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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 05:03 AM

Hey Jude;Love ya



1Pe 2:9 But you are "an elect race," "a royal priesthood," "a holy nation," "a people for possession," so that "you may openly speak of the virtues" of the One who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; LXX-Ex. 23:22; MT-Ex. 19:5, 6







If you were to be asking a person that calls themself a christian,this question.

'What exactly is the "Priesthood of ALL Believers',maybe 95-99% of the people would have no idea what you were talking about..



The same thing would probably go for Biblical Imputation.



IF the AMERICAN believers had been taught the Priesthood of believers,we might be seeing a different type of America.

We would also be seeing a different type of Believer today,then what is seen.





IF,the believers in America had been understanding their POSITION as Kings and Priests in Yeshua,

MAYBE the believers might not have been HOOD-WINKED by the charlitans,which have taken the believers and brought them back under bondage to rules and regulations of men,

Namely the LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD.



Example:

Joh 8:36 Therefore, if the Son sets you free, you are free indeed.

When people meet together,this freedom allows men and women to OPENLY worship Yeshua in spirit and in truth.

This freedom is found in 1st Corinthians chapters 11-14,where there is no mention of ANYONE other than Yeshua leading His people to Breka Bread in Remembrance of Himself.

And to be Worthshipping in spirit and in truth.



This worthship does not include an ORGANIZED BAND.

Nor is there any mention of a single man saying 'LET US WORSHIP'.

With a band present the 'LET US' Never has a chance,seeing that the meeting has been PREarranged so as to keep the people in the dark about the Preisthood of all believers.



Prayer is vitale as believers meet,yet once again for most believers one man says 'LET US PRAY'. And once again this same man prays for the people,as though he is the priest representing everyone before YHWH.

Can anyone say,Hey a modern Moses.



The Priesthood of believers is set before us as the means of avoiding going back under bondage to the Old Covenant Priesthood,from which Yeshua has brought His people out from being under..



Yet MOST people in America have NEVER heard of this extremely important issue.



The charlitans tickle the ears of the people with the ideas of becoming HeaLlthy,wealthy and wise,just by reciting a few words the charlitans tell them.



Also these mandates are placed upon others,which when the people cannot live up to these then the people are told that they are 'SINNERS' needing to repent,and be saved.

Do not drink alcoholic drinks.

No dancing

No drugs

No sex before marriage

Do not associate yourselves with such people.



You must live Holy

You must sanctify yourselves befor YHWH

You must be Perfect as YHWH is perfect

You must tithe

And these people just heap burden upon burden upon the people to keep them from the truth of who They are in Yeshua,namely Kings and Priests of the Most High GOD..



Yet Yeshua clearly says:



Mat 11:28 Come to Me, all those laboring and being burdened, and I will give you rest.

Mat 11:29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, because I am meek and lowly in heart, "and you will find rest to your souls." Jer. 6:16

Mat 11:30 For My yoke is easy, and My burden is light.



During the Old Covenent 10 men were necessary to have a synagouge,this is still practised by Hebrew men today.

Yet Yeshua changed this when He declared.

Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst.



The necessity of having 10 men is done away with.

With the priesthood of believers,only 2 people are necessary for the following,and guess what,one of these people does not have to be a senior pastor,pastor,elder or deacon,and no Worship Band is necessary.



Break bread

Worship Together

Fellowship Together

Pray Together

Study the Word together

Evangelising together

Everything the gathered assembly can do,these two people are able to do the same.



Does anyone see the necessity for this vitale Doctrine to being taught within the assembly of the believers in Yeshua.



Yet alas,most will continue believing that the way they are meeting is what is taught in the Word of YHWH..



Most will continue being in bondage to the dictates of men which continue tickling the ears of the masses.

By not teaching the Priesthood of ALL believers to the people,the charlitans continue to keep the masses in bondage to the teachings of men.



Had the people been taught who they are in Yeshua,as Kings and Priests,maybe these Charlitans would be run out of the Assemblies of the believers,

Maybe the men which should be elders,would then be teaching and instructing the believers unto the things of YHWH in Yeshua.



Maybe there would be Freedom amongst the Believers as intended by Yeshua.



Maybe the Love of many might increase,instead of decrease.



Maybe we might even see the return of the Holy Spirit manifesting His life to the believers...





I have said enough about this,as i have been involved with Believers in Philadelphia.PA;

Which had met together according to Biblical Principles.





I hope everyone has a Blessed and safe weekend



Shalom and Chesed

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 06:05 AM

Strife cause evry evil work.



