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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 13 Sep, 2012 11:34 PM

Often times I see the argument that Unconditional Election makes God a respecter of persons. That is false and can easily be shown to be so. While reading up on the topic I came upon this article by John Hendryx, where he shows the weaknesses in that argument. However he takes it a step further and makes a strong case that those who hold to a conditional election are actually the ones who make God into a respecter of persons. I really enjoyed this one.



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The charge we often hear from those who reject God's unconditional election is that it makes God a respecter of persons. As is the case with most protests against unconditional election it is important to point out that this is a moral rather than exegetical argument. And if this is the basis for their rejecting the doctrine of salvation by grace ALONE, rather than appealing directly to the Scriptures which repeatedly declare unconditional election (Eph 1:3,4; Rom 9), then one is basing their theological future on shaky ground...

Nonetheless I still think it is important to face up to this charge to see if it has any validity. To do this we need to understand how the Bible uses the concept of "respecter of persons" and then let it interpret itself as to what it actually means, and then determine whether or not God would be guilty of it if unconditional election were true. Below is a wide sampling of its occurrence in the Scripture:

"Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honor the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour." (Leviticus 19: 15 KJV)

"Thou shalt not wrest judgment; thou shalt not respect persons, neither take a gift: for a gift doth blind the eyes of the wise, and pervert the words of the righteous." (Deuteronomy 16: 19 KJV)

"For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person: yet doth he devise means,

that his banished be not expelled from him." (II Samuel 14: 14 KJV)

"Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts." (II Chronicles 19: 7 KJV)

"These things also belong to the wise. It is not good to have respect of persons in judgment." (Proverbs 24: 23 KJV)

"To have respect of persons is not good: for for a piece of bread that man will transgress." (Proverbs 28: 21 KJV)

"And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear." (I Peter 1: 17 KJV)

"God is no respecter of persons." (Acts 10: 34)

"For there is no respect of persons with God." (Romans 2: 11)

"My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors." (James 2: 1-9 KJV)

Here we have multiple instances of this phrase in both the Old and New Testament. So what are these passages talking about? They are clearly warning the believer against showing favoritism or partiality, because they declare that God Himself does not show partiality or favoritism. And. most importantly, in each of these instances it means neither we nor God give special treatment to a person because of his position, merit, wealth, influence, social standing, authority or popularity. Thus 'respecter of persons' means we are not to favor one person over the other because of ANY superior personal trait in the one favored, and likewise we are not to show prejudice toward those who lack these characteristics.

So when God unconditionally elects a person in Christ does he first determine who He will choose based on their position, wealth, good looks, influence etc? No. By definition unconditional election means unconditional. It is not conditioned on ANYTHING in us or potentially in us. God does not stand to gain from currying anyone's favor ... even those who are in high positions ... because God gave them that position, wealth, authority or social standing to begin with. The Bible unambiguously teaches, therefore, that God is no respecter of persons in election. Those who are chosen are chosen "in Christ" not because God is thinking about what he has to gain by helping them over others.. God has no need for such things, so, by definition, his choosing us cannot be tainted with such a motive.

I want you to notice, however, the last quote from the apostle James that I offered above. In the midst of his commands to be a respecter of persons it asks: "...Hath not God chosen the poor of this world?" James question is rhetorical, of course. Because yes indeed God HAS chosen the poor of the world ... i.e. those who are spiritually bankrupt who have lost all hope in themselves... S0 God is not looking to benefit from those who are already full, but shows special care those who are empty or impoverished. It is therefore not something God is looking for in people but a lack of something. So according to the Bible, showing special favor to the poor is the very antithesis of what it means to show favoritism or respect of persons. God is showing mercy to him who does not deserve mercy and the poor recognizes this fact. The Apostle Paul also says the same thing: "But God chose what is foolish in the world to shame the wise; God chose what is weak in the world to shame the strong; God chose what is low and despised in the world, even things that are not, to bring to nothing things that are, so that no human being might boast in the presence of God." And then in the next line, Paul emphasizes God unconditional grace: "And because of him you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, righteousness and sanctification and redemption, so that, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord." Notice Paul here even makes this a matter of boasting whether one acknowledges that salvation is of Christ alone.

Let's take this a step further: we can easily demonstrate that it is actually those who defend CONDITIONAL election who make God a respecter of persons. This is because, if it were true that meeting some condition prompted God's decision to elect his people then His choice of them would be based on their wisdom, prudence, sound judgment, or good sense to believe. He would therefore be looking at the character or merit of that person and choosing them because of it. The Bible, on the contrary, declares that we are all ill-deserving and, as such, God reserves the right to have mercy on whom he will, which is not based in any way on the will of the flesh (John 1:13; Rom 9:15, 16). If God is basing his election on who will have faith then this would, in fact, make God a respecter of persons because these persons are meeting God's criteria in order to be chosen.

