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Elijah The Prophet
Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 03:28 PM

Will Elijah the Prophet make a "third" return just before Jesus' "2nd" return? Most Pastors will say John the Baptist was the only biblically confirmed return of Elijah. Are they correct? Should you be listening for the voice of Elijah in these days?

If you think no, see the following verses and answer the question below, and see if the results change your mind.

Mat 17:11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. (note future tense), Malachi 3:1 (see the Hebrew for Lord) and Malachi 4:5 (again, see the Hebrew for Lord).

When did John the Baptist die?

If after reading the above verses and then answering the question, you still believe Elijah does not return, then let's talk about it. :)

Listen for Elijah's voice because it is once again preparing the way for the "Lord". This time the Lion NOT the Lamb..."

Did you know that God thinks it is so important that children and their dads have a relationship of love that if they do not, it is curse worthy?

Note: the verse below also has a higher spiritual and corporate meaning in terms of fathers and sons, but don't believe that it is also not individual.

Malachi 4:4-6 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 03:33 PM

You are twisting the passage, brother!



Matt 17:12

But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.



They did not realize that Elias had come already. John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah - as a prophet.

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 03:51 PM

No. It is a misconception that Jesus was only talking of John the Baptist in these passages.

Just as he had an Elijah Type before his first coming, he also has one for his second.

Malachi 3:1 is what the apostles were referencing, however, he answered for this passage AND Malachi 4:5.

The Hebrew corroborates the 2 differences of his comings in Malachi.

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 03:56 PM

Old Covenant vs New Covenant, my friend.



Hebrews 1: 1-2

GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 03:58 PM

What is your point? Are you saying that Prophecies from the old covenant are no longer going to happen? Because they have been superseded? What do you mean?

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 04:18 PM

I am going to keep it simple. My point is that you are speaking of an Old Covenant paradigm as though it will be in the future with no Biblical support.



One greater than Elijah has now come -- Jesus Christ. The law and the prophets were what testified of Christ - He has now come and fulfilled both the law and the prophets. We are living in a New Covenant (latter days) paradigm now. We are not waiting on Elijah or some future Elijah.

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 04:39 PM

If you are not expecting future prophets to be forerunners to the 2nd coming, you should ask God for Jesus' testimony to be revealed to you. The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of Prophecy (Rev. 19:10)



Malachi 4:5 talks of a time within the New Covenant period. Jesus has not returned in what can be deemed a great and dreadful day. This is a future event regarding his second coming. Revelation 11 also speaks of prophets that will also come in the latter day before Christ's return. Are you suggesting that they are not really prophets of God?

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 05:53 PM

Sorry, I reject the futurist hermeneutic. First century history (66ad-73ad), including the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple of Jerusalem in 70ad were the "great tribulation". This officially ended the old earth order. (the former days) and ushered in the New Covenant.

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Posted : 18 Dec, 2013 06:45 PM

No. Revelation is dated after 70AD. Are you saying that the great and dreadful day already happened or are you saying it is no longer going to happen?





Mal 4:1 For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.

Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

Mal 4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

Mal 4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

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Posted : 19 Dec, 2013 12:15 AM

It should be Elijah talk to people in last day but they dont hear before second coming of jesus so they will kill him display for 3 days and half before second coming of christ



Revelation 11:3-13

And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.� 4 They are �the two olive trees� and the two lampstands, and �they stand before the Lord of the earth.�[a] 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.



7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city�which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt�where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.



11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, �Come up here.� And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.



13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

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Posted : 19 Dec, 2013 06:40 AM

Are you saying 1 of the 2 prophets in Rev. 11 is the Elijah of Malachi? Who is the other prophet?



These are the 2 olive trees...

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