I've been longing for the day when theologians will finally acknowledge the literal 6 day creation as recorded in Genesis chapter one. Although the author of Genesis one intended the account to be interpreted literally, many theologians hesitate to accept a literal interpretation. They insist the findings of "science" conflict with a literal interpretation of Genesis chapter one. But no theologian has ever referenced any such "scientific evidence" but they have referenced uniformitarian philosophy that uniformitarian scientists embrace. It would seem these theologians have inadvertently allowed establishment philosophers to interpret the Genesis record under the pretense of science! Theologians are supposed to be the gatekeepers of theological purity but obviously some of them have let us down--in the very first chapter of the Bible!
Nice post David, and a valid question/thought to wonder of concern... I think Paul sums the matter up for us in 1 Corinthians 2:10-16 New International Version (NIV)
10 "these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person�s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for, �Who has known the mind of the Lord
so as to instruct him?�
But we have the mind of Christ."
As Christian believers, we know that God created the heavens and earth in 6 days, and it was done by HIS OWN FAITH the speaking of HIS OWN WORDS, He spoke the world into existence... Faith in Action Hebrews 11:1-3 "Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God�s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible."
We, as believers live by faith, BUT scientists LIVE BY SIGHT! Therefore, they cannot understand OR see with confidence in what we hope for or have assurance about what we do not see, we trust and believe in God by OUR FAITH and believe that He did indeed creat the heavens and earth as He has said He did.. and nothing else matters.
Genesis 1:1-5: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now {On the 1st Day of God's 6-day Creation} the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And {Then on the 1st day of God's 6-day Creation} God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. {New sun moon and stars} God that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. God called the light *DAY*, and the darkness He called *NIGHT* And there was evening, and there was morning--**THE FIRST DAY**!
Now almost all Evangelical Chronology scholars agree that God's 6-day creation was about 5,877 years ago according to Bible Chronology which I will show later in this post. The Jewish Bible Chronology is 100 tears shorter than the Christian Bible chronology and their Bible calendar is 5,777 years from the 6-day creation. This is probably caused by the Jews not accepting the 70 7's or 490 year prophecy in Daniel 9:24-27 which shows that there were exactly 69 7's or 483 years from the decree of Cyrus to rebuild Jerusalem to the coming and Anointing of the Anointed One on October 5th, AD 29 which was exactly 3 1/2 years, which is 1278 days, before the Resurrection of the Anointed One on April 5th, AD 33.
It is interesting to note that there is no mention of the creation of a **NEW EARTH** on the FIRST DAY OF GOD's 6-day creation which only mentions the new light by the creation of the new sun, moon and stars.
We know from the almost exact science of **CARBON DATING** that some of the **NEANDERTHAL CREATURES** lived about 25,000 years ago and that many Dinosaurs lived about 100,000 years ago and that many strata in the Grand Canyon are over 200,000 years old. Neanderthal creatures look almost like men but only had the intelligence of an ape.
There are some Christians who believe Carbon Dating can not be proven and erroneously believe that the Neanderthal creatures and Dinosaurs were also created 5,878 years ago. Neither Christian groups believe in evolution or the Big Bang Theory as does Pope Francis.
THE CHRISTIAN CHRONOOGY OF 5,877 YEARS FROM THE BIRTH OF ADAM TO THE PRESENT:
**BIBLE CHRONOLOGY BEGINNING WITH THE CREATION OF ADAM UNTIL NOW**
These chronologies below are recorded in Genesis 5:2-32 and Genesis 11:10-26:
Adam became the father of Seth at age .............. 130
Seth became the father of Enosh at age ...............105
Enosh became the father of Kenan at age ............. 90
Kenan became the father of Mahalel at age.............70
Mahalel became the father of Jared at age..............65
Jared became the father of Enoch at age ..............162
Enoch became the father of Methusaleh at age ...... 65
Methusaleh became the father Lamech at age....... 187
Lamech became the father of Noah at age .............182
Noah became the father of Shem at age ................500
Shem became the father of Arphaxed at age .........100
Arphaxad became the father of Shelah at age ......... 35
Shelah bacame the father of Eber at age .............. ...30
Eber became the father of Peleg at age ...................34
Peleg became the father of Reu at age ....................30
Reu became the father of Serug at age ....................32
Serug became the father of Nahor at age .................30
Nahor became the father of Terah at age ..................29
Terah became the father of Abram{Abraham}at age...70 for a total of 1946 years after Adam was created.
