Thread: The Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8, Rejection of Knowledge and the Dialectic Mind of 2013
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The Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8, Rejection of Knowledge and the Dialectic Mind of 2013
Posted : 24 Sep, 2013 05:54 AM
The Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8, Rejection of Knowledge and the Dialectic Mind of 2013
The Little Horn comes up among the four kingdoms in Daniel 7. It is the same kingdom or nation as the head of the beast whose deadly wound was healed. It plucks up three nations. To figure out who these three nations might be, the scenarios of the conflict between the king of the north and the king of the south need to be understood. Also, the second beast of Revelation 13 causes people to worship the beast whose deadly wound was healed. Although this is metaphor, you have to take into consideration what scripture says and not just interpret a metaphor according to your opinion.
The plucking up of three nations could very well be fulfilled soon. But getting Bible prophecy wrong by use of man made theologies and opinions makes it impossible to see how the prophecy can be fulfilled in the present time.
"And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
4. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
5. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
6. After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
7. After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things." Daniel 7: 3-8
Remember that in Daniel 2: 32-35 four pre-Cross kingdoms of empires are shown, the Babylonian, Persian, Greek and Romans empires.
Then Revelation 13: 2 says "And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."
Revelation 13: 3: "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." One of the heads of the first beast, which was wounded to death but its deadly wound was healed, is the same nation as the Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8.
How do we know this? By Daniel 7: 3-8, interpreted to be four post-Cross kingdoms or empires, and by Revelation 13: 3, which indicates that the first beast of Revelation 13 is a composite of or has the traits of the three earlier empires. In Daniel 7: 8 the Little Horn, comes up among the four empires or kingdoms, which are post-Cross empires. The Little Horn is associated with the four post-Cross empires. And since the first beast of Revelation 13: 1-10 has the traits of the first three empires of Daniel 7, the implication is that one head of that beast, the beast whose deadly wound was healed, is allied with the fourth kingdom of Daniel 7, dreadful, terrible and strong exceedingly.
Daniel 11 provided additional knowledge which helps to identity which three nations the Littler Horn nation plucks up, and, as shown above the Little Horn is allied with the fourth post-Cross world empire in Daniel 7: 7. The Little Horn in Daniel 7: 8 is a very small nation, but is said to have a mouth speaking great things. In Daniel 7: 19-20 it says "Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows." Revelation 13: 3 shows that the head of the first beast whose deadly wound was healed is a part of or allied with the first beast of Revelation 13, that beast which has the traits of the lion, bear and leopard empires.
The Little Horn nation in Daniel 7: 20 has a look which is more stout than his fellows. Are his fellows the industrial nations of the north, or are his fellows the nations surounding the Little Horn nation?
A look at the scenarios running in Daniel 11 about the conflict between the king of the north and the king of the south might suggest the Little Horn is a very small nation but somehow is more stout, or powerful, than its neighbors. And the Little Horn is allied with that very powerful, or fourth empire of Daniel 7, which is not the Roman empire, which began long before the time of the Cross, but a post-Cross empire that has the traits of the lion, bear and leopard empires that come before it in time. In a sense, then it is that fourth beast said to be strong exceedingly which provides the strength to help the Little Horn pluck up three of its neighbors.
For example, Daniel 11: 25-27 says "And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed." "He" in Daniel 11: 25 is the king of the north." Note that the king of the north and the king of the south shall speak lies at one table, meaning they have meetings of some kind, supposedly to resolve their differences, but each side tells lies.
The scenarios of Daniel 11, given to Daniel by the angel of Daniel 10: 5-21, can be interpreted to run more than once and run in our time period. We can see that the conflict now between the king of the north and the king of the south, who are literal political leaders, and also they stand for the two alliances of nations, is between a northern alliance of nations and a southern alliance of countries mostly Islamic and mostly non-industrial
Bible prophecy is not in the Bible just to predict events, and it almost never predicts exact dates for events to occur. It is to provide knowledge, spiritual knowledge. But this does not mean that the Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8 is not meant to be identified. The problem is found in Hosea 4: 6. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."
If Daniel 7 is considered to have been exhausted at the end of the Seleucid and Ptolemaic dynasties as a prophecy given in scenarios about the conflict between the king of the north and the king of the south, and Daniel 7 is interpreted to be the same four pre-Cross kingdoms of Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome, then the knowledge that is needed to identify which nation the Little Horn is and which nation it is allied with is lost because that knowledge has been rejected.
If the small nation which is the Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8 is revealed here, than in the context of the rejection of knowledge above, and the whole dialectic mindset of most Christians of today, it would be seen as just another opinion. The dialectic mind argues against the truth of scripture and wants to compromise it. And the dialectic mind functions in a world of opinion, feelings, and relationships, rather than in a world of facts, absolute truth and absolute morality. So, the Little Horn prophecy, for those with the dialectic mind, or mind set, is just a topic for quarreling over a whole lot of different opinions on who or what the Little Horn is.
The four post-Cross kingdoms of Daniel 7 have to be identified, and once the last kingdom, the fourth one in Daniel 7, as a composite of the three coming before it (Revelation 13: 2), is identified, then it is easier to see which small nation the Little Horn is. In addition, if the scenarios about the conflict between the king of the north and of king of the south in Daniel 11 are seen to repeat and apply to the present time period, it can be seen that this conflict is now between the northern industrial nations under a military alliance, NATO, for example, and under usury banking and the mostly non-industial and mostly Islamic nations of the south, this helps to identify which nations the Little Horn is to pluck up. But since all this knowledge has been rejected in man made theology, the Little Horn prophecy has little knowledge to offer and no predictive function.
The Little Horn of Daniel 7: 8, Rejection of Knowledge and the Dialectic Mind of 2013
Posted : 25 Sep, 2013 04:22 AM
Isaiah 28:13: "But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken."
Isaiah 28: 13 is not easy to understand. But it says "line upon line, here a little, and there a little." This means that doctrine is often scattered over several books of the Bible, and we have to put it all together. But then it suddenly says "that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken." Because "they" cannot put together the pieces of a doctrine from several places in scripture and do not understand the overall meanings, they are snared, broken and fall backward, meaning they fail to come to the knowledge of the truth.
So what Isaiah 28: 13 is saying is that for a doctrine like the identity and activities of the small but stout nation called the Little Horn, information on it has to be gathered and put together accurately from several different scriptures.
And - the identity of the Little Horn is right before the eyes of those who are snared, broken and fall backward, but they do not have eyes to see it. The activities of the Little Horn and its powerful ally were in the news just recently.
In addition, much of scripture is written in such a way that only those with eyes to see and ears to hear figure out its meanings. The rest use their knowledge of church traditions, "denominational distinctives," "hermeneutics‎," knowledge of Hebrew and Greek, seminary/bible college training, and systematic man made theologies and are duped by the very scriptures they study so hard. This is evident especially now on Christian forums.
"For as a snare shall it come on all of them that dwell on the face of the whole earth." Luke 21: 35
In other words, as Isaiah 28: 13 hints at scripture does not spoon feed. It is not written like a grammar school or high school level text that explains things in detail with a lot of repetition.
