AND Romans 8 TOGETHER.



WE WERE IN THE FLESH(SPEAKING OF OUR PAST TENSE) BRINGING FRUIT TO DEATH, BUT NOW(NOW IT IS PRESENT TENSE CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT) SERVING IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT(NOT IN OLDNESS ANY MORE THIS IS THE NEW TIME AND CHANGE)...



Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.



Paul continues of the PAST. PAUL WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW AND THE COMMANDMENT CAME TO SIN NOT, AND HE DIED, AS PAUL IS SPEAKING ABOUT US ALL DYING IN SINS. THE COMMANDMENT TO SIN NOT GAVE DEATH TO US ALL AS WE COULD NOT OBEY IT IN THE FIRST COVENANT. BUT THE LAW IS HOLY AND GOOD. UNABLE TO OBEY THE COMMAND TO SIN NOT AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, CAUSING DEATH FOR DISOBEDIENCE BY THE GOOD LAW OF GOD, AS THE LAW IS SPIRITUAL BUT MAN IS CARNAL. WE WOULD OBEY GOD BUT CANT FIND THE STRENGTH TO DO IT, (THE JEWS ARE EXAMPLE OF THIS STILL IN ORIGINAL FIRST COVENANT TODAY) WE WOULD RATHER NOT DO THE SINS IN THAT FIRST COVENANT CONSENTING THAT IT IS A GOOD JUST LAW, SIN DWELLING IN US INSTEAD OF THE NEW COVENANT OF GOD DWELLING IN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HOW TO PERFORM WE FOUND NOT, DOING EVIL THAT WE WANT TO NOT DO, BRINGING US TO CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN IN THE MEMBERS BELONGING TO THAT FIRST FAULTY COVENANT. WRETCHED AND NEEDING TO BE DELIVERED FROM THAT BODY OF DEATH?



Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?



PRESENT TENSE, THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION, AS BEFORE THERE IS CONDEMNATION, IN CHRIST JESUS WE WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, NOW FREE FROM THAT LAW OF SIN AND DEATH, WE WERE WEAK THROUGH THE FLESH, AND CHRIST CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH, AND NOW THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW OF CHRIST IS FULFILLED N US, (Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.) SOME ARE AFTER THE FLESH AND THEY DO ALL WAYS OF THE FLESH AND OTHERS ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT AND THEY DO THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, EACH OBEYS WITHOUT STRUGGLE TO THEIR MASTERS, SIN OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH, WHICH NEVER CAN OBEY THE LAW OF GOD, THOSE NOT SPIRIT CANNOT PLEASE GOD OBEYING HIS RIGHT WAYS, AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, YOUR BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN, FOR IF YOU LIVE AFTER THE FLESH YOU SHALL DIE, AS EXPLAINED ALREADY IN ROMANS 7, OR THROUGH THE SPIRIT DO MORTIFY(MAKE DEAD ND FINISHED) THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY..



Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.







IN CORRECT ORDER IS ROMANS 6 FIRST, EXPLAINING AS ALL SAYS, YE YIELDED COMPLETELY YOUR BODY TO ONLY UNCLEANNESS AND INIQUITY, NOW YOU CHANGED COMPLETELY TO YIELD THEM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS TO HOLINESS. WHEN SERVING SIN IN THE FIRST COVENANT YOU HAVE ZERO RIGHTEOUSNESS. NO FRUIT AT ALL AND NOW ASHAMED NOW CONFESSING AND NEVER ENDING THE EVIL. NOW CHRIST MAKES US FREE FROM THAT SIN TO SERVE GOD AND INSTEAD OF EVIL FRUIT IT IS FRUIT FIT FOR GOD(A GOOD TREE CANT HAVE EVIL FRUIT ND AN EVIL TREE CANT HAVE GOOD FRUIT) ...



Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.



20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.



21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.



22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.



23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.





WALK IN THE SPIRIT TO NOT STRUGGLE IN THE FLESH WHEN UNABLE TO DO THE THINGS WE WOULD BEING CARNAL IN THE FIRST COVENANT CURSED IS HE WHO CONTINUES NOT IN ALL THE WORDS OF THE LAW TO DO THEM. WE CANNOT DO THE THINGS WE WOULD, AS FLESH AND SPIRIT ARE CONTRARY TO EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY BE AND SERVE ONE, THEY WHO DO THOSE WORKS OF THE FLESH WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BUT TEMPERANCE LONGSUFFERING AND LOVE BREAKS NO LAW AND THEY WHO ARE CHRISTS HAVE CRUCIFIED THEIR BODY FLESH WITH ALL AND NY AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..



Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

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Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 05:12 AM

I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands.



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



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Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 08:39 AM

George l viewed the site.



I always appreciate godly men who represent opposing views accurately, I think the men in the clip tried their best. I learned some things. The Calvinist view and the Traditionalists view seem to overlap in certain places but Arminianism is so obviously far off target they are in effect shooting backwards



Debates are also helpful when good men can question each other like “iron sharpens iron”. Leighton didn’t perform his best in his debate with James White in another clip and he seems to have admitted as much on stage. James White clearly held the upper hand by sticking to the agreed upon topic while Leighton was all over the place introducing foreign material not relevant to the agreed upon topic.



Nevertheless, Leighton and his guest in this last clip provided some interesting insights

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Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 09:59 AM

Sorry littledavid, but you are answered, you turn Christ into the minister of sin to suit your unholiness, giving Romans 7 as your excuse has not worked, and never will work, and neither you nor your twin prophetic can show how Romans 7 supports your excuses.



I did answer on the church, it is listed here again.



The question is already answered David, there is no scripture showing we are not sanctified and prepared for when Christ returns, not one in the whole bible, all scripture shows we are, hence the big lists I have been showing and will continue to show compared to your zero, even though you claim Richard showed ample.



I do submit to the biblical church:



1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;



2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.



Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.



Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;



Do you see any of the scriptures below showing we are not sanctified on this earth in preparation for the return of Christ? Or only you are entitled to ask questions?



"Don’t you have a qualified pastor or teacher you can learn from? As a “perfect” person, surely you would obey scripture commanding believers to meet together and submit to biblically quailed elders.



Do you obey God’s inspired word by meeting together with other believers who can encourage you?



Are you aware there’s a verse that says God has provided some men as pastors and teachers to prepare Gods people for works of service?? Do you know where this verse is found?? Do you believe that **you** have the responsibility to playfully find these men and learn from them??"



Your opinion shows both your way and your teaching is that all people on this planet must listen to yourself and all the self appointed teacher/pastors in this life. Coming together with encouragement in that direction. Insisting we need to LEARN from these men, pastors and teachers.



Now everybody who does see the scripture here, can see with me, God gave the Apostles first, then prophets, then evangelists, and lastly the pastors and teachers. The apostles are gone and the prophets, all that remains are the ones who say they are your pastor and your teacher. But all that was originally given was for the perfecting of the saints, till we all came in the unity of the same faith as those apostles and prophets, unto a perfect man, the measure of the stature of Christ, to be no more carried about by the craftiness of men who wish to teach us, with their winds of doctrine, to deceive, but we grow up into Him in all things....



Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:



We do not learn Christ as the coveteous Gentiles, as we hear Him and we be taught by Him, it is we who put off the former conversation of the old man, and i we who be renewed in the spirit of our mind, and it is we who put in the new man, created in righteousness and true holiness through God(through no men) an it we who speak truth with our neighbour, for we are the same members as the ones you insist we must learn from..



Ephesians 4:20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.



Hebrews 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.



Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.



1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.



1 Corinthians 4:13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.

14 I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

15 For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.



1 Corinthians 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.



Thanks mr david you confirmed you do not answer questions, so you must be more correct than the one who answers questions for you. But answering for you, not one of those scriptures showed how we are not sanctified and prepared before the return of Christ.



"Adam is commanded by Jesus to ask forgiveness as he forgives others per the Lord’s Prayer. But Adam disagrees with God and insists he is perfect and sinless. "



False statement, we are taught to ask for forgiveness before Christ forgave us on the cross, then receiving the Holy Spirit are not the same as when we cannot cease from sin as per the first covenant that is replaced and perfect now.



"Adam erroneously selects passages of scripture, that seem to Adam, to teach Christians do not sin when they become Christians. But these passages teach that true Christians do not “continue” or “abide” in their sin as an unbroken practice in the same way they used to practice sin before they were saved. "



Other lie, as david clearly does not even read the scriptures I studied to give all teachings from God for our learning and comfort, he also lies to say what the passages say, without going into any detail of them whatsoever, a token of� deceiver.



"Adam also ignores passages of scripture that clearly teach sin will have less and less influence in the lives of true Christians as they grow in Christ but they will never be totally free from the influence of sin in this life until they die."



