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Can the "sinners prayer" be dangerous?
Posted : 10 Mar, 2015 01:26 PM

What Is the Sinner's Prayer?



By Tony Miano

edited by Matt Slick



The form of the �Sinner�s Prayer� that is under examination by CARM and that is also condemned as being dangerous is the prayer that contains biblically true elements (repentance, belief, praying to Jesus, etc.) but is then concluded with a statement such as, "Because you have prayed this prayer, you are now a Christian." This final statement of assurance of salvation is unbiblical because we are not saved by praying a special prayer. We are saved by the grace of God who calls us to repentance (Acts 17:30), grants us repentance (2 Timothy 2:25), and grants that we believe (Phil. 1:29). Salvation is God's work in us and though the Sinner's Prayer can be used in concert with salvation, it is not the thing that saves us.



This kind of prayer is often used at the end of a church service by a pastor or evangelist when the officiant of the service makes an invitation for people to accept Jesus Christ as their Savior. Many Christians also use the �Sinner�s Prayer� after sharing the gospel with an unsaved person � using it to encourage the unbeliever who seems willing to become a Christian to make a commitment to Jesus.



We want to avoid given a person a false sense of assurance regarding being saved.



It is okay to help someone pray to receive Christ. It is okay to inform people about what God requires, about our sinfulness, our need for repentance, and our need to confess Jesus as savior. It is okay to guide someone in a prayer or repentance and confession. But it is not okay to say that because they have prayed the prayer, they are now saved. Again, it is not the prayer that saves. It is an appeal to God through God's work in the person (John 6:44; 6:65).



What is not okay



When the �Sinner�s Prayer� (mentioned above) is employed, unbelievers are asked to repeat a prayer written by someone else (such as a prayer that appears at the end of a gospel tract); or they are asked to repeat the �Sinner�s Prayer" which is ad-libbed by the person sharing the gospel with them. Again, to make this point clear, the problem is that having prayed the �Sinner�s Prayer,� unbelievers are often assured, either by a pastor, evangelist, or Christian witness, that they are now a Christian because they �prayed the prayer.� This, assurance, is something that should not be offered since we cannot say that salvation is by a prayer formula.



Can God use the Sinner's Prayer to save someone? Of course he can. But that does not excuse us from the responsibility to offer a guarantee of salvation to someone who has prayed.



An example of the Sinner�s Prayer



�Jesus, I now realize I have sinned against you. Please forgive me of my sin. Please come into my life and change my heart. I want you to be my Savior. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.�



There are countless variations of the �Sinner�s Prayer�, some longer and some shorter than the above example. Proponents will often turn to passages such as the following for support of the tradition/practice:

�Matthew 7:7, "Ask, and it shall be given to you; seek, and you shall find; knock, and it shall be opened to you."

�Luke 18:10-14, "Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee, and the other a tax-gatherer. 11 �The Pharisee stood and was praying thus to himself, �God, I thank Thee that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax-gatherer. 12 �I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.� 13 �But the tax-gatherer, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, �God, be merciful to me, the sinner!� 14 �I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself shall be humbled, but he who humbles himself shall be exalted."

�Romans 10:9-10, "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved; 10 for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation."

�1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

�Revelation 3:20, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him, and will dine with him, and he with Me."



Each of the scriptures contain truths that are often woven into the Sinner's Prayer in an effort to bring a person to salvation. However, though the elements are true, we must be careful not to give anyone a false sense of assurance that they are saved simply because it offered a prayer.



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Can the "sinners prayer" be dangerous?
Posted : 10 Mar, 2015 05:11 PM

Can the "sinners prayer" be dangerous?



*** I don't believe so if it is sincerely from a broken and contrite heart...which is Godly Sorrow...It wasn't dangerous for King David the anointed of GOD as found in Psalm 51.



Some folks don't know how to pray and thats why examples are given...



Some folks don't know that the veil of trhe Holy of Holies has been ripped apart so we may Aproach and Speak Dirrectly to GOD the Father/Jesus/HolySpirit and not have to go through a Priest such as in the Catholic tradition...



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Posted : 10 Mar, 2015 08:45 PM

*** I don't believe so if it is sincerely from a broken and contrite heart...which is Godly Sorrow...It wasn't dangerous for King David the anointed of GOD as found in Psalm 51.





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Posted : 14 Mar, 2015 11:00 AM

I don't think these verses, or any others in this matter, support the idea that there needs to be a "sinners" prayer. None of these verses even imply that there is a prayer to be said. If we believe we are saved by grace then it is by God's working, not ours. It is when we come to know His grace that we respond in faith by believing. In fact even if a person becomes "saved" they are not necessarily a Christian. They are saved, or they are a believer. People become Christians by choice not by default. Being saved and being a Christian are two different things. Jesus didn't know what a Christian was when He was talking about salvation or being born from above/born again. No one did until a few decades later.



I don't think the early church ever had the concept of saying a prayer either. That seems to be a more recent development that came along with Dispensationalism and 20th century evangelists. I have heard that altar calls were started by the Methodist church because of the Catholic "altar call" to take communion. The idea was that instead of "accepting" the body and blood of Jesus you were "accepting" the salvation offered to you by His death on the cross. Then, in order to do this a person would confess their sins and say a prayer in which they "accepted" salvation and declared their belief in Jesus. This became very popular with the preaching by the Wesleys and soon became known as "accepting Christ". This may not necessarily be completely accurate but it is what I recall learning several years ago.

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Posted : 14 Mar, 2015 04:21 PM

Shared ~ I don't think these verses, or any others in this matter, support the idea that there needs to be a "sinners" prayer. None of these verses even imply that there is a prayer to be said.



*** Oh my...the question isn't does their need to be...the question is..."Can the "sinners prayer" be dangerous"...Of course you would say such...couldn't expect nothing less of a person that doesn't attend any Church for fellowship or learning at all...If I recall...you mentioned more than once that..."I am Not a Christain"...cuz Paul coined that phrase...so Anything that goes against the "Christian Status Quo" of your Carnal Understanding is not acceptable as truth...Geez...Louezzz...Martha don't need to go figer that one out...:laugh:... Anywho... I'm not here to Argue about a prayer...but ifin yall want or need to...have at it...:peace:



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Posted : 14 Mar, 2015 05:45 PM

hey somebuddy:excited:





I wonder if paul also kept his hair short because he did say:





Men are told that they should not have long hair in 1 Corinthians 11:14

, which states, "Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?" The verse does not say how long is too long. However, the passage is contrasting the long hair of women with the short hair of men. Certainly, men should have their hair short enough to distinguish them from a woman's hair style.





I mean ....if Paul is your "go> to >adviser".......????

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