Author	Thread: Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb
Admin	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 20 Jan, 2014 06:57 AM The word "holy" is originally from the Hebrew word "qodesh" [H-6944] which means "set-apart" or "sanctified" for this noble use by God the Father. Were you set apart from your mother's womb, to the noble use, of the Father dwelling in you? Does His Spirit reside in you? Is, God the Father, your God/Elohim (Old Testament), from your mother's womb? "But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's bosom. I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly." Psalms 22:9-10 This is what the Water Baptism is all about. It is the Father taking His chosen from their mother's amniotic fluids, and then dwelling in them: "But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, 16To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:" Galatians 1:15-16 Post Reply
View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 20 Jan, 2014 10:20 PM "This is what the Water Baptism is all about. It is the Father taking His chosen from their mother's amniotic fluids, and then dwelling in them:" Are you kidding? Really? It's waaaaaaayyy to much of a reach to actually be true. So, I'd say it's not. I've heard more errant interpretations of baptism than I care to count but this is by far the most far fetched one I've ever heard. What do you have to back this theory up? Post Reply
View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 20 Jan, 2014 11:24 PM It is obvious from your comments, that you are seeking to have me "persuade" you, and that is not how the sheep are led to believe.. We see this same very odd comment from Agrippa to Paul, who tells Paul, that he was almost able to persuade him to becoming a believer, but Paul said nothing: "Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian." Acts 26:28 What you ask, "what more do you support this for me, so as to enable me to (like Agrippa) become a believer, if I want"", is not scriptural, at all... Sorry friend, but you do not get to choose if you want salvation, or not, that is not your choice. You are confusing truth with a lie, which is what the "free will gang"" teach, which is not scriptural.. Let me give you a couple of examples of how absolutely messed up this doctrine of free will truly is.. It is written, "blessed are you Peter, for flesh and blood hath not revealed this to you - but the Father", but you somehow think that the scripture is a lie, elsewise you would not contradict the very scripture which you claim to believe, and ask me (a flesh and blood man) to provide you with "support" in coming to faith: "And Jesus answered him, �Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 16:17 Here is Paul, writing the same thing, that "the gospel which was preached of me is not after man", but yet you now want to call Paul a liar, as well: "But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ." Gal 1:11-12 Here, are two more examples, that you do not get to choose, if you are going to be believe, or not. Jesus is in the Temple, in Solomon's Porch, and the Jews (who were the Devil's Seed, in His generation) surround Him, and ask Him, why He is making them to doubt. They ask "if you are the Messiah, then just plainly tell us". What Jesus says to them next, destroys this false doctrine of Christianity completely. Jesus tells them, "but you do not believe, because YOU ARE NOT OF MY SHEEP": "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:26-27 If you were one of the sheep, then you would believe. Belief is predicated upon being one of the chosen, not on what you think. You see, you have been listening to men, who have been lying to you. They have told you, "you can believe, and become one of the sheep, if you want", whereas the scripture states, that you have to be one of the sheep in order to believe. Do you see how they have lied and twisted the scripture? Did you get that? If you do not believe, it is not because you do not want to, it is because you are not able to: "Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word." John 8:43 The sheep hear the Father's Voice, not man's, and they come to that call. Furthermore, they do not listen to any other's voice, other than the Father: "And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." John 10:5 Post Reply
View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 06:15 AM Sorry friend, but you do not get to choose if you want salvation, or not, that is not your choice. You are confusing truth with a lie, which is what the "free will gang"" teach, which is not scriptural.. *** Here we go again...:rolleyes:...LORD have Mercy!!!...xo Post Reply
View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 12:19 PM Salvation is a choice, otherwise the words of the Christ in Mark 16 would be empty. Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 01:16 PM I thought baptism was a symbol of burial and resurrection? The analogy of "birth" is used, but only in the sense of new life. Amniotic fluid? Really? Only Nicodemus related it to literally entering into a womb again, and Jesus corrected him, noting that He was speaking of spiritual things. "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." :peace::peace: Post Reply
DontHitThatMark View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 21 Jan, 2014 01:21 PM Expound to us the scriptures, like Paul needed, like the Ethopian needed. Maybe we're just ignorant and you are to gently instruct and edify us? That's in the bible. There's nothing in there that says you aren't supposed to share the truth to those who are willing to listen. "And some of them were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of the God-fearing Greeks and a number of the leading women." "And he was reasoning in the synagogue every Sabbath and trying to persuade Jews and Greeks." :peace::peace: Post Reply
View Profile History	Water Baptism: sanctification from the womb Posted : 27 Jan, 2014 05:56 AM "I thought baptism was a symbol of burial and resurrection? "....? Water Baptism is the expression of one having been raised from the dead. That is only comprehended when one views being part of the race of men, yet unborn and undelivered, as being dead and in darkness. When you see your form in your mother's womb, as in need of redemption and salvation, even then, then you see the Water Baptism as the Father coming to you, in the womb. How else could He say through Isaiah (?): "Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: 4And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you." Isaiah 46:3-4 Now, you ask yourself, "Has Abba (Father) been carrying me from my mother's womb?" If you can say "yes", then this is what "holy", "sanctified", or "set-apart" means. Post Reply