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Jesus Christ the Son of God a Weakling Without the Spirit of God His Father in Him
Posted : 31 Jan, 2018 01:08 PM

Amen, many people are portraying In these last days a Superman type kind of Jesus that is half man and half God. I never found any scripture like this in the bible after 22 years and not one soul never will. God never became nothing in the flesh he sent his Son John 3:16.



Jesus told us in John 4:24 God is a spirit NOT a human. Jesus Christ the Son of God was 100% human, the difference between Jesus and man is that he knew his bible as he was the bible in the flesh John 1:1 the Word made flesh. Jesus the Son of God our Lord had to learn by obedience. Jesus told us: he can do nothing by himself, did not know when he was returning, never spoke his own words, was sent, talked about and prayed to his Father in heaven, a separate entity, could not give anything to anybody, and used third party terms with his Father in heaven. Jesus Christ the Son of God felt pain, ate and drank. Jesus never once said he was God in any shape or as that was spun out by bewitched and carnal minded preachers looking for your pocketbook by using vain deceit and way, way, way out of context scriptures.



Most preachers should be hauling garbage instead of preaching and perverting the bible as they might feel something. The only thing they are feeling after is the devil and taking you along the ride to hell with them unless you come out from among them. ‎Big deal man believes in one God so does the devil James 2:19. Only difference is devils tremble, while man just perverts and does not tremble.



John 4:24] God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.‎



John 5:19] Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.‎ [20] For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.‎ [21] For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.‎ [22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:‎ [23] That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.‎ [24] Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.‎ [25] Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.‎ [26] For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;‎ [27] And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.‎ [28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,‎ [29] And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.‎ [30] I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.‎ [31] If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.‎ [32] There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.‎



‎ Hebrews 5:8] Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;‎ [9] And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;‎ [10] Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.



Luke 22:42] Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.‎ [43] And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.‎ [44] And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. John 8:28] Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.‎



John 7:16] Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.‎ [17] If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.‎ [18] He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.‎



Matthew 24:36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.‎



Luke 2:49] And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?‎



John 14:10] Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.‎ [11] Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.‎ Matthew 10:32] Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.‎ [33] But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.



Matthew 11:27] All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. ‎



Matthew 20:23] And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.



John 20:17] Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.‎



Mark 8:38] Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.



Romans 8:3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:‎ [4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.



Col 1:12] Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:‎ [13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: [14] In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:‎ [15] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:‎

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Jesus Christ the Son of God a Weakling Without the Spirit of God His Father in Him
Posted : 3 Feb, 2018 05:05 PM

WHO WILL BE THE 7TH AND LAST ANGEL OR MESSENGER WHO WILL SOUND THE 7TH AND LAST TRUMPET JUST BEFORE THE SECOND COMING OF JESUS**??



Revelation 1:16: Jesus **HOLDS** seven stars in His right hand.



Revelation 1:20: The seven stars which I **HOLD** in My right hand are seven angels/messengers of the 7 churches.



Revelation 2:1: Jesus says, These are the words of Him who **HOLDS** the 7 stars in His right hand!



Revelation 8:2: I saw the 7 angels/messengers who **STAND BEFORE GOD** and 7 trumpets were given to them!! {See Revelation 1:4 and 4:5 above!}



Mark 1:2,4: "I will send my messenger {**GREEK-ANGELOS**} ahead of you"... And so John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness.



Since John the Baptist is called an **ANGELOS** the Greek word **ANGELOS** can be translated **ANGEL** or **MESSENGER**!! And so the words **ANGELS** in the Scriptures above can also be translated **MESSENGERS**!!



Gabriel is called a **MAN** in Daniel 9:21 while he is wrongly called an **ANGEL** {Greek-ANGELOS} in Luke 1:19 and Luke 1:26 which should be translated **MESSENGER** since Gabriel is a **MAN**.



Daniel 9:21,22,24: Daniel said, "While I was still in prayer, **GABRIEL**, the **MAN** I had seen in my earlier vision, came to me in swift flight He instructed me and said to me, "Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding... Therefore, consider the word and understand the vision" "70 7's {490 years} are decreed for your holy people to atone for wickedness {After 69 1/2 7's}, to bring in **EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS** {On the Last Day when the 7th angel or 7th messenger sounds the 7th and Last Trumpet**} and to anoint the Most Holy! {after 69 7's}



Now Gabriel in Hebrew is translated **MAN OF GOD** And in Acts 13:22 God said that "David is a **MAN** after My own heart, and he will do everything I want him to do!!" And Jesus is called the **SON OF DAVID** 17 times in the New Testament!!



Luke 1:1,26,27,30-32: The **MESSENGER** {Greek-Angelos} said to Zechariah, "I am Gabriel {David?} I stand in the presence of God {See Rev 8:2 above}, and have been sent to give you this good news." {About the birth of John the Baptist}... God sent the messenger {Greek-Angelos} Gabriel to Nazareth to a virgin pledged to be married to Joseph, a descendant of **DAVID**... Gabriel said, "Do not be afraid Mary. You will conceive and birth to a son, and you are to call Him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give Him the throne of His father **DAVID**!!"



