Thread: There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
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There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
Posted : 1 Oct, 2013 12:49 PM
Here is another FALSE claim coming straight from the mouth of an UNBELIEVER HERE: "There is no biblical support to your Calvinist doctrine, man before the new birth can not respond to the word of God.... bla bla bla... yada... yada....yada"
John 3: 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he CANNOT see the kingdom of God. - CANNOT not will not. He CANNOT even see the Kingdom of God, let alone respond to it.
STATE IN WHICH THE NATURAL MAN IS BORN:
Psalm 51:5 --- in iniquity - in sin
Psalm 58:3 --- estranged from birth
SPIRITUAL STATE OF UNREGENERATE MAN:
Genesis 2:16-17 --- DEAD
Romans 5:12 ------- DEAD
Ephesians 2:1-3 ----DEAD "nekros� = corpse, dead, not just sick
Colossians 2:13 ---- DEAD
STATE OF NATURAL MAN�S HEART:
Genesis 8:21 ---- Evil - the intent of man�s heart is evil
Ecclesiastes 9:3--- Insane & Evil
Jeremiah 17:9 --- Deceitful & sick
Mark 7:21 --- Evil thoughts, prideful, foolish, adulterous, etc.
John 3:19 --- Evil deeds
Romans 8:7-8 ---Mind set on flesh is hostile to God-NOT EVEN ABLE to come to Christ; able=dynamai= power whether by virtue of one's own ability & resources
1 Corinth 2:14 --- CANNOT accept understand things of God
Ephesians 4:17-19 --- Understanding is darkened/away from life of God, hard heart
Ephesians 5:8 --- Darkened, ignorant, callous, hardness of heart
Titus 1:15 --- DEFILED IN DARKNESS
CONTROL OF SIN OVER THE NATURAL MAN:
John 8:34, 44 ---Slave to sin, wanting to do desire of their father the devil
Romans 6:20 --- Free (far away) from Righteousness
Ephesians 2:1,2 --- DEAD (nekros=corpse) in sin, walking in accord with devils desire
2 Timothy 2:25-26 --- Snared by devil, slave to devil�s will
Titus 3:3 --- Enslaved, deceived, disobedient
1 John 3:10 --- One NOT practicing Righteousness is NOT of God but child of the devil
1 John 3:18 --- Practicing sin (children of the devil)
1 John 5:19 --- whole world lies in power of evil one
INHERENT ABILITY OF NATURAL MAN TO REPENT & BELIEVE:
Job 14:4 --- Who can make clean out of the unclean? In our sin nature we cannot change it
Jeremiah 13:23 ---an Ethiopian man cannot chg his color; a leopard cannot chg his spots, we are born in sin, cannot change our sinful nature
Matthew 7:16-18 ---grapes aren�t gathered from thorn bushes; a good tree cannot produce bad fruit; A bad tree cannot produce good fruit
Matthew 12:33 --- A good tree is made to produce good fruit; a bad tree is made to produce bad fruit - Tree is known by its fruit
John 6:44, 65 ---NO ONE CAN COME to Christ unless The Father draws (helko=drags) him
1 Corinth 2:14 ---Natural man CANNOT understand spiritual things; things of God
1 Corinth 4:7 --- Whatever we have, new nature, new heart, we received it from God; new birth was GIVEN to us - NOT something we do
2 Corinth 3:5 --- Our adequacy, ability, is from God; we in our sinful nature don�t have the ability adequacy= hikanotēs = ability or competency to do a thing
Ephesians 2:8 ---We are saved by Grace through faith NOT of ourselves. Through Grace comes a gift from God; not of our will to be saved (Rom 3 & Rom 9); He gives us our gift of faith to salvation, He is the Author of our faith
Genesis 6:5 --- Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Job 25:4-6 --- How then can a man be just with God? Or how can he be clean who is born of woman? If even the moon has no brightness and the stars are not pure in His sight, How much less man, that maggot, and the son of man that worm!
Isaiah 64:6 ---For all have become like one who is unclean and ALL our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; all of us wither like a leaf and our iniquities like the wind take us away
Psalm 14:3 They have all turned aside together they have become corrupt There is no one who does good, not even one.
Mark 2:24 ---But Jesus, on His part, was not entrusting Himself to them for He knew all men;
Romans 7:18 --- I know that there is nothing good dwells in me, in my flesh
Romans 3:10 --- There is none righteous, not even one. There is no one who understands. There is none that seeks for God. ALL have turned aside; together they have become USELESS. There is none does good; there is not even one.
There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
Posted : 1 Oct, 2013 02:48 PM
2 Peter 1:5-11: Make every effort to add to you faith {A FREE GIFT} goodness, knowledge, self-control, perseverance, godliness, brotherly kindness and **LOVE**. For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective...and will make your calling and election sure...and you will receive a *RICH WELCOME* into our Eternal Kingdom of Jesus Christ!
By saying REWARDS are not *EARNED* by the saints contradicts over 50 passages from the inspired Words of God and removes one of the most important incentives for obeying all of the NT commands with love with the hope countless eternal *REWARDS* for faithful and loving service!! There are many Satanic Calvinists who teach that born again saints do not have free will and that their good works are all predistined for the glory of God and therefore will not **EARN** heavenly **REWARDS**, However, what does God's infallible Words say about this ??