Other lie, how do I ignore what david does not attempt to even show? This person says the scriptures clearly show what his opinion says, and does not show them for that clarity, if not this guy would show what he claims and insists a person is in a corner when it is him that is cornered.



"Paul discusses this battle between the Christian and his indwelling sin in Romans 7. "



Now this deceiver mentions a scripture, which is his mistake, as now he will be reminded of Romans 7 AND Romans 8 TOGETHER.



WE WERE IN THE FLESH(SPEAKING OF OUR PAST TENSE) BRINGING FRUIT TO DEATH, BUT NOW(NOW IT IS PRESENT TENSE CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT) SERVING IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT(NOT IN OLDNESS ANY MORE THIS IS THE NEW TIME AND CHANGE)...



Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.



Paul continues of the PAST. PAUL WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW AND THE COMMANDMENT CAME TO SIN NOT, AND HE DIED, AS PAUL IS SPEAKING ABOUT US ALL DYING IN SINS. THE COMMANDMENT TO SIN NOT GAVE DEATH TO US ALL AS WE COULD NOT OBEY IT IN THE FIRST COVENANT. BUT THE LAW IS HOLY AND GOOD. UNABLE TO OBEY THE COMMAND TO SIN NOT AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, CAUSING DEATH FOR DISOBEDIENCE BY THE GOOD LAW OF GOD, AS THE LAW IS SPIRITUAL BUT MAN IS CARNAL. WE WOULD OBEY GOD BUT CANT FIND THE STRENGTH TO DO IT, (THE JEWS ARE EXAMPLE OF THIS STILL IN ORIGINAL FIRST COVENANT TODAY) WE WOULD RATHER NOT DO THE SINS IN THAT FIRST COVENANT CONSENTING THAT IT IS A GOOD JUST LAW, SIN DWELLING IN US INSTEAD OF THE NEW COVENANT OF GOD DWELLING IN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HOW TO PERFORM WE FOUND NOT, DOING EVIL THAT WE WANT TO NOT DO, BRINGING US TO CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN IN THE MEMBERS BELONGING TO THAT FIRST FAULTY COVENANT. WRETCHED AND NEEDING TO BE DELIVERED FROM THAT BODY OF DEATH?



Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?



PRESENT TENSE, THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION, AS BEFORE THERE IS CONDEMNATION, IN CHRIST JESUS WE WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, NOW FREE FROM THAT LAW OF SIN AND DEATH, WE WERE WEAK THROUGH THE FLESH, AND CHRIST CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH, AND NOW THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW OF CHRIST IS FULFILLED N US, (Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.) SOME ARE AFTER THE FLESH AND THEY DO ALL WAYS OF THE FLESH AND OTHERS ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT AND THEY DO THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, EACH OBEYS WITHOUT STRUGGLE TO THEIR MASTERS, SIN OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH, WHICH NEVER CAN OBEY THE LAW OF GOD, THOSE NOT SPIRIT CANNOT PLEASE GOD OBEYING HIS RIGHT WAYS, AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, YOUR BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN, FOR IF YOU LIVE AFTER THE FLESH YOU SHALL DIE, AS EXPLAINED ALREADY IN ROMANS 7, OR THROUGH THE SPIRIT DO MORTIFY(MAKE DEAD ND FINISHED) THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY..



Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.







IN CORRECT ORDER IS ROMANS 6 FIRST, EXPLAINING AS ALL SAYS, YE YIELDED COMPLETELY YOUR BODY TO ONLY UNCLEANNESS AND INIQUITY, NOW YOU CHANGED COMPLETELY TO YIELD THEM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS TO HOLINESS. WHEN SERVING SIN IN THE FIRST COVENANT YOU HAVE ZERO RIGHTEOUSNESS. NO FRUIT AT ALL AND NOW ASHAMED NOW CONFESSING AND NEVER ENDING THE EVIL. NOW CHRIST MAKES US FREE FROM THAT SIN TO SERVE GOD AND INSTEAD OF EVIL FRUIT IT IS FRUIT FIT FOR GOD(A GOOD TREE CANT HAVE EVIL FRUIT ND AN EVIL TREE CANT HAVE GOOD FRUIT) ...



Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.



20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.



21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.



22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.



23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.





