Thread: The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
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The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
Posted : 23 Jul, 2014 04:32 AM
May I be blunt, and share with you, the real reason why nearly all marriage do not last..?
It has to do with men and women not comprehending "the Proxies of Deity" being in men (vessels), which began after the fall, with Cain and Abel as the first men in which God and His adversary dwelt..
One man, when he is born, is born to represent the Devil in a generation; one man when he is born, is born to represent God. This is what Paul is writing about in Romans 9, where he refers to "a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction", and "a vessel of mercy prepared afore (the Foundation of the World) unto glory":
"Hath not the Potter power over the clay, over the whole lump (all of mankind when created) to make one vessel unto dishonor and another unto honor?" Romans 9:21
One of the greatest mysteries of the scripture surrounds why Adam was created alone, and how both he and His Father created darkness and light..
If you will go to Genesis 1, you will see "And DARKNESS was upon the face of the deep"... "And God (Elohim) said, 'Let there be LIGHT, and there was LIGHT".
Later we see Adam demonstrate that he was truly made in the image of God, when he, too, entered into the earth (Eve's womb), and created Cain and Abel. Cain, which John the Beloved said was of the wicked one" was born first to symbolize the DARKNESS in him, and then Abel his brother was born, to symbolize the LIGHT in him. Cain killed Abel because Cain was wicked and Abel righteous.
If you were married and your marriage failed, it was because you were married to a spiritual son or daughter of Cain, a son/daughter of the Devil, and because you were LIGHT, they sought to use you and enslave you, and God caused you to come out of that darkness:
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of Him Who hath called you out of the darkness into His marvelous light." 2 Peter 2:9
Men are either representative proxies of God or the Devil in each generation. This is why both Jesus (Yeshua) and John the Baptist referred to the Jews (those who were of Satan's Seed in that generation) as "generation of vipers" and/or "generation of serpents". This is a reference to these men and women being connected spiritually through spiritual genealogy to the Serpent in the Garden:
"But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said to them, 'O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?' " Matthew 3:7
"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how shall ye escape the damnation of hell?" Jesus, Matthew 23:33
Most people today believe in an ancient heresy called "dualism", which is the notion that Sahtahn and Elohim rule the world together. This, which you believe, is also called "Polyarchy" or "many rule". Common sense should tell you that two cannot rule. This is the fictionalized notion behind the Sahtahnic government which is deceiving the whole world. Its propaganda has been imputed into man and woman through socio-economic and psychological means for thousands of years. You need to read the book "Propaganda" by Edward Bernays (1928), which will explain to you how men work to shape the societal mindset, hence you have been brainwashed all of your life so that you would think as you do. This form of government, where a congress appears to rule is called "bicameralism", and it originated in ancient Mesopotamia. Do yourself a favor, now, and research this, and you will be blessed.
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING written in the scripture which states that man and woman are to share rule, this is a lie, and it totally contradicts the scripture:
"He shall RULE over you" (God/Elohim to Eve, regarding Adam have been given complete authority over her. This is written in Genesis 3.
"Wives SUBMIT to your husbands in EVERYTHING". Well that pretty much sums it up. "EVERYTHING" is to be submitted to the husband, not "some of it", as you are led to think. That verse is written in Ephesians 5.
Man, not woman, is made in the image of God/Elohim. The woman was made in the image of the man. As Elohim had been alone, until He created Adam, so Adam was alone, too, until Elohim created Eve, so that Adam would comprehend that he was little deity.
The scriptures were written by Sons of God, and not one chapter was written by a woman. The Devil's Seed hate the Word of God, and twist it to make it appear that they comprehend it, when they do not. Women are commanded throughout the entire volume to SUBMIT to men, because men take on the roles of Deity/deity after the fall. This modern nonsense or "equal rights" or the false notion of women and men sharing rule together, only came about in the last couple hundred years, . It is not written in the scripture.
If you run to someone who has been bombarded with propagandized false doctrines, who shares the same bent mindset as most today, what do you think they are going to tell you? Something other than which they, too, believe/think? If you run to a woman minister, and ask her about this, she will have a hissy-fit, because this whoredom of women preaching is a new modern phenomena, and is not biblical.
