Thread: Exposing the False teachings of the Pre-Trib Rapture
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Exposing the False teachings of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Posted : 29 Mar, 2009 10:55 PM
Hi Everyone,
Here is one of the studies I did concerning the False Teachings of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture theory. What I am presenting is the oldest and majority view in Church history.
1 Corinthians 15: 50-54
Below is one of the key main Resurrection and Rapture passages. Notice the context in verse 50. The Kingdom of God. Now the Kingdom we all know is not physically established on Earth until Christ returns AFTER the Great Tribulation. This is where He sets up His Kingdom on Earth, forever. This is part of the context. Any CAPS are for emphasis only since we do not have the luxury of fonts and colors. :)
1Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
Why are we going to be changed?
Because "flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God".
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The phrase: The dead shall be raised incorruptible refers to the Resurrection of the bodies of the dead believers in Christ.
The phrase: "and we shall be changed, refers to the Rapture", which immediately follows the Resurrection.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54) SO.... WHEN... this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, THEN SHALL BE BROUGHT TO PASS THE SAYING THAT IS WRITTEN.... Death is swallowed up in victory.
The phrase: Death is swallowed up in victory, is an Old Testament prophesy found in Isaiah 25:8
Notice that Paul tells us WHEN the resurrection and Rapture will occur. When an Old Testament passage comes to past. This is where we must look to Isaiah 25:8. But before you do, it would be good to read all of chapter 24 and then 25 to get the context.
In summary, chapter 24 ends with a great earthquake and the "Sun and Moon" signs occurring and then the entire context of Isaiah 25 is the beginning of the establishment of the Kingdom of Christ here on Earth, which we know occurs AFTER the Great Tribulation.
Also notice that God will wipe away all tears from off ALL faces.
Are there tears during the Tribulation? You betcha. So this is after it.
There is no question as to the timing of the Rapture here. It is clearly Post-Tribulational.
Isaiah 25:8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.
When does God wipe away ALL tears from off ALL faces?
After Christ returns which is after the Great Tribulation where He sets up His Kingdom here on Earth. Paul has clearly told us that the future Resurrection AND Rapture occurs AFTER the Tribulation.
One more important point I will add to this is concerning Isaiah 24. Isaiah 25 follows 24 in proper sequence.
Isaiah 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
This is an interesting passage in not only that it talks about the Lord reigning but also the Sun and Moon signs.
Why is this significant? ......Because the sun and moon signs are the signs that occur AFTER the Tribulation ends and just prior to the 2nd Coming of Christ our Lord. This is also known as "The Day of the Lord".
Acts 2: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
How do we know this is AFTER the great Tribulation?
Let's see when Jesus places this event.
Mat 24:29 Immediately... AFTER the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
So as we can see, all the passages above speak very clearly as the Resurrection AND the Rapture occurring AFTER the Great Tribulation, proving once again that the Pre-Tribulation Rapture is a seriously False Doctrine / Teaching and that the Post-Tribulation/Pre-Millennial Rapture is the only correct Biblical position.
Exposing the False teachings of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Posted : 11 Apr, 2009 12:47 PM
Walter, do you like pizza? I'm just curious - there has to be something we can agree on. Lol
I believe the rapture happens before the tribulation. I have no idea how old this belief is or how popular, and frankly it doesn't matter. Look at how many "Christians" support abortion. Although something may be popular and may be a long held belief does not make it correct.
First of all, the wrath:
Luke 21:23 Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people
Revelation 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Revelation 11:18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
Rev.14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb
Rev 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God
Rev 15:7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever
Rev 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth
Scripture says the church does not endure this:
I Thess 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come
I Thess 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him
Now we look at Thessalonians:
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming
There will be "many antichrists," but THE antichrist won't be revealed until "he be taken out of the way." Who is "he?" The church. The church that is filled with the power of the Holy Spirit is what is keeping THE antichrist away right now. It must be taken out before he is revealed. Notice the following verses:
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it
Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you
I John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world
Also, from the history of the Bible, we can see that God has taken his children out of harms way before his wrath is poured out:
II Peter 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 2:7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished
And when Jesus spoke about the last days, he mentioned these people:
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed
And look at these two verses:
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
Exposing the False teachings of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Posted : 2 Jun, 2009 03:44 PM
These verses doesn't mention about a rapture.
If you see 2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
great noise. when a thief comes to your home to rob you, he comes unannounced but he breaks the window which causes noise, the alarm goes off, and etc. that's noise right there.
Exposing the False teachings of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Posted : 30 Jun, 2009 02:25 PM
Most churches teach we will be rapture before the tribulation. I grew up with that belief also. I have read it over and over hundreds of times. But last year I was talking to my daughter about the end times. I was reading out loud to her. And my mouth almost had to be picked off on the floor.
I was reading Matthew 24 and when I reading verse 26-31
Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, [he is] in the secret chambers; believe [it] not.
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
Mat 24:29 � Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
This was so different than anything I was being told. I was devastated that meant we would be going through the tribulation. This was the big deception and I knew most Christians believed we wouldn't suffer through this. I could see where the great falling away would happen.
We have the prosperity gospels being preached and told we would be rapture. No suffering just blessings and then rapture. That sounded so much better. It was as though the floor drop out from underneath me. But that was man's gospel, not the word of GOD.
I realize most Churches are teaching this false gospel. And we really need to be grounded in the word. We are the last generation in which the bible speaks of. We will be tortured and persecuted for our faith. We will be fleeing. What is happening in America is just the tip of the iceberg. We need to be prayed up and continuing in our words. Not the water down versions of the bible but the King James Bible.
We are going to see a great change, and not the one most people are expecting. The NWO is here and soon we will need to choose.Do you Serve the KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, are taking the devils mark. The money system is going to fail, it was planned that way. Open your eyes Saints! The party is just getting started.
Exposing the False teachings of the Pre-Trib Rapture
Posted : 8 Jul, 2009 07:27 PM
The Bible is very self-explanatory when it comes to this topic. The Book of Revelation talks about the coming of Christ through the clouds and taking the saints to heaven. It's very easy to comprehend.