Abraham entered the land of Canaan at age 75 which was 2021 years after Adam was created.
Exodus 12:40: Now the length of time the Israelite people lived in Egypt and Canaan {See NIV footnote} was 430 years. At the end of 430 years, **TO THE VERY DAY** the Lord's divisions left Egypt.
So Israel left Egypt 430 years after Abraham entered Canaan which was 2021 years after Adam was created and so Israel left Egypt 2021 + 430 or 2451 years after Adam was created.
**CHRONOLOGY OF THE 22 KINGS**
Saul king of all Israel for 42 years {I Samuel 13:1}
David king of all Israel for 40 years {I Kings 2:11}
Solomon king of all Israel for 40 years {I Kings 11:42} Solomon started to build God's Temple 3 years and 32 days after he began to reign.
After the death of King Solomon; the Kingdom of Israel was divided into Northern Israel with the Kings of Israel and southern Israel with 19 kings of Judah with headquarters in Jerusalem. The Kingdom of northern Israel was exiled by the King of Assyria during the reign of Ahaz, king of Judah. {Read 2 Kings 17:1-41}
**19 KINGS OF JUDAH**
Rehoboam king for 17 years {I Kings 14:21}
Abijah king for 5 years {I Kings 15:1,2}
Asa king for 41 years {I Kings 15:9,10}
Jehoshaphat king for 25 years {2 Chron 20:31}
Jehoram king for 8 years {2 Chron 21:5}
Ahaziah king for 1 year {2 Chron 22:2}
Joash hidden in Temple for 6 years as the King of Israel Athaliah ruled for 6 years {2 Chron 22:12}
Joash then became king for 40 years {2 Chron 24:19}
Amaziah king for 29 years {2 Chron 25:1}
Uzziah {Also called Azariah} king for 52 years {2 Chron 26:2}
Jotham king for 16 years {2 Chron 27:1}
Ahaz king for 16 years {2 Chron 28:1}
Hezekiah king for 29 years {2 Chron 29:1}
Manasseh king for 55 years { 2 Chron 33:1}
Amon king for 2 years {2 Chron 33:21}
Josiah king for 31 years {2 Chron 34:1}
Jehoahaz king for 3 months {2 Chron 36:2}
Jehoiakim king for 11 years {2 Chron 36:5}
Jehoiachin king for 3 months {2 Chron 36:9}
Zedekiah king for 11 years {2 Chron 36:11}
For a total of 490 years + 6 months + 10 days {Or 190 days}for the 22 kings above before the 70-year exile of Israel to Babylon. {See 2 Chronicles 36:20,21.
I Kings 6:1 In the 480th year after the Israelites had come out of Egypt, in the 4th year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the Temple of the Lord. 2 Chronicles 3:2: He {Solomon} began building on the second day of the second month in the 4th year of his reign.
And so Solomon began building the Temple after 3 years and 32 days of the 4th year of his reign and 479 years and 32 days of the 480th year after the Israelites left Egypt which we have shown was 2451 years after the birth of Adam; for a total of 2930 years + 32 days after the birth of Adam.
Saul had reigned 42 years and David ruled for 40 years and Solomon reigned 3 years and 32 days for a total of 85 years and 32 days from the first day of Saul's reign until the Temple was started. And since the 22 Judean kings ruled 490 years + 190 days before their 70 year exile to Babylon then there would have been 405 years + 158 days from when Solomon started the Temple until the 70-year exile. 490 years plus 190 days minus 85 years + 32 days equals exactly 405 years plus 158 days.
250 years earlier the Lord made this amazing prophecy in Isaiah 45:13: The Lord said, "I will raise up Cyrus in My righteousness. He will rebuild My city and set my exiles free!!" {Read 2 Chronicles 36:22,23}
Daniel 9:24,25: 70 7's {or 490 years} are decreed for your people and your Holy City... Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree {By King Cyrus} to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the Ruler, comes, there will be 7 7's and 62 7's {69 7's or 483 years}!!