The man or woman that you were with, did not know what it meant for a man to rule over the woman, and this is the reason why marriages are doomed from the start.
The word "SUBMIT" means, "one who is under the authority or control of another".
There can only be one who is under authority, which is what the word "SUBMIT" means. The woman had to lay, submit to Adam, so that he could enter into her, signifying the dust submitting to Elohim. This is why man and woman have different genitals, one seemingly weak and void, and the other possessing great strength. This is how man was made in the image of God. Two cannot be submitted at the same time, to each other, this is impossible.
After the Garden men take on the persons of Deity; one True, one False. This is who Cain and Abel were. One man was made in the image of God and one in the image of God's contrasting mechanism, the Devil. We see as Elohim created darkness, and then light, so Adam, who was made in the image of God/Elohim, created darkness and light in Eve's womb.
Thus there are Two Spiritual Fathers, though you are not told this by modern Christianity, nor Judaism. Only the Fathers, the Two Fathers, can teach their male offspring:
"I do that which I have seen of my Father, and ye do that which ye have seen of your father (the Devil)." John 8:38
There were no women present when the Sons of Light (God) were battling the Sons of Darkness (Sahtahn) in the Temple at Jerusalem.
This fake religion called Judaism had seized upon the sanctified writings, almost instantly when Moses came off the mount. It was the Devil's Seed in the camp, which he observed making a golden calf upon his return. It was the Devil's offspring which were disobedient unto the Words of Elohim/YHWH..
Both religions (Judaism and Christianity) are evil. Notice that I did not state that 'the scripture is evil', but the twisting of it by these two apostate religions which use the scripture to generate capital, and thus have made a mockery out of its sanctified message. Both are impostors..
Judaism and the Hebrew Roots gang* (*those claiming to be "Messianic"), are one in the same, though to hear them tell it, they are different. Not hardly..
The proxies of the Gods (Elohim) clashed at Jerusalem, and the battle was over how the Word of God/Elohim was being twisted.
May it please the Father, if you are His chosen seed, to bless you exceedingly, and in accordance with His eternal plan and will~
The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
Posted : 23 Jul, 2014 01:24 PM
Shared ~ One of the greatest mysteries of the scripture surrounds why Adam was created alone, and how both he and His Father created darkness and light..
*** Blasphemy�Right out of the Gate you deny Jesus�Yahshua�you deny His Word�and Scripture�You preach a form a Gnostic Dualism�Adam and GOD did not create darkness and light�Yahweh, Yahshua, Rauch (Holy Spirit) did�Please refer back to the Genesis 1:1-31 the creation account and the order in which it happens then read�
John 1 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Shared ~ The man or woman that you were with, did not know what it meant for a man to rule over the woman, and this is the reason why marriages are doomed from the start.
*** You are preaching failed marriage and women�s error and neglect man�s own negligence in the matter from the beginning ?
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 3:9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
*** Where are YOU Adam ??? Many people wonder. Where was Adam when Eve the �weaker vessel� was being tempted and deceived ??? Many came to the conclusion that Adam wasn�t doing his job. He wasn�t �Ruling� over her as GOD gave �them� "Dominion" over all as in�
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: [[[ and let ( them ) have dominion over ]]] the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
*** See here it says �and let them have dominion� which is�
Strong's H7287 - radah - to rule, have dominion, dominate, tread down
*** So it doesn�t say man only nor woman only�GOD says "let them" however some will disregard this and pich and choose what GOD says...Not a good idea at all...
1. Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
From - Strong's H5344 � naqab- to pierce, perforate, bore, appoint
*** Interesting�
*** Each is Created by GOD for God and His purpose�not mans or womans�
*** And of course in today�s times some men only see the word �Submit��and yet do not understand that the �Submit� is to Yahweh 1st. Both Adam and Eve Did NOT Harkin unto the Word of the LORD. Both �Sinned�. Both Failed, Both Chose not to believe GOD�s Command and Turned from HIM. Both Paid the Penalty. Separation from GOD in the Spirit and Death. And today Both man and woman ARE Redeemed from the Curse of that Sin Through Yahshua and only Through HIM��Both� MUST �Submit� unto the LORD and to �Each Other��in everything and in marriage�
1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
*** �But I would have you know��We need to know that God is Order and not Confusion�
*** Here is Hierarchy as I understand it�
*** Yahweh ~ elohiym ~ Yahshua ~ Jesus ~ Adam ~ Man ~ Eve ~ Women�etc�etc�etc
*** Failed marriages happen because of the Failure to �Submit� to GOD and His Teachings�Torah�
Shared ~ The word "SUBMIT" means, "one who is under the authority or control of another".
