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The Mysteries of Yeshua, semen as water, and women and birth
Posted : 18 Apr, 2015 08:40 AM

Hello Mimi,

Some people speak of "the Law of Moses", and think that because someone else said this, that it is true, that there was only "the Law of Moses"..



Did you know that the scripture actually records that there are two LAWS..?



But before we go much further, we need to clarify that the word "Towrah", does not mean the same thing as "Code" or "the ordinance of man does". In fact, it does not even mean "laws" or "codes", it means "Instruction". This is where a lot of people are terribly confused about the meaning of "Torah" as it is most often referred to today.



In order for us to comprehend the Old meaning, we need to look to the writings that are called "the New Testament".



In the New Testament, it states that there are "two ordinances", there is "the ordinance of man", which is written about in I Peter, and then there is "the ordinance of God", which is written about in Romans 13. It is here that most men are very messed up, and think that this "ordinance", or codified law, is telling the saint to "obey the government", when it is not. Even the disciples said, "we ought to obey God and not men", so we can see that the saints were never told to obey men.



We are to be respectful of the "codes" of men, as they are supposed to help society. If the codes do not aid society, we are not to obey them, pure and simple.



In fact, the New Testament writings have the word "ordinance" only twice in them, and they refer to 1) "the ordinance of God", and 2) "the ordinance of man".



"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation." Romans 13:2



"Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;" I Peter 2:13



Peter tells us, that the "ordinance of man" was given for two reason:



"..for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well." I Peter 2:14



Thus Romans shows the saint that they are to obey the laws/ordinance of the authority as set over us, which is called "the ordinance of God", and the ordinance of man, was given only "..for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well."



We, who are called to be saints, are not to obey the ordinance of man, if it violates the ordinance of God.



This, the fact that there are "two ordinances", two instructions, or two laws to live by, is the reason why Yeshua said to the Jews, when they asked if the Towrah said if it was "lawful to pay taxes", "to Caesar?"



Yeshua told them, "render to Caesar that which is Caesar's, and render unto God that which is God's".



What Yeshua was referring to, is that men are divided into two groups, the wicked, or natural man, and the righteous, or spiritual man.



All men, when they are born, do not receive the Holy Spirit when they are born. The Holy Spirit, or the Spirit of YHWH, is a gift, there is nothing anyone can do to receive the gift, they were chosen before time, for the Father to dwell in them. This is what the word "chosen" means. "Chosen?" Then that means that there are some that are not chosen.



All men and women and their offspring, except for Adam and Eve, and Yeshua, were born. In women's ovaries are the seeds of men, they were already there, you in your mother, your mother in her mother, and so on, and so on, all the way back to Eve, hence she is referred to as "the mother of all living".



Women are the tabernacle, behind their cervix's are their ovaries, and in those ovaries are men, some of which will be born to become vessels of mercy, prepared afore unto glory, and the remainder will become, if they are born, vessel of wrath. Not all of a woman's eggs in her ovaries will be born. Some women will not give birth at all. It is believed that there are about 1,000,000 eggs in every woman's ovaries. Because of the Fall, and disobedience, sin entered into everyone of those eggs, of every woman that would ever be born. Thus a woman's eggs are referred to as "the darkness", and those who receive the Holy Spirit in them at birth, they are "called from the darkness into the light".



Women are as the fertile field, their seed need water. Some men when they are born receive the Holy Spirit into them, and their semen is known as "living water", because it causes living to occur in those men and women, if it is sent to water one of Elohim's offspring at birth. This is what the Water Baptism is all about. Those who do not receive the Spirit of Elohim, have "stagnant water", and these men cause women to give birth to "the dead". This is why Yeshua said, "let the dead bury the dead".



THE DEAD ARE BORN SPIRITUALLY DEAD

"The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies." Psalms 58:3



THE RIGHTEOUS ARE RIGHTEOUS FROM THE WOMB

"But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's br-asts. 10I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly." Psalms 22:9-10



[See also Isaiah 49:1, Jeremiah 1:5, Galatians 1:15-16]



You may recall James writing about two waters coming out of one well? :



"Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh." James 3:11-12



It is written that the men of God, "out of their bellies shall flow rivers of living water". The Greek word for "belly" is "koilia". If you do a word search, you will find women that are pregnant, are with child in their koilia, or "lower abdomen". Hence, from the lower part of the abdomen, or the sensual organ, flows "rivers of living water". A man's "living water", which contains the Holy Spirit, goes and waters the seed that is "set apart", which is where the word "qodesh" or "holy" comes from:



"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." Jeremiah 1:5



This is the reason why the Fall was permitted, so that the Devil would get a people, sons and daughters, fools and harlots, and Elohim would be able to call and adopt His chosen ones, from women's wombs. All flesh became corrupted by the Fall. Satan became the Father of all flesh, because the woman's seed became corrupted by him:



"For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." Exodus 17:16



Amalek is a reference to the offspring of the Devil, they war with the chosen in every generation. If you are called to be light, need darkness to comprehend that you are light.