WALK IN THE SPIRIT TO NOT STRUGGLE IN THE FLESH WHEN UNABLE TO DO THE THINGS WE WOULD BEING CARNAL IN THE FIRST COVENANT CURSED IS HE WHO CONTINUES NOT IN ALL THE WORDS OF THE LAW TO DO THEM. WE CANNOT DO THE THINGS WE WOULD, AS FLESH AND SPIRIT ARE CONTRARY TO EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY BE AND SERVE ONE, THEY WHO DO THOSE WORKS OF THE FLESH WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BUT TEMPERANCE LONGSUFFERING AND LOVE BREAKS NO LAW AND THEY WHO ARE CHRISTS HAVE CRUCIFIED THEIR BODY FLESH WITH ALL AND NY AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..



Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



Dear children walk in love, uncleanness fornication covetousness is not named once among saints, as those men have no inheritence in the Kingdom of Christ, deceivers try to insist they do, but the church is sanctified and cleansed, by the Holy word, and only presented to Christ in glory without spot or blemish but is HOLY..



Ephesians 5:Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.



Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.



Mark 3:5 And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.



Iron does not sharpen iron from men, it is the councel of the Lord that stands..the scriptures testify of Christ not of you littledavid and your friends..



John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.



John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.



John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.



Proverbs 18:24 A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly: and there is a friend that sticketh closer than a brother.



Proverbs 19:21 There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand.



Proverbs 27:9 Ointment and perfume rejoice the heart: so doth the sweetness of a man's friend by hearty counsel.



Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.



18 Whoso keepeth the fig tree shall eat the fruit thereof: so he that waiteth on his master shall be honoured.



19 As in water face answereth to face, so the heart of man to man.



1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.



2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.



Matthew 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

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Posted : 12 Dec, 2018 12:01 PM

I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands of God!!!



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



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I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands of God!!!



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



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LittleDavid says prophetic is correct in his doctrine, BUT, prophetic confesses no sins, answers nothing, is not approachable, just a cymbal clanging away,1 Corinthians 13:Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.



So too is LittleDavid not confessing his sins, but says we are told to do this, but does not do it? All talk and deception, because they cannot confess and continue doing what God testifies we will be ashamed of..



Romans 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.



"Paul discusses this battle between the Christian and his indwelling sin in Romans 7. "



Now this deceiver mentions a scripture, which is his mistake, as now he will be reminded of Romans 7 AND Romans 8 TOGETHER.



WE WERE IN THE FLESH(SPEAKING OF OUR PAST TENSE) BRINGING FRUIT TO DEATH, BUT NOW(NOW IT IS PRESENT TENSE CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT) SERVING IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT(NOT IN OLDNESS ANY MORE THIS IS THE NEW TIME AND CHANGE)...



Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.



Paul continues of the PAST. PAUL WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW AND THE COMMANDMENT CAME TO SIN NOT, AND HE DIED, AS PAUL IS SPEAKING ABOUT US ALL DYING IN SINS. THE COMMANDMENT TO SIN NOT GAVE DEATH TO US ALL AS WE COULD NOT OBEY IT IN THE FIRST COVENANT. BUT THE LAW IS HOLY AND GOOD. UNABLE TO OBEY THE COMMAND TO SIN NOT AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, CAUSING DEATH FOR DISOBEDIENCE BY THE GOOD LAW OF GOD, AS THE LAW IS SPIRITUAL BUT MAN IS CARNAL. WE WOULD OBEY GOD BUT CANT FIND THE STRENGTH TO DO IT, (THE JEWS ARE EXAMPLE OF THIS STILL IN ORIGINAL FIRST COVENANT TODAY) WE WOULD RATHER NOT DO THE SINS IN THAT FIRST COVENANT CONSENTING THAT IT IS A GOOD JUST LAW, SIN DWELLING IN US INSTEAD OF THE NEW COVENANT OF GOD DWELLING IN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HOW TO PERFORM WE FOUND NOT, DOING EVIL THAT WE WANT TO NOT DO, BRINGING US TO CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN IN THE MEMBERS BELONGING TO THAT FIRST FAULTY COVENANT. WRETCHED AND NEEDING TO BE DELIVERED FROM THAT BODY OF DEATH?



Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?