*** Let�s look at some Scripture pertaining to marriage and submission since that is the main topic�
Ephesians 5:21-23
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
*** �Submitting� �ONE� to another�
Submitting - Strong's G5293 - hypotasso - to arrange under, to subordinate - to yield to one's admonition or advice �
from Strong's G5021 � tasso - to appoint mutually, i.e. agree upon
�One to another�
Strong's G240 � allelon - one another, reciprocally, mutually -
22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
*** Yes !!! Wives�Submit yourselves to your own [[[ husbands ]]] ( plural ) As Unto the LORD. And who is the LORD ???. Yahshua�Jesus for He is the Groom and we are His Bride�
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Shared ~ There can only be one who is under authority, which is what the word "SUBMIT" means. The woman had to lay, submit to Adam, so that he could enter into her, signifying the dust submitting to Elohim. This is why man and woman have different genitals, one seemingly weak and void, and the other possessing great strength. This is how man was made in the image of God. Two cannot be submitted at the same time, to each other, this is impossible.
*** All are to submit to GOD. I�ve noticed this poster has a passion for speaking about genitals particularly of mans being powerful. Yes man is the man and woman is the woman. The man carries and plants the seed of human kind and the women nurtures it. They BOTH have a part to play. �ONE� flesh. �BOTH���Together�. It is GOD�s plan and way. It is so in the animal kingdom. Just for Contemplations Sake,
*** The Lioness hunts for the food for her young. She protects them from all harm. And she will walk away from a kill if the Sire Lion has come for food which he doesn�t hunt for himself nor does he raise his young. Yet the lioness will affectionately love, nurture, clean and submitting to him. She does so not because she is Commanded to. She does so because it is her nature to love, nurture, clean and submit to Him the �ONE� that GOD has created her for.
Mat 19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but [[[ one ]]] flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
and
Mark 10:9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
*** Christ Jesus is referred to as the Lion of Judah and rightly so as it is written�
Isaiah 65:9 And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there.
*** Judah was destroyed but the �Seed� of Jacob wasn�t. That �Seed� is carried on and is Yahshua�
Yahshua - Jesus IS the Good Sheppard of the flock. He Leads. He goes Before US and Fights the Battles. He Chastens. He Comforts. And He Redeems and Restores. HE Gives ETERNAL LIFE.
*** Let us Relect and Meditate upon Scripture�
John 10:24-30
24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
*** Jesus speaking ~
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
*** A person does well to hear the Shepherds voice over all others�
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
*** YES!!!...Yahshua and the father are ONE and the same�
*** Personally I am more concerned with my Marriage and Submission to HIM than to a man that has yet to understand that woman is HIS partner. His Help Meet. �Equal� in person and Different �Physically� and in �Abilities�. Together they are as Strong as the Foundation which is built Upon and in Christ Jesus�Yahshua Messiah !!!
Rom10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their [[[ own ]]] righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
*** That word �own� in this verse is G2398 ~ idios which is where we get the word �idiot� from�and means - pertaining to one's self, one's own, belonging to one's self�
*** There is no GOD to submit to when one is �pertaining to one�s self� and this is why I believe marriages fail�
*** Perhaps this poster desires we shall read his words and accept them as sweet honey ? I will remind those that read here in the Forums that this poster has accused many women here in the past of not submitting and others of being satans seed.