It is most ironic that those bringing this charge are the very ones who make God a respecter of persons by making God's love and election "conditional". It is the synergist who believes God shows favoritism or partiality because it is based on whether or not that person meritoriously meets the condition God gives him. In synergism God's love for his people is not unconditional but is given only when someone meets the right condition... i.e. whether someone has faith or not. He chooses them only if they believe in him. Isn't that favoritism? This conditional love is quite different than the love we expect from parents in everyday life. Consider, do you love your children because they do something for you? No, of course not. Don't you still love them even when they do something wrong? Of course. As an example, if your child rebelled against you and made you angry then soon after ran out into oncoming traffic would you run out to save him? or would you wait until he used his own will to prove his love to you first? No as a parent who loved their child you would run out to MAKE CERTAIN your child was not hit by a car regardless of the ebbs and flows of your relationship with him. Your love for him and your choice to save him are based on unconditional love. In fact we would consider the parent who first determined the love of their child as a condition to save them most unloving and cursed.

It is important that we further draw out these every day analogies to show how unreasonable this charge against unconditional election is. Consider the very world we live in. In God's perfect wisdom and because of the fall, for His own sovereign good purposes, some people are born into better families, richer countries, healthier bodies, better times, better conditions, more intelligence, etc. Others are born into AIDS, starvation and poverty. We see these "unfair" situations all around us. Does God have nothing to do with where people are born? Did people born into starvation have any say in the matter? Frankly I do not see the Arminian shaking his fist at God for being unfair here. Yet these conditions we see in the world are there because it is part of God's judgement due to the fall. Further, everyone is born equally guilty in Adam and so it is perfectly just that not all get the same benefits in this life when they are born. If this is true of everyday life why is it such a stretch to carry the same idea into eternity? It is hypocrisy not to recognize this inconsistency.

Next, let us consider the example of Jesus himself in Scripture. Jesus chose a specific time and place to come to earth and reveal himself and not other times. He healed some and not others. He raised Lazarus, his friend, but not everyone. There were other families in the world that were just as sad as Lazarus' family...many of them just faithful, just as godly. According to human unaided reason, Jesus singling Lazarus out for resurrection might appear to show partiality or favoritism. Jesus actually had to power to raise people from the dead and you would think that if this was the case he would help EVERY family which experienced the death of a loved on. This would not be too hard for him. But Jesus did not do so.

By defining favoritism the way Arminians do you would think that Jesus would go around healing everyone, raising everyone, and making no distinctions and divisions whatsoever. Or, you would think he would at least give everyone the choice to have their loved ones raised. But the Jesus presented in the Bible is obviously not the Jesus of Arminianism or Universalism. He's a Jesus who chooses to bring certain people to life and leave others in their own rebellion. Matt 11:27 says, "...no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."

Again Jesus himself plainly teaches that he makes distinctions in Matt 20:1-16 in the parable of Laborers in the Vineyard when He gives full wages to the laborers who worked an hour. He concludes, "Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?' So the last will be first, and the first last." Does this sound like the picture of God painted by Arminians?

In the end the Bible teaches that God chooses to have mercy on some ill-deserving people out of the entire mass of ill-deserving people. God is not obligated, in any sense, to save anyone because none are his children by nature, but by grace when He mercifully adopts them into his family. The others are rebelling against him and reject him, so he leaves them to their own desire. God is all wise and always conspires with his own wisdom in choosing to do what he does. By definition God's choices are always good, even if you cannot see it. If God doesn't satisfactorily explain to you the good reasons He has for what he does, do you thereby condemn Him for it? Well, most of us don't explain all the good reasons we have for what we do to our own child. Am I therefore immoral? There's several answers I could give that my child would not understand. On what basis do you think you could understand any God-justifying reason there is?

God loves his people because he loves them. Is there some better reason OUTSIDE or ABOVE God that should make him do so? The Arminian would have us think so. But to say so is to profoundly misapprehend the nature of who God is. We know God is always good, so if he wills something to be so, it is right irrespective of whether you understand.

Next, consider your own life and how you think you should treat others. Is it is okay to treat your children any differently than you neighbors or do you treat them exactly the same?

The question really is not whether God shows favorites but IN WHAT SENSE does God not show favorites because God chose Abraham out of all the people's of the earth, not because He saw something good in him, or because he earned God's favor, but because God chooses to. He saves the poor, the wretched and the sinners of the earth according to his sovereign good pleasure in Christ.

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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 14 Sep, 2012 04:32 AM

Excellent read, thank you fir sharing grace

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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 14 Sep, 2012 08:17 AM

Excellent comments!



Shalom!

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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 14 Sep, 2012 09:19 AM

One more thought.



"The charge we often hear from those who reject God's unconditional election is that it makes God a respecter of persons."..?



Man cannot reject or accept UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION, it is UNCONDITIONAL!



Elohim does not care what man may think, only that His eternal will is being accomplished, and that His seed come to respect Him by virtue of the Excellencies of His Being!



The term "respecter of persons" is not comprehended properly.