PRESENT TENSE, THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION, AS BEFORE THERE IS CONDEMNATION, IN CHRIST JESUS WE WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, NOW FREE FROM THAT LAW OF SIN AND DEATH, WE WERE WEAK THROUGH THE FLESH, AND CHRIST CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH, AND NOW THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW OF CHRIST IS FULFILLED N US, (Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.) SOME ARE AFTER THE FLESH AND THEY DO ALL WAYS OF THE FLESH AND OTHERS ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT AND THEY DO THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, EACH OBEYS WITHOUT STRUGGLE TO THEIR MASTERS, SIN OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH, WHICH NEVER CAN OBEY THE LAW OF GOD, THOSE NOT SPIRIT CANNOT PLEASE GOD OBEYING HIS RIGHT WAYS, AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, YOUR BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN, FOR IF YOU LIVE AFTER THE FLESH YOU SHALL DIE, AS EXPLAINED ALREADY IN ROMANS 7, OR THROUGH THE SPIRIT DO MORTIFY(MAKE DEAD ND FINISHED) THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY..



Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10 AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.







IN CORRECT ORDER IS ROMANS 6 FIRST, EXPLAINING AS ALL SAYS, YE YIELDED COMPLETELY YOUR BODY TO ONLY UNCLEANNESS AND INIQUITY, NOW YOU CHANGED COMPLETELY TO YIELD THEM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS TO HOLINESS. WHEN SERVING SIN IN THE FIRST COVENANT YOU HAVE ZERO RIGHTEOUSNESS. NO FRUIT AT ALL AND NOW ASHAMED NOW CONFESSING AND NEVER ENDING THE EVIL. NOW CHRIST MAKES US FREE FROM THAT SIN TO SERVE GOD AND INSTEAD OF EVIL FRUIT IT IS FRUIT FIT FOR GOD(A GOOD TREE CANT HAVE EVIL FRUIT ND AN EVIL TREE CANT HAVE GOOD FRUIT) ...



Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.



20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.



21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.



22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.



23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.





WALK IN THE SPIRIT TO NOT STRUGGLE IN THE FLESH WHEN UNABLE TO DO THE THINGS WE WOULD BEING CARNAL IN THE FIRST COVENANT CURSED IS HE WHO CONTINUES NOT IN ALL THE WORDS OF THE LAW TO DO THEM. WE CANNOT DO THE THINGS WE WOULD, AS FLESH AND SPIRIT ARE CONTRARY TO EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY BE AND SERVE ONE, THEY WHO DO THOSE WORKS OF THE FLESH WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BUT TEMPERANCE LONGSUFFERING AND LOVE BREAKS NO LAW AND THEY WHO ARE CHRISTS HAVE CRUCIFIED THEIR BODY FLESH WITH ALL AND NY AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..



Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.



Dear children walk in love, uncleanness fornication covetousness is not named once among saints, as those men have no inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ, deceivers try to insist they do, but the church is sanctified and cleansed, by the Holy word, and only presented to Christ in glory without spot or blemish but is HOLY..



Ephesians 5:Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS COMETH THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THE CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE.



Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.



2 Peter 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. SPOTS THEY ARE AND BLEMISHES, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

14 Having eyes full of adultery, AND THAT CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:



1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath CEASED FROM SIN;

2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.



1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to THE DOCTRINE WHICH IS ACCORDING TO GODLINESS;



4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,



5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, SUPPOSING THAT GAIN IS GODLINESS: from such withdraw thyself.



COVERING OUR SINS IS NOT HAVING THEM CLEANED, FORSAKING THEM IS BEING HEALED, UNLESS IT IS NOT TOLD TO BE PRESENTED FAULTLESS BEFORE THE THRONE OF CHRIST..



Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.



1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.



James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.



Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and TO PRESENT YOU FAULTLESS BEFORE THE PRESENCE OF HIS GLORY with exceeding joy,



Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT FAULT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.

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Posted : 13 Dec, 2018 07:58 AM

Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man does not live on bread alone, but on **EVERY WORD FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD**!"



I John 1:6: Whoever claims to live in Him **MUST LIVE AS JESUS DID**!!



John 15:12: Jesus says, "**MY COMMAND** is this: Love each other **AS I HAVE LOVED YOU**!!"



Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands of God!!!



While Adam7777 claims to be sinless and **PERFECT** it is interesting to note that Adam7777 has **SEPARATED** from his wife and therefore has not been a **PERFECT SINLESS HUSBAND** for God's word states in Matthew 19:5,6: Jesus says, "A man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and they shall become one flesh, they are no longer two, but one flash. Therefore what God has joined together let no man {Like Adam7777} separate!!"



And so if Adam7777's separated wife is a Christian they are both living continually in sin for we are commanded to forgive our brother or sister or wife in Christ not 7 times but 70 times 7 times! And if Adam7777 married an unsaved woman it is also terrible sin in the NT!!



