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Women who try to teach men are not obeying the Word of God.
Posted : 17 Sep, 2014 08:31 PM
To me, one of the most powerful scriptures in all the bible, when it comes to comprehend what faith in the Word of God, means, is where Adam and Eve are hiding and Adam tells God that the reason that they are hiding from Him, is because "I am naked".
God asks Adam, "Who told you that?"
You see, God asked Adam, "who told you that?", because He knew that He did not tell Adam that he was naked.
This is pretty much the problem with these women who are running around, trying to teach men. I can just hear God, when a man asks Him, "did you tell that woman to teach that to me?", and God asks him, "Who told you that?"
You see, it really does not matter how many hypocrites there are in Christianity, who tell you it is ok for women to preach and teach men, God never told a woman that they can teach men.
"Who told you that?"
What He did tell them, though, was to keep silent.
These women want to run around giving everybody advice on what this scripture means and what that scripture means, but they don't want to give themselves a dose of the same medicine.
Here is the scripture which prove to you, that women are not to teach men or usurp authority over men:
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp over the man, but to be in subjection." I Tim 2:12.
What part of "silence" do they not understand?
So you remember the next time you hear one of these strange women preachers, or teachers, or whatever they call themselves, trying to teach a man and usurp authority over the man, why don't you ask her, "Who told you that?"
Women who try to teach men are not obeying the Word of God.
Posted : 18 Sep, 2014 02:26 AM
Hello everyone:
Eph 4:8 Because of this, He says, "Having gone up on high, He led captivity captive," and gave "gifts to men." Psa. 68:18
(KJV+) WhereforeG1352 he saith,G3004 When he ascended upG305 onG1519 high,G5311 he led captivity captive,G162 G161 andG2532 gaveG1325 giftsG1390 unto men.G444
(LEB) Therefore it says, "Ascending on high he led captivity captive; he gave gifts to men."
(LITV) Because of this, He says, "Having gone up on high, He led captivity captive," and gave "gifts to men." Psa. 68:18
(YLT) wherefore, he saith, `Having gone up on high he led captive captivity, and gave gifts to men,' --
Eph 4:9 But that He went up, what is it except that He also first came down into the lower parts of the earth?
Eph 4:10 He that came down is the same who also went up above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.
Eph 4:11 And indeed He gave some to be apostles; and some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 with a view to the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ,
Eph 4:13 until we all may come to the unity of the faith and of the full knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be infants, being blown and carried about by every wind of doctrine, in the sleight of men, in craftiness to the deceit of error,
Eph 4:15 but speaking the truth in love, we may grow up into Him in all things, who is the Head, the Christ,
The word for 'men' is the Greek word 'anthropos' which means 'MANKIND;, yes both men and women.
Strong's Concordance
anthr�pos: a man, human, mankind
Original Word: ἄνθρωπος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: anthr�pos
Phonetic Spelling: (anth'-ro-pos)
Short Definition: a man, one of the human race
Definition: a man, one of the human race.
HELPS Word-studies
444 �nthrōpos � man, also the generic term for "mankind"; the human race; people, including women and men (Mt 4:19, 12:12, etc.).
444 (anthrōpos) relates to both genders (male and female) as both are created in the image of God � each equally vested with individual personhood and destiny (cf. Gal 3:28). Accordingly, the Bible uses 444 (�nthrōpos) of a specific man, woman, or class (type, group) of people � i.e. mankind in general (inclusive of every man, woman and child; see also 1 Cor 11:7). (435 /anḗr specifically refers to a male and 1135 /gynḗ to a female.)
[444 /�nthrōpos ("man") answers to the Hebrew term, ̓adam � and 435 (anḗr) answers to the Hebrew term ̓ish.
K. Wuest, "There are two words in Greek which mean 'man,' anēr, which refers to a male individual of the human reace, and anthrōpos, which is the racial, generic term, and which has the general idea of 'mankind' " (3, Great Truths to Live By, 46).]
Women who try to teach men are not obeying the Word of God.
Posted : 18 Sep, 2014 01:57 PM
Hello everyone:
This is so awesome,i was reading Marks response,and Versvias,then the Holy Spirit brought the Word of GOD Almighty to my mind concerning this very issue.
Now each person is to judge for themselves,if YESHUA,GOD ALMIGHTY, the Son of the Living GOD,the Saviour of mankind,the Lamb of GOD who is the Atoning sacrifice,for my sin,and the sin of the WHOLE WORLD,DID He make a mistake by telling WOMEN to go to the disciples,and to tell them of His resurrection.