Daniel 12:3: Those who impart wisdom {NIV} will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness. like the stars for ever and ever!
Revelation 2:18; 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes I will give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it....And I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."
Jesus says, "At the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne...Everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or fields for My sake will receive 100 times as much !!" Matthew 19:28,29
SALVATION IS 100% FREE BUT HEAVENLY REWARDS ARE 100% EARNED:
Hebrews 11:1,6: Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see....And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to Him must believe that He exists and that He **REWARDS** those who earnestly seek Him!!
Ephesians 6:8: Serve wholeheartedly , as if you were serving the Lord, not men, because you know that the Lord will **REWARD** everyone for what ever good he does!.
Revelation 22:12 Jesus says, �Behold I am coming soon! My **REWARD** is with Me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done!�
Matthew 16:27: Jesus says, �The Son of Man is going to come in His Father's glory with His angels and THEN He will **REWARD** each person according to what he has done!�
2 Corinthians 5:9,10: We make it our goal to please Him... for we must all appear before the Judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15: His work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives , he will receive his **REWARD**. If it is burned up he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.
Colossians 3:23-25: Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, siince you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a **REWARD**. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for his wrong, and there is no favoritism.
How to Win Heavenly CROWNS:
I Corinthians 9:24-27: Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes in to strict training. They do it to get a **CROWN that will not last; but we do it to get a **CROWN THAT WILL LAST FOREVER! Therefore, I do not run like a man running aimlessly. I do not fight like a man beating the air. No, I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize!
2 John 1:8: Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be **REWARDED** fully!. Revelation 3:11: Jesus says, �I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your **CROWN!�
2 Timothy 4:7,8: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Now there is in store for me the **CROWN of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge,will award to me on that day�and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for His appearing!
The **CROWN of Life for those who persevere under trials and persecution:
James 1:12: Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the **CROWN OF LIFE that God has promised to those who **LOVE** Him!
Revelation 2:10 Jesus says, �Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer... Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the **CROWN OF LIFE!�
Matthew 5:11,12: Jesus says, �Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, beacuase great is your **REWARD** in heaven!�
Hebrews 10:32-36: Remember those earlier days after you had received the Light, when you stood your ground in a great contest in the face of sufferin. Sometimes you were publicaly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly **REWARDED**. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you receive what He has promised!
There is NO Biblical Support to the Calvinist Doctrine.... yada...yada...yada.!
Posted : 1 Oct, 2013 06:22 PM
Faith is a gift from G-d, and with that faith we can say yes to G-d or no to G-d. the entire Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, makes clear that if we have choices to make and that G-d does not predetermine our responses. Some of our choices grieve Him and others please Him, and He will respond to us accordingly. And Paul states plainly in Romans 4:16 that if salvation is by faith, it is not by works. So, G-d alone gets the glory as Savior, we could never save ourselves, but it is those who receive His grace that will be saved. As a result, on that day (and in every day up to that point as believers), we will glory in the Lord alone.
� It is absolutely clear from the Word that there are many things that people do that grieve G-d and are contrary to His will. He certainly did not ordain them! Throughout the Word, He distances Himself from human sin and evil and makes clear that this was not what He intended for His creation (supported by Gen 6:5-6; Jer 7:31).
� Throughout the Word, He calls us to make choices, commending those who trust and obey Him (like Abraham, whom He calls his friend in Isa 41:8, among many others) and condemning those who refuse His grace (supported by Deut 30:19; Luke 13:24; Rom 2:6-11). It is clear from the language of Scripture that G-d did not predetermine the response� (Jer 36:2-3; Ezek 22:30-31; along with Jer 18:1-12, with reference to G-d as the Potter).
� Throughout the Word, He makes clear that He takes no delight in the death of the wicked but desires rather that they would repent and live (supported by Ezek 18:23, 30-32; 33:11; Mic 7:18; Jer 31:20).
� This is further confirmed throughout the Word as G-d expresses His ardent desire for His creation to know Him, with Israel often as the focus of His love (supported by Jer 3:19-20; Luke 13:34; Isa 48:17-19; Deut 5:29). This is the summary of the biblical message: �I will was willing, you were not!� (Cited here were Isa 65:1-3; Luke 7:30.)
� Y-shua then comes into the world as the full expression of the Father and sheds His blood for the entire world, meaning, He shed His blood to pay for the sins of every human being and secured the salvation of those who put their trust in Him (supported by John 3:16; 1 John 2:1-2; 1 Tim 2:3-6; 1 Tim 4:10; Titus 2:11; Heb 2:9; 2 Pet 2:1; Acts 26:28-29).
� And this is what our amazing, sovereign G-d does: Before the foundation of the world, He determines that He will get a people for Himself who will love and serve Him and be with Him forever, chosen and elect in His Son, trophies of His grace � and He carries this out in the midst of a sinning, rebelling world. What an incredible G-d He is! (Eph 1:3-6; 1 Pet 1:1-2.) In keeping with this, He confirms unbelievers in their unbelief and shows Himself to be just in judging them, but He gives grace to the humble who put their trust in Him. And there is no room for boasting, since it is all of grace by faith, and faith is not a work, and we glory in the Lord alone. And I urge everyone to remember Deut 29:29, namely, that the secret things belonged to the Lord � in other words let G-d be G-d! � whereas He requires us to be obedient to what is open and revealed.