And so this amazing prophecy confirms that the coming and Anointing of the Anointed Savior would take pace exactly 69 7's or 483 years after the decree of Cyrus which took place on October 5th, AD 29 which was 3 1/2 years or 1278 days before Jesus put an end to all sacrifices for sin in the middle of the last 7 years {See Dan 9:27a} on April 3-5, AD 33.
And so the time period from Solomon starting the Temple to the Anointing of Jesus would have been 405 years + 158 days + 70 years + 483 years for a total of 958 years and 158 days. And the time period from the birth of Adam to Solomon starting the Temple would have been 2930 years + 32 days plus 958 years + 158 days for a grand total of 3,888 years plus 190 days.
Let us suppose that the 1260-day Great Tribulation will begin on the 70-YEAR** Anniversary of Israel on **MAY 14TH, 2018** and end 1260 days later at the 2nd Coming of Jesus on **OCTOBER 25TH, 2021**
The time period from the Anointing of Jesus or the 1st Coming of Jesus on October 5th, AD 29 to the speculative 2nd Coming of Jesus on October 25th, 2021 would be exactly 1992 years plus 20 days. And then the time period from the birth of Adam to the 2nd Coming of Jesus would be 1,992 years + 20 days plus 3,888 years + 190 days for a grand total of 5,880 years plus 210 days. And 7 times 840 years is 5,880 years and so **7** times **770 + 70** years is also 5,880 years. And 210 days is also **70+70+70** days. And so the time period from the birth of Adam to the possible 2nd Coming of Jesus on October 25th, AD 2021 would be exactly **7** times **770+70** years plus **70+70+70** days!!
The idea that something may happen related to the End-Times on the **70** YEAR ANNIVERSARY** of the birth of Israel is, of course, just an interesting **SPECULATION**!
prophetic7744, thank you for your response. After reviewing your reply, i observed a few scientific and Bible references you cited. I wish to be respectful and hope my choice of words indicate that. I expect to share these with you in the same numerical order as you shared them from your text.
ERROR 1) God created light on day one but did not create the sun, moon and stars until day four.
ERROR 2) Your assertion the "...NEW EARTH..." "...is not mentioned in the 6 day creation..." is not only incoherent but exegetically unsound as well.
ERROR 3) Carbon dating is not scientifically accurate past 10,000 years and therefore cannot varifiy an earlier age for the Neanderthal. Neanderthals are not 25,000 years old, as you insist. They are no more than a few thousand years old and lived recently. Additionally, they are now regarded anatomically consistent with modern man.
ERROR 4) Carbon dating does not prove the Geand Canyon is 200,000 years old and carbon dating does not prove dinosaurs lived 100,000 years ago.
You asserted quite a few errors in the very small space of a single text. It would be better for me to address the rest in several continuous texts.
prophetic 7744, you owe it to yourself to read Genesis one for yourself, perhaps for the first time. Possibly you're being influenced by bad information from secular humanist articles and/or from theologians who agree with them.
You're welcome to read Genesis 1 before l complete my critique. This exercise alone should correct your faulty sun,moon and star chronology. Be especially sure to read about days 1 and 4 specifically. This should help
David you are right about the sun moon and stars being created on the 4th day of the six 24 hour days of God's new creation. This took place about 5877 years ago according to the best Bible Chronologists. However God did create **LIGHT** on the First Day on the **OLD EARTH** which then had darkness and *WATER*.
According to Wikipedia Carbon 14 dating is very accurate within 2 percent up to 50,000 years. According to Wikipedia Neanderthal Creatures came about 160,0000 ears ago and became extinct about 40,000 years ago and some Dinosaurs lived over 100,000 years ago.
Not being a good scientists we have no way of knowing if this is accurate or not. However, if you can prove that that anything on earth, like the Grand Canyon, is over 6,000 years old it must have existed on the **OLD EARTH** since God's six 24 hour day creation took place about 5,877 years ago!!
However, David you have stated that Carbon Dating is accurate for 10,000 YEARS {Which is over 6,000 years!!???} so you must be an **EXPERT** in Carbon 14 dating science??
