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After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven
Posted : 28 Dec, 2013 07:09 AM

Revelation 4 (NKJV)



The Throne Room of Heaven



1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven. And the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking with me, saying, �Come up here, and I will show you things which must take place after this.�



2 Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. 3 And He who sat there was[a] like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. 4 Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns[b] of gold on their heads. 5 And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices.[c] Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the[d] seven Spirits of God.



6 Before the throne there was[e] a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature like a calf, the third living creature had a face like a man, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle. 8 The four living creatures, each having six wings, were full of eyes around and within. And they do not rest day or night, saying:





�Holy, holy, holy,[f] Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!�



9 Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying:





11 �You are worthy, O Lord,[g] To receive glory and honor and power; For You created all things,

And by Your will they exist[h] and were created.�





Footnotes:

a.Revelation 4:3 M-Text omits And He who sat there was (which makes the description in verse 3 modify the throne rather than God).

b.Revelation 4:4 NU-Text and M-Text read robes, with crowns.

c.Revelation 4:5 NU-Text and M-Text read voices, and thunderings.

d.Revelation 4:5 M-Text omits the.

e.Revelation 4:6 NU-Text and M-Text add something like.

f.Revelation 4:8 M-Text has holy nine times.

g.Revelation 4:11 NU-Text and M-Text read our Lord and God.

h.Revelation 4:11 NU-Text and M-Text read existed.



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After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven
Posted : 28 Dec, 2013 10:23 AM

Yes, there is a door we can walk through where Jesus is waiting and expecting us to get our acts together and join with Him who is at the right hand of the Father.



Heb.10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;



13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.



Seven times the scriptures tell us Jesus is at the right hand of God where he will remain until His enemies are made His footstool with the slight change in this last time because he is expecting us to show up there with Him rather than come down here and kill all the enemies of God as commonly taught in most churches.



We were all at one time enemies of God but for those who have been willing to become His footstool through lifting Him up in our daily lives and walk, he will teach us the truths that will allow us to sit with Him in high places while we are still on earth and in this life



Paul understood this very well....



Romans 10:6

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)



Stephen experienced this with his last breath and while still alive on earth just before he asked God to forgive those who murdered him



Acts 7: 55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,



56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.



57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,



58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.



59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.



60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge.



Blessings to you,



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After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven
Posted : 28 Dec, 2013 06:25 PM

"FLESH AND BLOOD CANNOT INHERIT THE *KINGDOM* OF GOD!!"



Hebrews 12:26-28: God says, "Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens. The words "once more" indicate the removing of what can be shaken--that is created things--so that what cannot be shaken may remain. Therefore, since we are receiving a *KINGDOM* that can not be shaken let us be thankful...for our God is a consuming fire!



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the Historicists} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.



I Corinthians 15:50--51: I declare to you brothers, that flesh and blood CANNOT INHERIT the *KINGDOM OF GOD*... Listen I tell you a mystery: we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet."



John 18:36: Jesus says, "My *KINGDOM* is not of this world....But now, my Kingdom is from another place!!"



Matthew 25:31-34: Jesus says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory , and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His throne in heavenly glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people on from another..He will put the sheep on the right and the goats on His left. Then the King will say to those on His right, "Come you who are blessed of My Father, take your inheritance, the *KINGDOM* prepared for you!!"



WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR THE NEW EARTH, THE NEW HEAVENS AND THE HEAVENLY NEW JERUSALEM!!



Revelation 21:1-5: Then I saw a New heaven and a New Earth, for the {present} first heaven and first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the **NEW JERUSALEM**, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and He will live with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them. They will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes, There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making **EVERYTHING NEW**!" Then He said, "Write this down, for these words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!"



2 Peter 3:10-13: But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will DISAPPEAR with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and *EVERYTHING* in it will be burned up {NIV}. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you wait eagerly for the Day of God to come. {NIV} That Day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with His promise **WE** {Excluding the Preterists and the RC church} are looking forward to a New heavens and a New Earth, the home of righteousness.



Hebrews 11:13-16: All these people {Abraham, Sarah Isaac, Jacob, Noah etc} were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were looking for a BETTER COUNTRY--a HEAVENLY ONE. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a *CITY* (The *NEW JERUSALEM*} for them!!



Galatians 4:25,26: Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the **JERUSALEM** that is **ABOVE** is free, and she is our MOTHER !!



Revelation 22:16,18,19: "I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches.....I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this Book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book {Including eternel hell}. And if anyone takes *WORDS AWAY* {Like the Preterists and the RC church} from this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the Tree of Life and in the Holy City {The **NEW JERUSALEM**}, which are described in this Book.!!"



Revelation 22 :1-5: Then the angel showed me the river of the Water of Life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and the Lamb {Jesus} down the middle of the great street of the City. On each side of the river stood the Tree of Life, bearing 12 crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month... The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the City, and his servants will serve Him. They will see His face and His name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night!! They will not need the light of the lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. The angel said to me, �These words are TRUSTWORTHY and TRUE!!�



JESUS WILL WRITE ON US THE NAME OF THE CITY OF GOD THE *NEW JERUSALEM*!!



Revelation 2:18; 3:12,21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it...And I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of the City of My God, the NEW JERUSALEM, which is coming down out of heaven from My God....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."



According to Revelation 22:3 the only 2 thrones in the New Jerusalem will be the thrones of the Father and of the Lamb Jesus Christ.



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After these things I looked, and behold, a door standing open in heaven
Posted : 28 Dec, 2013 07:03 PM

@prophetic774



A spirit and soul is what makes up the real person, and is what lives within a physical body of flesh and blood providing it with both life and it's "persona," while the person is alive on earth. However they are not "flesh and blood"............ do you understand this ?



As Jesus said the kingdom is within us, and this kingdom consists of the celestial bodies that live within our terrestrial body that came from the dust, and when the time of our death comes comes will return to the dust.



Please study in detail 1Cor.15



Meanwhile the corruptible soul of man must put on what is incorruptible......... only the soul aka mind of Jesus Christ is incorruptiable, and it will only appear upon and within those whom God approves of . On the other hand it will never be apprehended by anyone else "outside of the throne room" such as those Christians who are worshipping in heaven as the 10,000 X 10,000



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