*** I�ve yet to see this person Preach GOD�s Kingdom or Salvation nor does he speak much if very little about Yahshua � Jesus�
*** Its up to the individual reader to�
2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
1 Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
*** May the LORD of our Redemption and Mercy be Forever Praised in Glory Forever and Ever�Amen!...AMEM !!!
The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
Posted : 23 Jul, 2014 05:52 PM
Actually in the NT there are 2 reasons that a believer may divorce his or her spouse. Jeus said that you may divorce if your partner is unfaithful. However, Jesus also says you should forgive other believers including your believing mate if you want God to forgive you.
However, Paul says in I Corinthians 7 that you can divorce your unbelieving mate if they leave you even though you have been a good partner but you may not divorce a believing mate.
I Corinthians 7:10-16: To the married I give this command {not I but the Lord}: A wife must not separate from her {believing} husband. But if she does, she MUST remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his {believing} wife. To the rest I say this{I, not the Lord}. If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him...But if the unbeliever leaves let him do so. A believing man or woman is *NOT BOUND* in such circumstances. God has called us to live in peace. How do you know wife, whether you can save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you can save your wife?
So the only divorce allowed in the NT is that YOU CAN DIVORCE AN UNBELIEVING MATE IF THEY REFUSE TO LIVE WITH YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN A GOOD AND FAITHFUL HUSBAND! If a believer sinfully divorces a believer they must remain unmarried or be reconciled to their former mate.
A lot of people do not realize that ALL VOWS including wedding VOWS are sinful in the NT according to Matthew 5:33-37 and James 5:12: ABOVE ALL, my brothers, do not swear--not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. Let your "Yes" be yes, and your "No," no, or you will be condemned!
Matthew 5:33,34,37: Jesus says, "Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago,{OT LAW} 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths, you have made to the Lord' But I tell you, do not swear AT ALL...Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one!"
The Lord also commands us to not even date an unbeliever such as a Muslim or a Roman Catholic.
There are some who say marraige is like a 3-ring circus: First there is the engagement ring Next comes the marraige ring and then comes the SUFFER RING. :-))
The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
Posted : 24 Jul, 2014 03:17 AM
Wombmen cannot teach, cannot emit seed, for they have no testes, no privy member. Therefore they cannot be kohenim, but are as ha'mishkan..:
"He that is wounded in the stones or hath his privy member cut off shall not enter into the congregation of YHVVH (the LORD)." Deut 23:1
Enough of this strutting around as though the peahen is the peacock.. Even the peafowl know their places. The glory of the Creator was placed upon the male..
If wombmen were to travel to Jerusalem, to the Wailing Wall, and go the the Wall, they'd be forced to be segregated from the men by a fence, per Elohim's instructions. Try to pass over to where the men are, and you will be arrested and hauled off.
"Let your wombmen keep silence in the churches"..?
"I suffer not the woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man"..
It is absurd for a woman to think that she can truly mount a man and impute seed into him.
It is blasphemy for a woman to even open her mouth and attempt to handle the Torah, or "spew seed", for the wombman is symbolic of Eve who was not present when Elohim/YHVVH made Adam. As Adam was the original "seed catcher", so the woman was designed and purposed to be the permanent seed-catcher throughout time; hence, her womb is without any strength.
Do I hear silence..?
Only those men, in which the Fathers (Two of Them) dwell can discuss true or false religion. These men represent YHVVH and STN:
"I do that which I have seen of my Father, and ye do that which ye have seen of your father." John 8:38
The Doctrine of the Two Fathers is not gnosticism; it is truth spoken of and written of, in the sanctified scripture.
The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
Posted : 24 Jul, 2014 07:55 AM
HA!!!...Yup-A-Roo...and now comes forth the spew towards women and calling such a peacock confirms and validates the continued degradation which this poster is well known for...LORD have Mercy!!!...He has returned with a vengeance ~ meaning ~ punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong.
I thank you Father that vengeance is yours and yours alone...
Rom 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
The reason why marriages fail is because the Proxies of Deity are not comprehended in marriage
Posted : 24 Jul, 2014 02:22 PM
Sir you are a " true" something or other but it isnt a saint! You spew HERESY against the deity of Christ.
REPENT! And be saved! You are worshiping lying demons
Revelation 20:10
And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Romans 16:17 ESV
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
Ephesians 5:11 ESV
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.
