Why are you consumed with the idea that you need to highjack every thread you read with walls of scripture that do not pertain to the subject.
You are not empowered of the Holy Spirit when you do that, for that is the flesh, pride, and ignorance.
Richard, stop this as you are not encouraging anyone, not are you edifying anyone.
When 2 or more people are rebuking, and correcting you and you do not listen to the Holy Spirit thru the rebukes, then you show that you are UNTEACHABLE,hard hearted, and unwilling to recieve correction leading to repentnce.
You grieve the Holy Spirit in people on this site, as they do not want to read or respond to your rants.
In the name of Messiah Yashua, repent of your UNBELIEF, and pride.
@GNWS...AMEN! AND AMEN! Richard is being controlled by a "FAMILIAR SPIRIT" "A SPIRIT OF DIVINATION" ! And I TOO, REBUKE his demonic spirit in the MOST POWERFUL MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH! AND MAY GOD HIMSELF REBUKE AND CAST OUT HIS UNCLEAN SPIRIT AND CONVICT HIS HEART OF HIS UNGODLY UNACCEPTABLE DISRUPTIVE ARROGANT BEHAVIOR! Using God's word for his own foolishness, not accomplishing one thing nor is he using the Scriptures effectively.
He thinks he's doing GOD WORK and is in favor with the Lord by posting all those Scriptures all over the board, when in fact, HE IS A HERETIC AND SUBVERTED, and he's only causing resentment toward himself from others and dissension. THIS IS SIN! USING THE WORD OF GOD IN VAIN!
He reminds me of the women in the book of Acts 16:16-19: Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, �These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.� And this she did for many days. But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, �I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.� And he came out that very hour. But when her masters saw that their hope of profit was gone, they seized Paul and Silas and dragged them into the marketplace to the authorities. AMEN!
** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.
I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct rhe affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**
I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, tenperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!
I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should renain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!
I Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHEED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charege: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!!
Now ET or Ella claims to be a minister and an evangelist in churches when men are present for 32 years. And since she has quoted Paul, I asked her if she believed that all of Paul's teachings were inspired by God, and if she did, I asked her to exegete and explain 1 Timothy 2:11 and I Corinthians 14:34,35 above.
Ella has refused to answer these simple questions which any true Christian would be happy to answer wuth her interpretation of these God-breathed Scriptures. Some women preachers believe that none of Paul's writings are God-breathed, and some believe that most of Paul's Scriptures are God-breathed but these 2 Scriptures could not be. Others believe that these commands by God were only true for the early church but do apply to the present time.
It is interesting to note that women are to teach other women in the New testament; but there is not even one Scripture of a woman speaking in a church or teaching men in a church. However Acts 18:26 shows that married women can teach God's Word to men in their home and mothers can certainly teach God's Word to all of their children at home.
Acts 18:26: When **PRISCILLA AND AQUILA** heard **HIM** they invited **HIM** to their home and explained to **HIM** the way of God more adequately.
There are many who believe that women can teach boys under 12 in church since according to Jewish custom they are only considered men on their 12th birthday. There are also many who believe that women can teach men on radio, TV and the Internet since the men are at home and not in church. However, I believe women should not judge men who sincerely give their exegesis of God's Word on the internet. For God''s Word in I Timothy 2:11 says, "I do not a women to teach or to **ASSUME AUTHORITY** over a man." Almost all of my posts are topical and I try to quote all the Scripture that apply to a specific topic in God's Word.
Ella's only response to these questions about I Timothy 2:11 and I Corinthians 15:34,35 are as follows:
"Richard is being controlled by a "FAMILIAR SPIRIT" "A SPIRIT OF DIVINATION" ! And I REBUKE his demonic spirit in the MOST POWERFUL MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH! AND MAY GOD HIMSELF REBUKE AND CAST OUT HIS UNCLEAN SPIRIT AND CONVICT HIS HEART OF HIS UNGODLY UNACCEPTABLE DISRUPTIVE ARROGANT BEHAVIOR! Using God's word for his own foolishness, not accomplishing one thing nor is he using the Scriptures effectively."
"He thinks he's doing GOD WORK and is in favor with the Lord by posting all those Scriptures all over the board, when in fact, HE IS A HERETIC AND SUBVERTED, and he's only causing resentment toward himself from others and dissension. THIS IS SIN! USING THE WORD OF GOD IN VAIN!"
**WAS PAUL GOD'S **CHOSEN INSTRUMENT** TO WRITE 14 OF THE 27 BOOKS OF THE NEW COVENANT**
Acts 22:24:15: Ananias said to Paul, "The God of our ancestors has **CHOSEN YOU** to **KNOW HIS WILL** and to see the Righteous One and to hear words from His mouth. You will be His witness to all people of what you have seen and heard.
Acts 26:16-18: The Lord Jesus said to Paul, Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you and **APPOINTED YOU** as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen and will see of Me I am sending you to the Gentiles to open their eyes and turn then from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they my receive **FORGIVENESS OF SINS** and a place among those who **SANCTIFIED BY FAITH IN ME**!"