"Many are called [from the wombs of women] few are chosen [to be vessels for Elohim to dwell in]"~



There is only ONE Covenant, that YHWH Elohim will reveal to His chosen, Himself, throughout the 1,000 generations that are to be born:



8He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations." Psalms 105:8



Notice that this verse does not speak of "covenants", but of one covenant, an everlasting covenant.



This is why Peter wrote, "Ye are a chosen generation, a holy nation, a peculiar people.." [I Peter 2:9]



Those men and women, who were predestined, are called from the dark eggs into the light, in their generation.



You may recall that both John the Baptist and Yeshua, both told the Pharisees and Sadducees, that they were a "generation of vipers", referring to those men being born of the flesh and the Devil. Yeshua even called them "ye serpents"..



When the chosen are born, Elohim's Spirit begins to reside in them and He battles with Satan in the flesh. "If ye by the Spirit do mortify the flesh, ye shall live".



Satan teaches his offspring, from the womb, through their natural sinful flesh which was corrupted at the Fall.



Elohim teaches His offspring, called from the darkness, and ingrafted into the Tree of Life.



These are the Two Family Trees mentioned in the Book of Genesis.



All of the anointed writings, which are contained in the scripture, were written by men in whom Elohim did dwell in their generations. The Devil's Seed cannot read and comprehend the scripture, "why do ye not hear my word? even because ye are not able to". Thus it is written, "my sheep hear my voice", as well as, "and the voice of a stranger (the Devil) they will not follow".



Thus, the Old Testament writings, were all "Instruction", which was translated, by the Devil's Seed who took the anointed writings of Moses, and started "Judaism" with them. This is why Yeshua told them, "ye are of your Father the Devil, and the desires [will] of your father ye will do".



Yeshua's birth was unlike any other, for He was "the Lamb of God", He could not be born of a woman and man's conception, because it would have given him a body that was sinful. He had to be born of the virgin, whose womb had never given birth before. Not only did Elohim begin to dwell in Him at birth [the Water Baptism], which gave Him His Father's Spirit, but even His flesh had to be created, which made Him a sinless man.



Cain and Abel were the first two men, who were vessels, from the womb, for God and the Devil to dwell in.



If you will read and study all of the scripture which refer to "womb" and "generations" and "generation to generation", you will see that there is only one covenant. It was not fully comprehended in the Old Testament, because the Jews who picked up the Towrah, the Instruction of Yah to His chosen people, created the false religion of Judaism with it, which is why they attacked Yeshua and killed Him. He was telling the people the truth, and they were using the Towrah or Instruction of YHWH, to His chosen people.



In Romans 7 & 8 you will see where Paul is talking about there being TWO TOWRAHS or TWO LAWS, the one of the flesh, and the one of the Spirit of God. These two Towrahs war with each other:



"I find then a law [towrah], that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law [towrah] of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law [towrah] in my members, warring against the law [towrah] of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law [towrah] of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law [towrah] of God; but with the flesh the law [towrah] of sin." Romans 7"21-25



"There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the law [towrah] of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law [towrah] of sin and death. 3For what the law [towrah] could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4That the righteousness of the law [towrah] might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Romans 8:1-4



There is "THE LAW OF FAITH", and there is also "THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH".. You can refer to these also as "THE TOWRAH OF LIFE" and "THE TOWRAH OF DEATH".



These TWO TOWRAHS, or INSTRUCTIONS of the Two Fathers of Men, is why Yeshua said, "Ye do that which ye have heard of your father, and I do that which I have heard of my Father" [John 8:38].



Shalom,

Tony

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The Mysteries of Yeshua, semen as water, and women and birth
Posted : 18 Apr, 2015 10:34 AM

I originally wrote this as a response to a woman on here, who thinks that there are two covenants, that the Word of God changes. I did not mean to include her name, but that is ok, for this is something that all men and women need to read.



Jesus, whom I refer to, as a Messianic believer, as Yeshua, said that there are Two Fathers. He even told the Jews at Jerusalem, that their father was the Devil.



Can it really be, that beginning with Cain and Abel, God and the Devil began dwelling in men and women?



Can this be the reason why we see "foolish man" and "wise man", "virtuous woman" and "harlot" in the scripture?



Yes, it is~

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