Prophetic 7744, I find it curious you do not accept easter because of its cultistic history, yet you accept atheistic (uniformitarian philosophy) for the earths origin. You're obviously not being consistent. As for Wikipedia definitions, your understanding is only as good as your sources. You may not be aware that Wikipedia has been criticized for its lack of precision and it's bias.
You're also unaware of carbon 14 limitations. You're right, I'm not an expert on carbon 14 dating methods, I just know enough to refer to qualified unbiased scientific sources who are unfettered by philosophic prejudices.
Once again, your errors and misunderstandings continue to mount. For example, I did not indicate light was created on any other day than day one. If you want to insist I said otherwise, perhaps you would quote me.
Once again you're eager to accept Atheistic views concerning the earth's origin when you speak about the "old earth".
Apparently you've uncritically adopted the "old earth" concept from other compromising theologians. You're not alone in rejecting the Genesis Revelation, many theologians have exchanged Holy Spirit Inspiration for evolutionary speculation. Although some of them insist they reject evolution they accept it's premises such as the "old earth" (millions years old).
Richard, I hope you resource qualified scientists and resist speculative philosophies like uniformitarianism in your quest for truth. Many scientists do not recognize old earth uniformitarian philosophy because of its obvious conflict with the facts of science.
As for the dinosaurs, some of them are mentioned in the book of Job and possibly in Genesis.
As for the Grand Canyon, it's contours and geology can be explained by the worldwide destructive force of floodwaters beneath Noah's Ark.
Prophetic 7744, I thought you were providing me some extra errors to address from your lengthy reply. But after reviewing the last three quarters of it, I noticed you had merely ventured off topic. I assume by your aimless wonder off topic you have concluded with the acceptance of the opinions of philosophers. Apparently you have no supporting facts to bring to the table.
Prophetic7744, here's a challenge for you. Let's see if you can present scripture addressing the Uniformitarian concept of an "old earth". You apparently embraced the concept but haven't explained why you reject the Genesis account of a young earth. If you're like some theologians, you might attempt to advance the "yom" word fallacy. But that's ok too. Our readers might appreciate a solid rebuttal of that fallacy. Perhaps you might as well produce some SCIENTIFIC facts that clearly prove the earth is "millions of years" old. You'll notice I superimposed the term SCIENTIFIC because I'm not asking for more Uniformitarian philosophy. Many people, including some (but not all) theologians confuse the two.
Genesis 1:1-2: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the ***WATERS** {God recreated *WATERS** on the Second Day as per Genesis 1:6-8}
And then Genesis 1:3-5 shows what God created on the **FIRST DAY** of His six 24 hour days of Creation!
Genesis 1:3-5: And God said, "Let there be light. God saw that the light was good and He separated the light from the darkness. God called the light *DAY* and the darkness He called *NIGHT* And there was evening, and there was morning- the **FIRST DAY**!
According to Wikipedia Carbon 14 dating is very accurate within 2 percent up to 50,000 years. According to Wikipedia Neanderthal Creatures came about 160,0000 ears ago and became extinct about 40,000 years ago and some Dinosaurs lived over 100,000 years ago.
Not being a good scientists we have no way of knowing if this is accurate or not. However, if you can prove that that anything on earth, like the Grand Canyon, is over 6,000 years old it must have existed on the **OLD EARTH** since God's six 24 hour day creation took place about 5,877 years ago!!
However, David you have stated that Carbon Dating is accurate for 10,000 YEARS {Which is over 6,000 years!!???} so you must be an **EXPERT** in Carbon 14 dating science?? Or you are accepting the testimony of someone that believes that there is nothing on this earth which is over 6.000 years old which shows that he is not an **EXPERT SCIENTIST* on Caebon14 dating.
To say that all the dozens of strata in the Grand Canyon was caused by Noah's single flood about 3500 years ago is completely ridiculous since the Grand Canyon shows strata from dozens of floods with animals that have carbon14 dating over 100,000 years. Anything that shows something on this earth is over 6.000 years old proves there was earth before God's 6-day creation about 5,877 years ago!!!
