Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 25 Sep, 2015 09:55 PM
Constantine decreed (March 7, 321) dies Solis�day of the sun, "Sunday"�as the Roman day of rest just prior to the Council of Nicaea:
�On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.�
Furthermore:
Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ. (Canon 29 [A.D. 360]). (The Church Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE)
What did the Pope have to say about all of this?
Sylvester I (314-337 A.D.) was the pope during the reign of Constantine. Here is what he thought of the Bible Sabbath: "If every Sunday is to be observed joyfully by the Christians on account of the resurrection, then every Sabbath on account of the burial is to be execration [loathing or cursing] of the Jews."--quoted by S. R. E. Humbert, Adversus Graecorum calumnias 6, in Patrologie Cursus Completus, Series Latina, ed. J.P. Migne, 1844, p. 143.
So Christians worship on Sunday to loath and curse Jews like our Messiah? Interesting....but where did the Pope get the authority to override YHWH's sabbath?
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate (abolish) laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.
Hmmm......So the Pope has the authority to override YHWH, God, the Father?
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 26 Sep, 2015 01:16 PM
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
*** Well�Papa God gave the AUTHORITY to Kings of men because the Hebrews cry�d out to Papa God to give unto them as the �Other�s� had�and Kings of men Rule and Change all sorts of things to fit nicely into the �box� of Hierarchy �Ruler� of the times�such as the day of Sabbath rest�I�ve been told that Constantine �convert� to Christianity? And in so doing he obviously blended the Pagan seasonal holidays in with it. [[[ It�s a Roman Catholic thing ]]]�I�ve not research this so I�m sure he did convert.
One thing I am sure about is the Sabbath was NEVER Changed because the Sabbath from the Creation is still �Papa God�s� SABBATH and Holy Day of Rest�it Always will be because it is Recorded in Scripture and Scripture cannot be Broken John 10:35. Man just �thinks� he has changed it because man �thinks� he is superior to Papa GOD and His ways. That man can change whatever he wants to without consequence.
The Hebrew Israel Jews still honor the Sabbath as always and are still under the OT Covenant. We Christians are not under the same Covenant as the Hebraic Israel Jew. Christians are under the New Covenant of Faith in the Faith of Christ Jesus and Grace of Papa God with Liberty�We may keep the Hebraic Sabbath or Not�We may attend a Synagogue on Wednesday and Friday evening or Not�We may also attend Both or Not�We are to be FULLY persuaded in Our OWN Minds what is acceptable and what is not Rom 14:1-6. It is not about following a Set of Rules or Obligations or Works Col 2:14,16; 2:20-22. Its about Worship�Thanksgiving�Fellowship�Rest from labor....We all NEED Rest...and many never get it because they are working them selves into the early grave...
To continually argue about all these differences is just satans way of keeping the Body of Christ of Jesus continually divided. satan does not want us to COMPLETELY Rest in the LORD. satan�s �spirit of division� works subtly through unsuspecting folks to undermine the Completed WORK of Jesus!!!...Col 2:15
About the Pope�Don�t get me started on the Pope�Watching the Pope�s visit with all the peoples following kinda reminds me of the last part of Rev 13:3 and all the world wondered after the beast.
Jos 24:15�. but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 27 Sep, 2015 12:41 AM
Quote from GodsJude "The Hebrew Israel Jews still honor the Sabbath as always and are still under the OT Covenant. We Christians are not under the same Covenant as the Hebraic Israel Jew. Christians are under the New Covenant of Faith in the Faith of Christ Jesus and Grace of Papa God with Liberty�We may keep the Hebraic Sabbath or Not�We may attend a Synagogue on Wednesday and Friday evening or Not�We may also attend Both or Not�We are to be FULLY persuaded in Our OWN Minds what is acceptable and what is not Rom 14:1-6. It is not about following a Set of Rules or Obligations or Works Col 2:14,16; 2:20-22. Its about Worship�Thanksgiving�Fellowship�Rest from labor....We all NEED Rest...and many never get it because they are working them selves into the early grave..."
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1 John 2
3 Now by this we know that we know YAHWEH, if we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, �I know YAHWEH,� and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoever keeps YAHWEH�s commandments, truly the love of YAHWEH is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in covenant with Yahshua. 6 He who says he abides in covenant with Yahshua ought himself also to walk just as Yahshua walked (in obedience to The Law of YAHWEH). 7 Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning (The Torah). The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning (the Commandments of YAHWEH). 8 Again, a new commandment I write to you (here is the only new command in The Yahshuaic Covenant), which Spirit of loving obedience is true in Yahshua and in you
Ezekiel 36: 26, 27
I will give you a new heart (for my Law and write my Law on it) and put a new spirit (of loving obedience) in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone (legalistic observance of The Law out of fear of death) and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit of Truth in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
Matthew 5:16-18King James Version (KJV)
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 27 Sep, 2015 01:01 AM
Quote from GodsJude: "To continually argue about all these differences is just satans way of keeping the Body of Christ of Jesus continually divided. satan does not want us to COMPLETELY Rest in the LORD. satan�s �spirit of division� works subtly through unsuspecting folks to undermine the Completed WORK of Jesus!!!..."