A believer is to walk in love.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 07:30 AM

George, the priesthood of all believers is related to the vail being ripped and the ability to go boldly to the throan of grace as before that point people had to have a priest make the sacrifice for them, now we can ask forgivness without aproaching another man but repenting directly to the Lord in the name of Jesus,



I hope you are not influenceing young impresionable believers (not young age but young in the Lord) as you will steer many to believe they can still hold onto their sin! George I will say this again!!





SIN IS A BURDEN it is heavy and brings despair and sadness, depression, the easy yoke and light burden of the Lord is related to the absence of sin, if you live a life of hollieness you dont walk around with the burden of sin, the bible relates sin to bondage so how can you not se the relation!



I would like to ask you a question george, please define worship , physicaly what is worship?



you do not have to go to a church building to worship I worship him in my bedroom laying on the floor on my knees with my face on the ground while I pray and focus on him, but I sing too and sing to him, but there is nothing wrong with going to a service where there are like minded believers and also someone there to teach us, as the pastor has the time and resourses to dig deeper into the word and pass it on to us, now in the early church they did assemble they did have leaders!I just dont know what it is you are trying to make folks believe





But holding on to your sin cause Jesus died for it is dangerous ground!



WHAT Then shall we continus in sin that grace may abound God forbid how shall we continue to live any longer in that we are dead to (o boy I thik thats not exactly right but thats what it says anyway I dont have the time to look it up I have to go to work) romans 6:1 &2



what you say flies in the fave of that scripture and it is a slap in the face of Jesus as if he sufferd and died for sour sins to frre us from them and we insist on continuing in our sin then well somene who would do such a thing doesnt love him! if you love him you dont want to sin, thats a fact jack!

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 08:57 AM

The evidence of corrupted seed sown into the heart of man, bringing forth a corrupted harvest.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 09:13 AM

To elisha:



This is off the topic:



Where in the world are you getting your information about me.



I would implore you to stop jumping to conclusions about me,as your ASSUMING can get you and othres into situations you might regret....





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elisha

George, the priesthood of all believers is related to the vail being ripped and the ability to go boldly to the throan of grace as before that point people had to have a priest make the sacrifice for them, now we can ask forgivness without aproaching another man but repenting directly to the Lord in the name of Jesus,







I hope you are not influenceing young impresionable believers (not young age but young in the Lord) as you will steer many to believe they can still hold onto their sin! George I will say this again!!









elisha

SIN IS A BURDEN it is heavy and brings despair and sadness, depression, the easy yoke and light burden of the Lord is related to the absence of sin, if you live a life of hollieness you dont walk around with the burden of sin, the bible relates sin to bondage so how can you not se the relation!





Farmer

elisha i do not believe you are understanding what i have written here.



elisha

I would like to ask you a question george, please define worship , physicaly what is worship?



you do not have to go to a church building to worship I worship him in my bedroom laying on the floor on my knees with my face on the ground while I pray and focus on him, but I sing too and sing to him, but there is nothing wrong with going to a service where there are like minded believers and also someone there to teach us, as the pastor has the time and resourses to dig deeper into the word and pass it on to us, now in the early church they did assemble they did have leaders!I just dont know what it is you are trying to make folks believe





Farmer

Worthship not worship

Worthship is the value of Messiah to you.

Who is He,what is He like.

Is the Holy Spirit revealing Yeshua to a person through the Word of YHWH,Then is the Holy SPirit bringing experiences into the persons life to make His revealings of Yeshua real.



From the Word of YHWH,In the power of the Holy Spirit,how am i able to tell Yeshua what His life,death,burial and resurrection mean to me.





elisha

But holding on to your sin cause Jesus died for it is dangerous ground!



WHAT Then shall we continus in sin that grace may abound God forbid how shall we continue to live any longer in that we are dead to (o boy I thik thats not exactly right but thats what it says anyway I dont have the time to look it up I have to go to work) romans 6:1 &2



Farmer

Where are you getting your information from.

I believe you have been doing spiritual gymnastics,Jumping to conclusions without ANY evidence at all.



You need to show where i have stated what you are ACCUSING me of.



elisha

what you say flies in the fave of that scripture and it is a slap in the face of Jesus as if he sufferd and died for sour sins to frre us from them and we insist on continuing in our sin then well somene who would do such a thing doesnt love him! if you love him you dont want to sin, thats a fact jack!





Farmer

I shared with everyone here about the Scriptural position of the Priesthood of ALL Believers.

Most of the Americans have never heard of this Biblical doctrine.

Nor have most Americans ever experienced The Priesthood of ALL Believers.