I John 1:8-10: If we claim to be without sin {Like Adam7777}, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned {Like Adam7777} we make Him out to be a liar and His Word is not in us!



Luke 11:1-4: The **DISCIPLES** asked Jesus, "Lord teach as to pray." Jesus replied **TO HIS DISCIPLES**, "When you pray, say: '**FATHER**, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come. Give us each day our **DAILY** bread. **FORGIVE US OUR SINS**, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us!'"



Matthew 4:4: Jesus says, "Man shall live by **EVERY WORD** that comes from the mouth of God!"



James 5:16: **CONFESS YOUR SINS** to each other and pray for each other!!



Psalm 38:18: David said, "I **CONFESS MY SIN**; I am troubled by **MY SIN**!"



Daniel 9:20: Daniel said, "While I was speaking and praying, **CONFESSING MY SIN**!"



Revelation 3:19: Jesus says, "Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline, so be earnest and **REPENT**!!" {**OF YOUR SINS**!!}



Hebrews 12:5-11: Do not make light of the Lord's discipline, and do not lose heart when He rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines those He loves, and He chastens **EVERYONE** HE ACCEPTS AS A SON**!!! Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as His children. For what children are not disciplined by their father {FOR THEIR SINS**}? If you are not disciplined--and everyone undergoes discipline--**THEN YOU ARE NOT LEGITIMATE**, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us{FOR OUR SINS!} and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in His holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it!



Since Adam7777 claims that he **NO LONGER SINNED** the moment he was saved; he completely disagrees with the above 3 passages from the inspired Words of God. And since he believes he was completely perfect when he was saved there is no reason for him to want **ETERNAL HEAVENLY REWARDS** for faithful and loving service.



**HOWEVER, GOD'S WORD COMPLETELY DISAGREES WITH HIM**!!



Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, "For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father's glory with His angels and **THEN** He will **REWARD** each person according to what they have done!"



Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your **REWARD** **IN HEAVEN**!�



I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN** that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER**! Therefore I do not run like a man running aimlessly; I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!



Luke 11:33,34: Jesus says, "Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a **TREASURE** IN HEAVEN** that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. For where your **TREASURE** is, there your **HEART** will be also!"



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Posted : 13 Dec, 2018 02:32 PM

"Every born from above saint will try to obey the above two New Covenant commands with all their heart. However, it is obvious that God's saints will fall short of completely obeying the above two commands of God!!!"



TRY TO OBEY? Does Christ not give enough strength to prophetic to do all things? HE CONFESSES HE FAILS, Gods word confesses he is right about himself, but not right about TRYING, nobody tries and succeeds, that is A SIGN OF FAILURE, CHRIST DOES NOT TRY, man tries and man fails, (prophecies and prophetic fails) CHRISTS LOVE IS PAST ALL OF PROPHETICS UNDERSTANDING...BY STRENGTH SHALL NO MAN PREVAIL. poor prophetic has shown he completely does not know that God is LOVE, for he has ignored the testimony about LOVE and has attributed failure to LOVE when it is his own hatred that has failed, because he preaches antichrist that love is the non fulfilling of the law, but what is LOVE? This is what LOVE IS, IT IS THE FULFILLING, the COMPLETING OF THE LAW TO LOVE, FOR THIS IS GOD AND IS KNOWING GOD WHO IS LOVE..1 John 4:8 HE THAT LOVETH NOT KNOWETH NOT GOD, FOR GOD IS LOVE.



1 Samuel 2:9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; FOR BY STRENGTH SHALL NO MAN PREVAIL



Philippians 4:13 I CAN DO ALL THINGS THROUGH CHRIST WHICH STRENGTHENETH ME.



John 5:30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.



Ephesians 3:19 AND TO KNOW THE LOVE OF CHRIST, WHICH PASSETH KNOWLEDGE, that ye might be FILLED WITH ALL THE FULNESS OF GOD.



1 Corinthians 13:7 BEARETH ALL THINGES, believeth all things, hopeth all things, ENDURETH ALL THINGS.



8 CHARITY NEVER FAILETH: but whether there be PROPHECIES, THEY SHALL FAIL; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.



Romans 13:10 LOVE WORKETH NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOUR: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.



Galatians 5:14 FOR ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED IN ONE WORD, EVEN IN THIS, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.