Mat 28:1 But late in the sabbaths, at the dawning into the first of the sabbaths, Mary the Magdalene and the other Mary came to gaze upon the grave.
Mat 28:2 And, behold! A great earthquake occurred! For descending from Heaven and coming near, an angel of the Lord rolled away the stone from the door and was sitting on it.
Mat 28:3 And his face was as lightning and his clothing white as snow.
Mat 28:4 And those keeping guard were shaken from the fear of him, and they became as dead.
Mat 28:5 But answering, the angel said to the women, You must not fear, for I know that you seek Jesus who has been crucified.
Mat 28:6 He is not here, for He was raised, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord was lying.
Mat 28:7 And going quickly say to His disciples that He was raised from the dead. And behold! He goes before you into Galilee. You will see Him there. Behold! I told you.
Mat 28:8 And going away from the tomb quickly, with fear and great joy, they ran to report to His disciples.
Mat 28:9 But as they were going to report to His disciples, behold, Jesus also met them, saying, Hail! And coming near, they seized His feet and worshiped Him.
Mat 28:10 Then Jesus said to them, Do not fear. Go tell your brothers that they may go into Galilee, and there they will see Me.
Mar 16:1 And the sabbath passing, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of James and Salome, bought spices, so that coming they might anoint Him.
Mar 16:2 And very early on the first of the week, the sun having risen, they came upon the tomb.
Mar 16:3 And they said to themselves, Who will roll away the stone from the door of the tomb for us?
Mar 16:4 And looking up, they saw that the stone had been rolled back; for it was very large.
Mar 16:5 And having entered into the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right, having been clothed in a white robe. And they were much amazed.
Mar 16:6 But he said to them, Do not be amazed. You seek Jesus the Nazarene who has been crucified. He was raised. He is not here. See the place where they put Him?
Mar 16:7 But go, say to the disciples and to Peter, He goes before you into Galilee. You will see Him there, even as He told you.
Mar 16:8 And going out quickly, they fled from the tomb. And trembling and ecstasy took hold of them. And they told no one, not a thing, for they were afraid.
Mar 16:9 And having risen early on the first of the sabbath, He first appeared to Mary Magdalene, from whom He had cast out seven demons.
Mar 16:10 Going, that one reported to those having been with Him, mourning and weeping.
Mar 16:11 And those having heard that He lives, and was seen by her, they did not believe.
Luk 24:1 And the first of the sabbaths, while still very early, they came on the tomb, carrying spices which they prepared; and some were with them.
Luk 24:2 And they found the stone having been rolled away from the tomb.
Luk 24:3 And going in, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus.
Luk 24:4 And it happened, as they were perplexed about this, even behold, two men in shining clothing stood by them.
Luk 24:5 And they becoming terrified, and bowing their faces to the earth, they said to them, Why do you seek the living with the dead?
Luk 24:6 He is not here, but was raised. Remember how He spoke to you, yet being in Galilee,
Luk 24:7 saying, The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and to be crucified, and the third day to rise again.
Luk 24:8 And they remembered His Words.
Luk 24:9 And returning from the tomb, they reported all these things to the Eleven, and to all the rest.
Luk 24:10 And they were Mary Magdalene, and Joanna, and Mary mother of James, and the rest with them, who told these things to the apostles.
Luk 24:11 And their words seemed like foolishness to them, and they did not believe them.
Luk 24:12 But rising up, Peter ran to the tomb, and stooping down he saw the linen lying alone. And he went away wondering to himself at what had happened.
Joh 20:1 But on the first of the sabbaths, Mary Magdalene came early to the tomb, darkness yet being on it. And she saw the stone had been removed from the tomb.
Joh 20:2 Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple whom Jesus loved, and said to them, They took away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they laid Him.
Joh 20:3 Then Peter and the other disciple went out and came to the tomb.
Joh 20:4 And the two ran together, and the other disciple ran in front more quickly than Peter and came first to the tomb.
Joh 20:5 And stooping down, he saw the linens lying; however, he did not go in.
Joh 20:6 Then Simon Peter came following him, and went into the tomb and saw the linens lying.
Joh 20:7 And the grave cloth which was on His head was not lying with the linens, but was wrapped up in one place by itself.