Since this Biblical doctrine is very necessary for the believers to be knowing who Yeshau is,and to be knowing who each and every believer is in Yeshua.

Then why is this not being taught today.



The reason this is not being taught today is the enemy of YHWH wants to keep YHWHs people in bondage to the Old Covenant,not enjoying the Freedom they have in Yeshua.



Freedom of Worthshipping Yeshua in spirit and in truth.



Breaking Bread without someone trying to usurp the position of Yeshua in this.



Believers Baptizing ONE ANOTHER,not just the senior pastor,pastor,elders,deacons.



As a group studying the word of YHWH under the direction and authority of the Holy SPirit.



My question is this:



Why does the one man religious system seem to think that the so-called vision of the believers comes just from the

so-called leaders.

Could you show this to me from the WOrd of YHWH.





Hos_4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.



Proverbs 29:18



(KJV) Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.



(KJV+) Where there is noH369 vision,H2377 the peopleH5971 perish:H6544 but he that keepethH8104 the law,H8451 happyH835 is he.



(LITV) Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained. But blessed is he, the one keeping the law.



(YLT) Without a Vision is a people made naked, And whoso is keeping the law, O his happiness!





English-Vision

Hebrew-חזון châzôn



חזון

châzôn

BDB Definition:

1) vision

1a) vision (in ecstatic state)

1b) vision (in night)

1c) vision, oracle, prophecy (divine communication)

1d) vision (as title of book of prophecy)

Part of Speech: noun masculine

A Related Word by BDB/Strong�s Number: from H2372



Shalom

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 10:47 AM

uuuuuuhhh, George, what in the world?:excited: ... wher do you get this idea that in America believers in Chirst don't know, and have never heard of God calling us royal priest?... And when didthe title of royal priesthood become a DOCTRINE?... I've never heard of such. And if you are not attending church, you have no idea what is being taught in the churches, nor do you know what is being taught across Amercia to make such a for-sure-as- a- matter-of-fact bold statment! geeezzz...

Being of the Royal priesthood of Christ, only means that we as Christians believers God has called us, and set us apart as believers in Christ to minister His word, and we're to be holy as Christ is holy.

We, ALL WHO BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST are to share in the same presitly activities as with Jesus, and preach and teach and tell others about the marvelous goodness of God and of His kingdom, by bringing the word of God to the lost and compeling the lost to come to Christ, nothing more and nothing less...

Sorry, but the title of Royal priesthood is a concept title of who we are as God sees us, it is NOT A DOCTRINE!

ALL CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS ARE ROYAL PRIEST if they are lving as Christ has so ordained us all to be holy and teach and be His witness to the world about the gospel grace of Jesus Christ...

George, I think you should allow the Word of God and information that you are just discovering as you read in your studies, to first SINK into your spirit, and allow the Holy Spirit to minister to you as you are discovering and coming into the different words and their meaning, as to HOW to spiritually used these words, and as to WHAT these words means as they relate to the scriptures you are reading and our relationship in Christ.

I can appreciate you studying and trying to get all spiritual knowledge of God's word, but you also seek God for understanding of His word, and what and how these words and phrases are used in spiritual concepts of the gospel, instead of you trying to use words and phrases without spiritually understanding their meanings.

May God bless you in your studying and may He open your understanding... but you also have serious need to ask God to lead you to a Bible teaching teachers who will be bale to spiritually direst you in what you are learning and have learned and correct a lot of your spiiritual error of your own understandign of God's word...

You should not try to be a teacher of something hat you yourself have no clearspiritual understanind of... this is how you fall into spiritual error. we are to seek out experienced and knowledgeable teachers God leads us to in order to confimr what we think the word is saying, just as His word teaches us to do, and every apostles and disciples did in the Bible, including Paul.

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 10:49 AM

1Co 3:3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 12:18 PM

To Et:



Thank you Ella for your reply:



Ella writes

uuuuuuhhh, George, what in the world? ... wher do you get this idea that in America believers in Chirst don't know, and have never heard of God calling us royal priest?... And when didthe title of royal priesthood become a DOCTRINE?... I've never heard of such.



Farmer

Yet i will continue to state that most people have not heard of,nor have been taught the Priesthood of believers.



How do i know this.



Wherever the people meet and are not actively meeting according to 1st Corinthians chapters 11-14.

Then the Priesthood of believers has not been taught and acted upon.







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ET

And if you are not attending church, you have no idea what is being taught in the churches, nor do you know what is being taught across Amercia to make such a for-sure-as- a- matter-of-fact bold statment! geeezzz...