2 Corinthians 10:4 (FOR THE WEAPONS OF OUR WARFARE ARE not carnal, but MIGHTY THROUGH GOD to the pulling down of strong holds;)

5 CASTING DOWN imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself AGAINST THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, and bringing into captivity EVERY THOUGHT TO THE OBEDIENCE OF CHRIST;

6 And having in a readiness to REVENGE ALL DISOBEDIENCE, WHEN YOUR OBEDIENCE IS FULFILLED.



LittleDavid says prophetic is correct in his doctrine, BUT, prophetic confesses no sins, answers nothing, is not approachable, just a cymbal clanging away,1 Corinthians 13:Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.







So too is LittleDavid not confessing his sins, but says we are told to do this, but does not do it? All talk and deception, because they cannot confess and continue doing what God testifies we will be ashamed of..







Romans 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.







"Paul discusses this battle between the Christian and his indwelling sin in Romans 7. "







Now this deceiver mentions a scripture, which is his mistake, as now he will be reminded of Romans 7 AND Romans 8 TOGETHER.







WE WERE IN THE FLESH(SPEAKING OF OUR PAST TENSE) BRINGING FRUIT TO DEATH, BUT NOW(NOW IT IS PRESENT TENSE CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT) SERVING IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT(NOT IN OLDNESS ANY MORE THIS IS THE NEW TIME AND CHANGE)...







Romans 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.



6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.







Paul continues of the PAST. PAUL WAS ALIVE WITHOUT THE LAW AND THE COMMANDMENT CAME TO SIN NOT, AND HE DIED, AS PAUL IS SPEAKING ABOUT US ALL DYING IN SINS. THE COMMANDMENT TO SIN NOT GAVE DEATH TO US ALL AS WE COULD NOT OBEY IT IN THE FIRST COVENANT. BUT THE LAW IS HOLY AND GOOD. UNABLE TO OBEY THE COMMAND TO SIN NOT AND LOVE OUR NEIGHBOUR, CAUSING DEATH FOR DISOBEDIENCE BY THE GOOD LAW OF GOD, AS THE LAW IS SPIRITUAL BUT MAN IS CARNAL. WE WOULD OBEY GOD BUT CANT FIND THE STRENGTH TO DO IT, (THE JEWS ARE EXAMPLE OF THIS STILL IN ORIGINAL FIRST COVENANT TODAY) WE WOULD RATHER NOT DO THE SINS IN THAT FIRST COVENANT CONSENTING THAT IT IS A GOOD JUST LAW, SIN DWELLING IN US INSTEAD OF THE NEW COVENANT OF GOD DWELLING IN US BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND HOW TO PERFORM WE FOUND NOT, DOING EVIL THAT WE WANT TO NOT DO, BRINGING US TO CAPTIVITY TO THE LAW OF SIN IN THE MEMBERS BELONGING TO THAT FIRST FAULTY COVENANT. WRETCHED AND NEEDING TO BE DELIVERED FROM THAT BODY OF DEATH?







Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.



8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.



9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.



10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.



11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.



12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.



13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.



14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.



15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.



16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.



17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.



18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.



19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.



20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.



21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.



22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:



23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.



24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?



Present tense, we were brought into captivity to the law of sin, now it is we who bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ, but Christ gave us the victory of this fight we used to lose completely, now we win it completely, now we are conquerers when before we were conquered, so we be always unmovable abounding in the work of the Lord..



2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;



1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.



57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.



58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.



Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.



37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.



PRESENT TENSE, THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION, AS BEFORE THERE IS CONDEMNATION, IN CHRIST JESUS WE WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH, NOW FREE FROM THAT LAW OF SIN AND DEATH, WE WERE WEAK THROUGH THE FLESH, AND CHRIST CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH, AND NOW THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LAW OF CHRIST IS FULFILLED N US, (Galatians 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.) SOME ARE AFTER THE FLESH AND THEY DO ALL WAYS OF THE FLESH AND OTHERS ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT AND THEY DO THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT, EACH OBEYS WITHOUT STRUGGLE TO THEIR MASTERS, SIN OR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH, WHICH NEVER CAN OBEY THE LAW OF GOD, THOSE NOT SPIRIT CANNOT PLEASE GOD OBEYING HIS RIGHT WAYS, AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, YOUR BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN, FOR IF YOU LIVE AFTER THE FLESH YOU SHALL DIE, AS EXPLAINED ALREADY IN ROMANS 7, OR THROUGH THE SPIRIT DO MORTIFY(MAKE DEAD ND FINISHED) THE DEEDS OF YOUR BODY..







Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.



3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:



4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.



6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.



7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.



8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.



9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.



10 AND IF CHRIST IS IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.



11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.



12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.



13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.















IN CORRECT ORDER IS ROMANS 6 FIRST, EXPLAINING AS ALL SAYS, YE YIELDED COMPLETELY YOUR BODY TO ONLY UNCLEANNESS AND INIQUITY, NOW YOU CHANGED COMPLETELY TO YIELD THEM TO RIGHTEOUSNESS TO HOLINESS. WHEN SERVING SIN IN THE FIRST COVENANT YOU HAVE ZERO RIGHTEOUSNESS. NO FRUIT AT ALL AND NOW ASHAMED NOW CONFESSING AND NEVER ENDING THE EVIL. NOW CHRIST MAKES US FREE FROM THAT SIN TO SERVE GOD AND INSTEAD OF EVIL FRUIT IT IS FRUIT FIT FOR GOD(A GOOD TREE CANT HAVE EVIL FRUIT AND AN EVIL TREE CANT HAVE GOOD FRUIT) ...







Romans 6:16 KNOW YE NOT THAT TO WHOM YE YIELD YOURSELVES SERVANTS TO OBEY, HIS SERVANTS YE ARE TO WHOM YE OBEY; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?



17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.



18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.





20 FOR WHEN YE WERE THE SERVANTS OF SIN, YE WERE FREE FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS.







21 WHAT FRUIT HAD YE THEN IN THOSE THINGS WHEREOF YE ARE NOW ASHAMED??????????????????? for the end of those things is death.







22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.







23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.



John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, VERILY, I SAY UNTO YOU, WHOSOEVER COMMITETH SIN IS THE SERVANT OF SIN.



35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.



36 IF THE SON THEREFORE SHALL MAKE YOU FREE, YE SHALL BE FREE INDEED.



Matthew 6:24 NO MAN CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS: FOR EITHER HE WILL HOLD TO THE ONE AND HATE THE OTHER, OR ELSE HE WILL HOLD TO THE ONE, AND DESPISE THE OTHER. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.







WALK IN THE SPIRIT TO NOT STRUGGLE IN THE FLESH WHEN UNABLE TO DO THE THINGS WE WOULD BEING CARNAL IN THE FIRST COVENANT CURSED IS HE WHO CONTINUES NOT IN ALL THE WORDS OF THE LAW TO DO THEM. WE CANNOT DO THE THINGS WE WOULD, AS FLESH AND SPIRIT ARE CONTRARY TO EACH OTHER, WE CAN ONLY BE AND SERVE ONE, THEY WHO DO THOSE WORKS OF THE FLESH WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD, BUT TEMPERANCE LONGSUFFERING AND LOVE BREAKS NO LAW AND THEY WHO ARE CHRISTS HAVE CRUCIFIED THEIR BODY FLESH WITH ALL AND NY AFFECTIONS AND LUSTS..







Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.



17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.



18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.



19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,



20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,



21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.



22 BUT THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT IS LOVE, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,



23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.







Dear children walk in love, uncleanness fornication covetousness is not named once among saints, as those men have no inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ, deceivers try to insist they do, but the church is sanctified and cleansed, by the Holy word, and only presented to Christ in glory without spot or blemish but is HOLY..







Ephesians 5:Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;



2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.



3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;



4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.



5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.



6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS COMETH THE WRATH OF GOD UPON THE CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE.







Ephesians 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,



27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.







2 Peter 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. SPOTS THEY ARE AND BLEMISHES, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;



14 Having eyes full of adultery, AND THAT CANNOT CEASE FROM SIN; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:







1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath CEASED FROM SIN;



2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.







1 Timothy 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to THE DOCTRINE WHICH IS ACCORDING TO GODLINESS;







4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,







5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, SUPPOSING THAT GAIN IS GODLINESS: from such withdraw thyself.







COVERING OUR SINS IS NOT HAVING THEM CLEANED, FORSAKING THEM IS BEING HEALED, UNLESS IT IS NOT TOLD TO BE PRESENTED FAULTLESS BEFORE THE THRONE OF CHRIST..







Proverbs 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: BUT WHOSO CONFESSETH AND FORSAKETH THEM SHALL HAVE MERCY.







1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.







James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.







Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and TO PRESENT YOU FAULTLESS BEFORE THE PRESENCE OF HIS GLORY with exceeding joy,







Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT FAULT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.

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