Acts 915: The Lord said to Ananias, "This man {PAUL} is **MY CHOSEN INSTRUMENT**to proclaim My name to the Gentiles and their kings and to the people of Israel!"
Acts 20:27: Paul said, "For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the **WHOLE WILL OF GOD**!"
** WHAT DOES GOD'S WORD SAY ABOUT THE PREACHING AND TEACHING OF MEN AND WOMEN IN THE CHURCH**??
Titus 1:6-9: An **ELDER** must be blameless, faithful to **HIS** wife, a **MAN** whose children believe... Since an **OVERSEER** manages God's household, **HE** must be blameless... **HE** must **HOLD FIRMLY** to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that **HE** can encourage others by **SOUND DOCTRINE and **REFUTE THOSE** WHO OPPOSE IT**.
I Timothy 5:17: The **ELDERS** who direct rhe affairs of the church well are worthy of a double honor, especially those whose work is **PREACHING ** and **TEACHING**
I Timothy 3:1 Whoever desires to be an **OVERSEER** desires a noble task. Now the **OVERSEER**is to be above reproach, faithful to **HIS** wife, tenperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable and **ABLE TO TEACH**!!
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!
I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should renain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!
2 Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHEED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charege: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!
I Peter 1:23-25: For you have been **BORN AGAIN**, not of perishable seed but the imperishable, through the living and enduring **WORD OF GOD**. For all people are like grass, and all their glory is like flowers in the field; the grass withers and the flowers fail, but the **WORD OF THE LORD ENDURES FOREVER**!! And this is the Word that was preached to you!
Some women preachers believe that none of Paul's writings are God-breathed, and some believe that most of Paul's Scriptures are God-breathed but these 2 Scriptures could not be. Others believe that these commands by God were only true for the early church but do apply to the present time.
It is interesting to note that women are to teach other women in the New testament; but there is not even one Scripture of a woman speaking in a church or teaching men in a church. However Acts 18:26 shows that married women can teach God's Word to men in their home and mothers can certainly teach God's Word to all of their children at home.
Acts 18:26: When **PRISCILLA AND AQUILA** heard **HIM** they invited **HIM** to their home and explained to **HIM** the way of God more adequately.
There are many who believe that women can teach boys under 12 in church since according to Jewish custom they are only considered men on their 12th birthday. There are also many who believe that women can teach men on radio, TV and the Internet since the men are at home and not in church. However, I believe women should not judge men who sincerely give their exegesis of God's Word on the internet. For God''s Word in I Timothy 2:11 says, "I do not permit a women to teach or to **ASSUME AUTHORITY** over a man."
All of the Conservative Evangelical Bible scholars teach that Paul definitely wrote 13 books of the NT. About 70 percent of Evangelical Bible scholars believe Paul wrote the book of Hebrews and about 30 percent believe that Luke wrote Hebrews. I believe that Paul must have written Hebrews because the person that wrote Hebrews had to have a profound knowledge of the OT Scriptures. And the Jews picked Paul to lead their fight against the early Christians since Paul had such profound knowledge of the OT Scriptures.
Pagan Bible scholars, Jewish Bible scholars like TNT, **LIBERAL** Protestant Bible scholars, and Charismatic Bible scholars who believe that women can be preachers and elders in the church; try to show that all or some of Paul's writings are not inspired by God. They also try to show that Paul could not have written some of his NT books because of the change of writing style in some of these books. However all of the churches had different problems that Paul was inspired to correct. And Paul said:
I Corinthians 9:19-22: I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew to win the Jews. To those under the law, I became like one under the law; though I myself are not under the law, so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law; though I am not free from God's law but am under **CHRIST'S LAW**, so as to win those not having the law. To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some!!
This is a very interesting topic that many in this forum will disagree on. I am sure all the true Christians will speak the truth in **LOVE** as per Ephesians 4:15 and pray for those who disagree with God's Word.
Thank you Richard for all the Scriptures, could you please explain what they all mean and how you tie them together effectively as being a word from God for such a time as this?
In other words, break them down for me... thanks
Ella: You have claimed to be an Evangelist and Minister for 32 years and have the Holy Spirit. And so I would think that you would completely understand the following Words of God:
I Timothy 2:11: A **WOMAN** should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a **WOMEN** **TO TEACH** or to assume authority **OVER A MAN**!
I Corinthians 15:34,35:**WOMEN** should remain silent in the churches, They are not allowed **TO SPEAK**, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about anything, they should ask their husbands at home; for it is **DISGRACEFUL** for a **WOMAN** **TO SPEAK IN THE CHURCH**!!
2 Peter 3:15,16: Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our **DEAR BROTHER PAUL** also wrote you with the **WISDOM GOD GAVE TO HIM**. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand {To unbelievers} which **IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT**, as they do other Scriptures, to their own **DESTRUCTION**!
2 Timothy 3:16,17: All Scripture is **GOD-BREATHEED** and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead and in view of His appearing and His Kingdom, I give you this charge: **PREACH THE WORD**; be prepared in season in out of season, correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction. For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear!!