Joh 20:8 Therefore, then the other disciple also entered, he having come first to the tomb, even he saw and believed.
Joh 20:9 For they did not yet know the Scripture, that it was necessary for Him to rise from the dead.
Joh 20:10 Then the disciples went away again to themselves.
Joh 20:11 But Mary stood outside at the tomb, weeping. Then as she wept, she stooped down into the tomb.
Joh 20:12 And she saw two angels in white, sitting one at the head, and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.
Joh 20:13 And they said to her, Woman, why do you weep? She said to them, Because they took away my Lord, and I do not know where they put Him.
Joh 20:14 And saying these things, she turned backward and saw Jesus standing, and did not know that it was Jesus.
Joh 20:15 Jesus said to her, Woman, why do you weep? Whom do you seek? Thinking that it was the gardener, she said to Him, Sir, if You carried Him away, tell me where You put Him, and I will take Him away.
Joh 20:16 Jesus said to her, Mary! Turning around, she said to Him, Rabboni! (that is to say, Teacher).
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:
The first witnesses of the Resurrection of Messiah were WOMEN.
The first EVANGELISTS,were WOMEN,AND they TESTIFIED to the MEN of the RISEN Yeshua.
How about this one,about Rhoda, HMMMMMMM,seems she told MEN about Peter being at a door,and they did not listen to her.
Act 12:1 And at that time Herod the king put forth the hands to oppress some of those of the assembly.
Act 12:2 And with a sword he did away with James the brother of John.
Act 12:3 And seeing that it was pleasing to the Jews, he added also to seize Peter, (and they were the days of Unleavened Bread )
Act 12:4 whom also capturing him, he put him into prison, delivering him to four sets of four soldiers to guard him, intending to bring him up to the people after the Passover.
Act 12:5 Then Peter was indeed kept in the prison, but fervent prayer was made by the assembly to God on his behalf.
Act 12:6 But when Herod was about to bring him out, in that night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, being bound with two chains, also guards were keeping the prison before the door.
Act 12:7 And, behold! An angel of the Lord stood by, and a light shone in the building. And striking Peter's side, he raised him up, saying, Rise up in haste! And the chains fell off from his hands.
Act 12:8 And the angel said to him, Gird yourself, and bind on your sandals. And he did so. And he said to him, Throw around your garment and follow me.
Act 12:9 And going out, he followed him, and did not know that this happening through the angel was real, but he thought he saw a vision.
Act 12:10 And going through a first and a second guard, they came on the iron gate leading into the city, which opened to them of itself. And going out, they went on one street; and instantly the angel withdrew from him.
Act 12:11 And having come, Peter said within himself, Now I know truly that the Lord sent out His angel and plucked me out of Herod's hand, and out of all the expectation of the people of the Jews.
Act 12:12 And considering, he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, the one being surnamed Mark, where many were gathered together, and praying.
Act 12:13 And Peter was knocking at the door of the porch, and a servant girl named Rhoda came near to listen.
Act 12:14 And recognizing Peter's voice, from joy she did not open the porch, but running in she reported Peter was standing before the porch.
Act 12:15 But they said to her, You are raving. But she insisted, holding it to be so. And they said, It is his angel.
Act 12:16 But Peter kept on knocking. And opening, they saw him and were amazed.
From these Scriptures,When a women had spoken to men about the risen Messiah,and to Peter standing outside a door the MEN did not believe them.
It would seem that men need to be more mindful of what women might be saying,as they could be speaking profound things being empowered of the Holy Spirit.
NOW had these women been SILENT,what might the outcome had been.
Finally: PAUL, writes a list of people he gives thanks to for their lives in helping him to minister the Word of GOD Almighty to the people.
The one calling themself spirit----- would say.
OH, but Paul was wrong,for lifting up WOMEN,because they should remain silent,and never talk with their husbands,or other men.
Women who try to teach men are not obeying the Word of God.
Posted : 18 Sep, 2014 04:53 PM
OOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSSSS:
I had forgotten to post this from Romans 16
I might not be the brightest bulb in the box,yet i will burn longer,hahahahaha.
Rom 16:1 But I commend our sister Phoebe to you, being a servant of the assembly in Cenchrea,
Rom 16:2 that you may receive her in the Lord, as is worthy of the saints, and may assist her in whatever thing she may need of you. For she also became a helper of many, and of myself.
Rom 16:3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus,
Rom 16:4 who laid down their neck for my soul, to whom not only I give thanks, but also all the assemblies of the nations.
