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Biblically; What is the difference between the Body of Yeshua,and the 'church'
Posted : 18 Jan, 2015 02:02 PM

Hello everyone:



I ask the question;Biblically; What is the difference between the Body of Yeshua,and the 'church',as most people do not see any difference;because most people do not have any understanding of what GOD Almighty says about both.



The body of Yeshua is a living ORGANISM,while the 'church' is a dead ORGANIZATION.



The body of Messiah is what Yeshua is building,while men are busy building the organization the 'church'.

Mat 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My assembly, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against her.



Act 7:48 But the Most High does not dwell in temples made by hand, as the prophet says,

Act 7:49 "Heaven is My throne, and the earth a footstool of My feet; what house will you build Me," "says the Lord," "or what the place of My rest?"

Act 7:50 "Did not My hands make all these things?" Isa. 66:1, 2



Act 17:24 The God who made the world and all things in it, this One being Lord of Heaven and of earth, does not dwell in handmade temples,

Act 17:25 nor is served by hands of men, as having need of anything. For He is giving life and breath and all things to all.



The 'church' is a BUSINESS,one of if not the largest in this life.

The 501C-3 CORPORATION tax exempt status calls for the 'church' to be setup as a business,even to have a board of directors which one cannot find within the Word of GOD.



The Body of Yeshua has Messiah as its head,and there is not any type of a board of directors,as Messiah is the Beginning and the Ending of His body.

Rev 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, says the Lord, the One who is, and who was, and who is coming, the Almighty.



The 'church' does not pay taxes,which is a clear violation of the Word of YEHSUA,

Mat 17:24 And they having come into Capernaum, those receiving the didrachmas came to Peter and said, Does your teacher not pay the didrachmas?

Mat 17:25 He said, Yes. And when he entered into the house, Jesus anticipated him, saying, What do you think, Simon? From whom do the kings of the earth receive customs or tribute? From their sons or from strangers?

Mat 17:26 Peter said to Him, From strangers. Jesus said to him, Then truly the sons are free.

Mat 17:27 But that we may not offend them, going to the sea, throw in a hook and take the first fish coming up. And opening its mouth, you will find a stater. Taking that, give to them for you and Me.





Mat 22:17 Then tell us, what do You think? Is it lawful to give tribute to Caesar, or not?

Mat 22:18 But knowing their wickedness, Jesus said, Why do you test Me, hypocrites?

Mat 22:19 Show Me the tribute coin. And they brought a denarius to Him.

Mat 22:20 And He said to them, Whose image and inscription is this?

Mat 22:21 They said to Him, Caesar's. Then He said to them, Then give to Caesar the things of Caesar, and to God the things of God.

Mat 22:22 And hearing, they marveled. And leaving Him, they went away.



I hear within the 'church' that christians should confess their sins,yet why does not the 'church' ever confess their unbelief for not paying the taxes Messiah says they should pay.



Oh,that is right,i had forgotten,the 'Government' says that the 'church' does not have to listen to Yeshua,as they ( the government) have given the 'church' permission not to listen to Messiah on the basis that the 'church' has come under the authority of the government in accordance to 'churches' understanding Romans 13:1-3.

How about reading the next verse,to see why the body of Messiah is not to be under the goverments rule.

Rom 13:4 for it is a servant of God to you for the good. But if you practice evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword in vain; for it is a servant of God, an avenger for wrath to the one practicing bad things.

The government is to be doing GOOD for the people,yet cannot anyone see that ALL governments are not for the people but ONLY for themselves,the Banksters,and the business which the governments have their hands in.



Well,had the so called 'church' had a right understanding of the Word of GOD,they would be paying their taxes,and would reject ANY advancements by the government to not believe what Messiah says.



How any times will the 'church' quote this verse of Scripture,yet never go thru with PUBLICLY confessing their UNBELIEF.

2Chronicles 7:14 and My people, on whom My name is called, shall be humbled, and shall pray, and shall seek My face, and shall turn back from their evil ways, then I will hear from Heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.



Blessings

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Biblically; What is the difference between the Body of Yeshua,and the 'church'
Posted : 21 Jan, 2015 09:48 PM

When you think about it, Jesus never talked about the church as we know it. The Body of Christ (Yeshuah) is an idea of Paul's. Jesus referred to those who were called out of the world and into the Kingdom of Heaven. You don't need religion for that! That was Jesus whole point in all of His ministry. We can have the power to transcend (overcome) the world (politics and religion) by choosing to live by the power of the Spirit of God. The church as we know it was Paul's idea and he organized a religion around the mythology of Jesus and not the truth of His teachings. (Paul only quoted Jesus once.) Jesus never intended to create a religion. He was not a Christian and neither were any of His followers. Christians today never think about that.

The church is not the body of Yeshua. The body is made up of those who have found the truth of Yeshua's teachings and are living in the Kingdom of Heaven - the ones called out by the Spirit of God not the ones who "asked Jesus into their hearts", "accepted Jesus as their personal Savior" or have been baptized in water, taken communion or "found Jesus". Not all who are Christians are in the body and no all who are in the body are Christians.

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Biblically; What is the difference between the Body of Yeshua,and the 'church'
Posted : 26 Jan, 2015 05:17 PM

Here are some sites for the folks reading to visit and review their opinions about the Body of Christ and the Church ~ NJOY !!!

http://www.focusonthefamily.com/faith/the-study-of-god/why-study-god/what-is-the-church

http://doctrine.org/the-church-the-body-of-christ/ � this one has Scripture references � always verify the Scriptures � ;o)

http://www.allaboutgod.com/body-of-christ.htm

http://www.gotquestions.org/body-of-Christ.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_of_Christ

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