Your name, for example, is a fictional term. To you "TOMMY" is an endonym that your family gave you when you were born. To someone from another country, they may hear your name differently and call you by a slightly different sounding name, which is called "an exonym".



All true believers, are offended at being referred to by the exonym, "Christianos", "Christian" or "Christians", which are fictional terms.



These terms are an insult to the Ancient of Days and His seed, for this is not a name which He used, nor is "Jew", "Judaism" or "Christianity", "Islam", and so on.



There are only TWO SEEDS in the World, and this is truth, THE SEED FROM THE TREE OF LIFE, AND THAT FROM THE TREE OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL.



The Seed of Elohim, in their writings, were "BACHIYR" and "EKLEKTOS".



This is why it states, "AT ANTIOCH THE DISCIPLES WERE FIRST CALLED CHRISTIANS" [Ma'asey/Acts 11:26], and "THOU ALMOST PERSUADEST ME TO BE A CHRISTIAN" [Ma'asey/Acts 26:28], exonyms.



The "anointed ones", known to each other by the endonyms given by the Holy Spirit, went to Peter, to ask how they were to deal with this issue of being taken out of their name ~ EKLEKTOS / BACHIYR..



Peter addresses this, and tells them that "IF A MAN SUFFERS AS A CHRISTIAN, LET HIM NOT BE ASHAMED, BUT GLORIFY ELOHIM IN THIS BEHALF":



"Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf." [I Petros/Peter 4:16]



Peter is telling the true believers, that the men who are not of the bachiyr/eklektos are not knowledgeable of our faith, for they are not "chosen", and do not comprehend because they are natural men, and natural man cannot comprehend that which is spiritual [I Qorinti'im/Corinthians 2:14-16]





The ones that are lost, do not comprehend, the purpose of the Word of Elohim, for they cannot even hear it, which is referred to as "His Voice".



If you are calling yourself a Christian, then you are not obeying the Word, and if you are calling yourself a "Calvinist", then you are not obeying the Word.



To obey is to be separated, for no one by the bachiyr and eklektos believe.



It is amazing to me, that so many men do not comprehend this system of fictional terms, and how it is to contrast the terms placed upon the people of Elohim such as "Y'isra'el" "Bachiyr" and "Eklektos".



A person is a fictional term or it may be a title.



Elohim is stated as not being a "respecter of persons", because of the fictional titles of man contrived by man, and applied by man.



"Police Officer", "Judge", "Governors", and corporate titles such as "manager", "minister", "plumber", "painters", "carpenters", "electricians", "Greek" and "Gentile" are all fictions, made up by men, to apply to men, but the Words of Elohim THEY ARE DIFFERENT, for they mean something!



They are truth!



Elohim is not a respecter of fictions, of fictional titles, but of the names he assigned, such as His One, "YHWH".



Notice how the Tetragrammaton has what is known as a "W" in it. That means UU, or a double UU.



This is why the Word of Elohim is so important.



"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." [Galatea/Galatians 3:28]



These words above, are nothing, fictions, "personifications".



You are looking at the physical, but Elohim looks at the SPIRITUAL, and hence HE IS NO RESPECTER OF FICTIONAL REPRESENTATIONAL TITLES, no matter in what language they may be of.



Elohim's Speech, is ENDONYM, man's fictional system of "PERSONS" is EXONYM.



This is why it states, that He is no respecter of persons.



I am not a Christian, nor a Calvinist, nor a Catholic, nor a "husband", but only those endonyms used of Elohim, and by Elohim!



I am a MAN, which is the first translation of the Ibri word ISH. Woman was said of Elohim to be "isha".



Even the word "HEBREW" is not accurate. It is not "HEBREW", but "HA-IBRI", or "the" + "ibri", which meant "one from beyond".



All true believers are from beyond, as you are pointing out in this article on "election".



Abraham was first called "the" "ibri" in Genesis/Bereshit 14:13. His seed were the "bachiyr" in the TaNaKh and Torah, and the "eklektos" in the B'rit Hadasha or New Testament. When you combine the meanings of their endonyms, "anointed ones" and "called out ones", you get "anointed ones called out of that which is profane", Babylon:



"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her [Babylon], my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." [Hazon/Revelation 18:4-5]



I may be referred to by the Anglicized [made English] title of "eklektos", or "yachadim" or "Natzarim"..



All of these words I just used are to be found in the writing of the anointed ones, the "BACHIYR" and "EKLEKTOS"..



We live by the Word and not what men say [persons]



Shalom!

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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 14 Sep, 2012 09:49 AM

I believe Hendryx's intent was not that people can reject God's unconditional election, but that people reject the teaching of unconditional election.

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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 09:48 AM

Exactly Grace, I believe you are right and thanks for the read brother.

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Why Conditional Election Makes God A Respecter Of Persons
Posted : 15 Sep, 2012 10:32 AM

You're welcome brother. I was actually hoping to get a response from those who adhere to the conditional election belief.

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