Rom 16:5 And greet the assembly at their house, and my beloved Epenetus, who is a firstfruit of Achaia for Christ.
Rom 16:6 Greet Mary, who did much labor for us.
Rom 16:7 Greet Andronicus and Junias, my kinsmen and fellow prisoners, noted among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.
Rom 16:8 Greet Amplias my beloved in the Lord.
Rom 16:9 Greet Urbanus, our helper in Christ, and my beloved Stachys.
Rom 16:10 Greet Apelles, the approved in Christ; Greet those of Aristobulus.
Rom 16:11 Greet Herodion, my kinsman. Greet those of Narcissus, those being in the Lord.
Rom 16:12 Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa, those laboring in the Lord. Greet Persis the beloved, who has labored in many things in the Lord.
Rom 16:13 Greet Rufus, the chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
Rom 16:14 Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermas, Patrobas, Hermes, and the brothers with them.
Rom 16:15 Greet Philologus and Julias, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints with them.
Rom 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. The assemblies of Christ greet you.
Rom 16:17 And brothers I exhort you to watch those making divisions and causes of stumbling contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and turn away from them.
Rom 16:18 For such ones do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth speaking and flattering they deceive the hearts of those without guile.
Rom 16:19 For your obedience reached to all; therefore, I rejoice over you. But I desire you to be truly wise as to good, but simple toward evil.
Rom 16:20 And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Rom 16:21 Timothy, my fellowworker, and Lucius, and Jason, and Sosipater, my kinsmen, greet you.
Rom 16:22 I, Tertius, the one writing the epistle, greet you in the Lord.
Rom 16:23 Gaius, the host of all the assembly and me, greets you. Erastus, the steward of the city, and Quartus the brother, greet you.
Rom 16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Rom 16:25 Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel, and the proclaiming of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery having been kept unvoiced during eternal times,
Rom 16:26 but now has been made plain, and by prophetic Scriptures, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known for obedience of faith to all the nations;
Rom 16:27 to the only wise God through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever. Amen.
Women who try to teach men are not obeying the Word of God.
Posted : 28 Sep, 2014 03:47 AM
Why men also does a lie? Because of disobidience to God Adam in
the first place is ahead of Eve next to God who himself know
exactly what is the law of God the Father that never eat the fruit
of knowledge. Why he did eat it when he sees Eve tempted by
the serpent that suppose to be he was the one to fight the
serpent by word of God not to eat it and save/hold Eve from
temptation instead he also eat it. When God asks them he knew
that he is nude because he eats the fruit of knowledge & not Eve
who influenced him to say it to God. Our forefather Adam is a liar
not to tell God that he is also tempted although he knew the truth about that fruit of forbidden too where the malice come
by eating it & not because what eve said.
Analyze it Eve is the first who ate its fruit that's why she awake that she is nude then Adam but if Adam never entertain that temptation istead pray to God to forgive Eve's
did or both of them i'm sure God of forgiveness will forgotten
what they did but Adam as a head of his own tempted but never repented just blaming what he did to his own body is Eve.
Remember, Eve extracted from the rib of Adam so women will inherit the kingdom of God too.
Like me if i meet the man who doesn't believe that there is God the Father & the son Jesus christ & the holy spirit in 3 persona
so this man cannot able to lead me but i'll be the one to spred the good news from God!
Women who try to teach men are not obeying the Word of God.
Posted : 1 Oct, 2014 08:17 AM
The Prophetess Debra, gave orders to Barak in Judges 4-5.
And although Esther did ask advise of Mordecai; we also see her giving him a command to fast for three days, and not only him, but all the Jews; Esther 4:15-17.
Huldah the Prophetess gave God's message to King Josiah and the people of Judah, II Kings 22:14-20; II Chronicles 34:21-28.
The Prophetess Anna, also taught of Jesus for the redemption of Israel, Luke 2:36-38
Apollo was taught not only by the husband, Aquila, but also his wife Priscilla the way of God more perfectly. Acts 18:1-2, 26
As I believed was stated earlier when all Jesus Apostles who were males abandon Him, many of the women clanged unto Him, even at the threat of death, and at His death on the Cross, only John was there with many of the women disciples.
I agree that no woman should practice authority over men, but this does not prohibit them, from teaching those of us who are willing to listen, and it most definitely does not mean that a woman should keep silent if false doctrine is being taught.