Farmer

I do not 'ATTEND CHURCH',as this is attending an event instead of Meeting as believers in Yeshua.



The 'church' is an 'ORGANIZED RELIGION',based upon the teachings of men,not the Word of YHWH.

The church has a man called 'senior pastor,pastor,or church leader,conducting the service.

The service has been picked out and orchestrated in order to entertain the people and keep them ignorant of the Word of YHWH..



People come 'EMPTY' expecting to be filled.

This is not what is written in the Scriptures.







The 'BODY of BELIEVERS', is a living 'ORGANISM',with Yeshua as the Head.

There is no such thing as a 'SERVICE' when believers meet together.

This is called the meeting of the SAINTS.

As we meet,assemble, or unite together in gratitude to publicly, individually,and corporately WORTHSHIP Yeshua.

The Priesthood of Believers actively involved,assembling filled and ready to give that which the Holy SPirit has been revealing of the Word of YHWH to them throughout the week.



Shalom

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 12:38 PM

OK, yeah, right George, you laways have a word back disdianing the truth... we know you don't attend church and you are not connected to a church home, therefore, as I said you have NO IDEAD WHAT OTHER BELIEVERS ARE BEING TAUUGHT IN THE CHURCHES THEY ATTEND!

NOR DO YOU HAVE A CLUE AS TO WHAT AMERCIAN CHRISTIANS ARE TAUGHT OR WHATTHEY KNOW OR BELIEVE, cuz, you AIN'T spoken with ALL AMERICAN believers to make such a judgmental condemning statement...

So George, get a grip!... and only speak what YOU THINK YOU KNOW TO BE FACTS BASED ON, AND ACCORDING TO YOUR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE!

You just came into the word youself yesterday and now you see yourself as a spiritul filled theologian and teacher trying to tell people what is, and what isn't, and in all kind of spiritual error, and opposition of what other speak throguh scriptures of God's word... not even understanding of what you post from your books or from on the website you visit....

May God bless you!:angel:

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 12:45 PM

George said:



Do not drink alcoholic drinks.



No dancing



No drugs



No sex before marriage



Do not associate yourselves with such people.







You must live Holy



You must sanctify yourselves befor YHWH



You must be Perfect as YHWH is perfect



You must tithe



And these people just heap burden upon burden upon the people to keep them from the truth of who They are in Yeshua,namely Kings and Priests of the Most High GOD..







Elisha replys,



George it is simple, if you love Jesus refrsining from sin is not a burden and paying tithes is not a buden!



This is what i dont get about some things that you say,



if you know anything at all about the word of God you know that the old testement is full of types and shadows of the new testement.. Jesus himself said "I did not come to abolish the law but to fullfill it"

So how can you keep on saying these things that imply that we are free to sin all we want to and then we are ok , no repentence no godly sorrow not turning from sin, George are we even required to read the bible or pray if we dont want to!



See what you seem to suggest is that we can be saved and have the new birth but still live as that old sinful man in tha sinful nature , now I am not suggesting your sin nature isnt there anymore only that it is not the predomanat nature, when you become born again you then have a war inside of you its a battle and reading the word going to church and most importanly prayer are how we win this battle, it is daily!

NOW that to me is not a burden it is a struggle sometimes and I have to have Gods help however it is not a burden, SIN IS THE HEAVY BURDEN!!!! why cant you make that conection? the more sin you hold onto the heavyier your burden is!



When you lay your sind on the alter and are reborn then the burden is lifted!



If you think you (not youspecificaly george) think your saved but you have not changed in soime way , if you still do the same hings go to the same palces talk the same dress the same if you are not different you have not experienced the new birth!



as far as wothship and worship goes sorry if I misread, but you said in spirit and truth , that scripture is worship and I still dont understand how you personaly worship him, do you focus on him and praise him thats worship or part of it! but worship is also evident in how you live your life!



after all Jesus did for you or anyone else if they are trying to and figureing out in scripture how they can still commit willful sin, then it is evident to me the new birth didnt take place!



Someone who is still wllering in the same sin that they had before they say the got saved I would think is not really saved at all

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Posted : 30 Dec, 2011 12:53 PM

The PassedOver Farmer shared ~ Hey Jude; Love ya....and a Whole Lotta Gotta Tell Ya...Ummm...Ima not sure what All that was about...However...Guess ya Needed or Wanted to Continue Pressin your Point from a Previous Thread ???...and all I gotta say is...Oky Doky Poky...This Aint Burger King...But Hey...You can have it Your Way...I Luv ya too...:purpleangel:...xo

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