Revelation 8:2: I saw the 7 MESSENGERS** {Greek-Angelos} who stand before God an **7 TRUMPETS** will be given to them!



Revelation 11:15,18: The **7TH MESSENGER** {**DAVID**} {Greek-Angelos} sounded his Trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven which said, "The kingdom of this world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and His Messiah, and He will reign for ever and ever!"... The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name.



The 7th messenger who will probably be **DAVID** will sound the 7th and last loud trumpet call just before the 2nd Coming of Jesus, who is also the **SON OF DAVID**, This Trumpet is also mentioned in Matthew 24:31, I Thessalonians 4:16, I Corinthian 15:51 and Revelation 10:7!!



**Many Bible scholars believe Enoch who walked faithfully with God for 300 years and then was translated to heaven is the Archangel whom God renamed Michael** Let us review the evidence in God's Word!



Genesis 5:21-24: When Enoch had lived 65 years, he becane the father of Methusaleh. Enoch walked **FAITHFULLY WITH GOD FOR 300 YEARS**. Altogether Enoch lived 365 years. Enoch walked faithfully with God, then he was no more, because God **TOOK HIM AWAY**!



Hebrews 11:5: By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death. He could not be found because God had **TAKEN HIM AWAY**. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who **PLEASED GOD**!



Jude 14,15: Enoch, the 7th from Adam, prophesied: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of His holy ones, to judge everyone!!



According to Wikipedia the book of Enoch recounts how Enoch was taken up to Heaven and was appointed chief of the angels and the immediate attendant on God's throne. He was subsequently taught all secrets and mysteries and, with all the angels at his back, fulfils of his own accord whatever comes out of the mouth of God, executing His decrees.



Enoch and Elijah were the only 2 saints who were translated into heaven without death; and Elijah then became one of God's 2 witnesses who stand before God and will come back to earth for 1260 days during the Great Tribulation!!



The name Michael comes from 3 Hebrew words MI {Who} CHA [Like} EL {God} and asks the question Who is like unto God? and the answer of course is *NO ONE*!!



Michael and his angels kick Satan and his angels out of heaven just before the beginning of the Great Tribulation as per Revelation 12:7-9 and this is some what repeated in Daniel 12:1,2,7b: At that time Micheal,the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress suchas has not happened from the beginning of nations until then, but at that time your people--everyone whose name is found written in the {LAMB'S}} Book--will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt... It will be for time, times and half a time, all these things will be completed!



As we have shown before the Greek word **ANGELOS** can be translated **ANGEL** or ** MESSENGER** since John the Baptist is also called an **ANGELOS**!



Jesus is obviously referring to the archangel Michael in Revelation 22:16: "I, Jesus, have sent **MY MESSENGER** {ANGELOS} to give you this testimony **FOR THE CHURCHES**!?



Revelation 22:8,9: I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to the **MESSENGER** {ANGELOS} {Micheal} who had been showing them to me. But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant {A MAN not an angel!!} with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keeps the words of this Book. **WORSHIP GOD**!!" {Since "Who is like unto God!"}



Revelation 1:20: The seven stars which I **HOLD** in My right hand are seven **MESSENGERS** {Angelos} of the 7 churches. {Which is symbolic of all churches}



Revelation 8:2: I saw the 7 **MESSENGERS** {Angelos} who **STAND BEFORE GOD** and 7 trumpets were given to them!!



And so the 7 angels who stand before God's throne should really be called **MESSENGERS** since David is the 7th **MESSENGER** and Enoch is the Cheif **MESSENGER** who are both **MEN** and not **ANGELS**!!. The other 5 **MESSENGERS** could be some of God's beloved super saints, such as Abraham, Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah and Samuel!!



Revelation 1:20: The seven stars which I **HOLD** in My right hand are seven angels/**MESSENGERS** of the 7 churches.



Revelation 3:1: Jesus says, "These are the words of Him who **HOLDS** the **7 SPIRITS OF GOD**!"



Revelation 1:4: Grace and peace to you from the Father and the **7 SPIRITS** **BEFORE HIS THRONE** and from Jesus Christ



Revelation 8:2: I saw the 7 angels/**MESSENGERS** who **STAND BEFORE GOD** and 7 trumpets were given to them!! {See Revelation 1:4 and 4:5 above!}



Since our Lord Jesus **HOLDS** both the **7 MESSENGERS** and **7 SPIRITS** in His hand; and both the **7 MESSENGERS** and **7 SPRITS ** **STAND BEFORE GOD'S THRONE** could the **7 MESSENGERS** also be the **7 SPIRITS** of God!!???



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