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Luke 12:51
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division
John 7:43
So there was a division among the people because of him.
Romans 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
2 John 9-10King James Version (KJV)
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2 Corinthians 11New International Version (NIV)
11 I hope you will put up with me in a little foolishness. Yes, please put up with me! 2 I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to one husband, to Christ, so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him. 3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent�s cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 28 Sep, 2015 11:42 AM
Oh...Ok...Your one of those kinds of posters that doesn't discuss anything you post and only tosses out Scriptures...:ribbit:...Well thanks for the confirmation. God's continued Blessings and Wishing you the very Best of Luck in your new found realtionship here at CDFF. :waving: X <>< O
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 28 Sep, 2015 03:59 PM
Hi Hark,
I believe you are making the same mistake that many people make when reading the Scriptures, you do not tke tim to TRANSLATE, or do word studies.
The English word 'KEEP' is from the Greek word 'tereo', which means to guard, or to watch over, it does not mean to obey as the pastors force upon the sheeple.
Study that out, you will be surprised to see what a difference translating the Word can make.
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 28 Sep, 2015 10:37 PM
Quote fro GodsJude: "Oh...Ok...Your one of those kinds of posters that doesn't discuss anything you post and only tosses out Scriptures......Well thanks for the confirmation. "
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You're welcome.
Nothing that neither you nor I can say will trump scripture. End of discussion.
I liken that style of discussion to a conversation to a conversation that Yahshua had with Satan.
I often use this style when making scientific arguments too. It's kind of difficult for a rational person to argue against the facts.
I don't toss out scriptures, nor the law, nor the prophets. I'll leave that for those who hold more value for their doctrine and dogma, than they do for the truth.
Romans 3:31New International Version (NIV)
31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 28 Sep, 2015 10:49 PM
Quote from Gracenotworkssaves: "The English word 'KEEP' is from the Greek word 'tereo', which means to guard, or to watch over, it does not mean to obey as the pastors force upon the sheeple."
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I didn't mention anything about keeping pastors. I'll hyphenate, and add emphasis to, the scripture to make it a little easier for you to follow.
1 John 2
3 Now by this we know that we know YAHWEH, if we keep His COMMANDMENTS
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 29 Sep, 2015 09:16 AM
Shared ~ I liken that style of discussion to a conversation to a conversation that Yahshua had with Satan.
*** I call it "Dancing with the Devil" and I believe the same of your replies. I've had the opportunity to experience enough of it. I am so very Blessed for my LORD has taken the time to show me HIS Truth about the matter and I thank you for your time in sharing with me what you are all about. I will no longer converse with one such as you. :waving: X <>< O
Psalm 125:3-5
3 For the rod of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous; lest the righteous put forth their hands unto iniquity.
4 Do good, O LORD, unto those that be good, and to them that are upright in their hearts.
5 As for such as turn aside unto their crooked ways, the LORD shall lead them forth with the workers of iniquity: but peace shall be upon Israel.
Who Gave Constantine the Authority to Change YHWH's Sabbath?
Posted : 29 Sep, 2015 11:10 AM
George wrote: The English word 'KEEP' is from the Greek word 'tereo', which means to guard, or to watch over, it does not mean to obey as the pastors force upon the sheeple. Study that out, you will be surprised to see what a difference translating the Word can make.
George, PLEASE KNOW... If you look up this same word in English OR Spanish or Hebrew, or German, or In Aramaic it has the same meaning as in the Greek. There is no different definition for this word or any other word in the Greek as in the English dictionary or any other language.
The difference in word meaning in definition is how the word is being used or is meant to be used in a sentence as a verb or noun as it relates to its intent or purpose of usage.
If you KEEP, WATCH OVER, GUARD, PRESERVE, what does this mean? It means you are OBEYING the rule (s) of whatever the intent or purpose of the word as it is used... in order to accomplish the goal of what it is you're suppose to do, or the word is in reference to...KEEP!
God commands that we KEEP His commandments, so what does that mean?... IT MEANS TO GUARD, OBSERVE, OR OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS! to WATCH OVER, to PROTECT... you can't watch over or guard His Commandments UNLESS YOU OBEY THEM... :glow:
