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Posted : 4 Aug, 2011 10:36 PM

Thus says the Lord God: Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall leaveto his wife (not wives), and thet shall be one flesh (not fleshes)..

This passage let's us know that in the beginning the marriage painting of a man and a woman in covenant contract with each other and with God, as husabnd and wife was to be one man with one woman united together in marriage as one.

One husband and one wife, not one husband with many wives.

We know that the New Testament teaches us that the marriage union is between one man and one woman. We also also know that Lamech in Genesis 4:19: �Lamech married two women.� Several prominent men in the Old Testament were polygamists. Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and others all had multiple wives.

So why do you think God allowed David and Solomon and othesr to marry or to have more than one wife?

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 03:49 AM

Good question Ella, which I don't know the answer to!:laugh:



If G-d has ordained marriage between one man and one woman, what happens when they are divorced? If G-d makes you one spiritually, are you always connected to that person? It says in the word to remarry a woman after divorce is adultery. Is this because in G-d's eyes he still views you as one, and we are bound as long as we both shall live, maybe not by natural law, but by spiritual law?

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 10:37 AM

You're confusing polygamy with polygany (Polygyny (from neo-Greek: πολύ poly - "many", and γυνή gyny - "woman or wife")[1] is a form of marriage in which a man has two or more wives at the same time.) Jeffs was trying to use OT (read "Jewish") laws given by God to justify his lifestyle. According to which polygany IS permitted.

17 �Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. - Matthew 5 NIV

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 01:35 PM

Jeff, listen, Warren Jeffs is known as a polygamist and child rapist of young girls under age of consent 12yrs. old, whom he married and had babies by these children who were themselves babies.

If a man has more than one wife it is a SIN! My question is why do you think God ALLOWED such to go on in the Old Testament, although no one knows God/s purposes, intent or His whys's He allows certain things to take place or happen, but having more than one wife was not His plans in the beginning. Otherwise God would have made more than one wife for Adam.

The Bible tells us that He created ONE WOMAN for Adam and brought HER, not them as in more than one wife to Adam.

Also, Just because God ALLOWED such during this time does not mean it was not a sin otherwise He would not have said the TWO, A man and A woman SHALL BE ONE FLESH in marriage... a man with more than one wife cannot be ONE FLESH... doesn't matter what term you used or what you call it polygny or polygamy, they both are the same SIN! Get your terms right...

Polygyny (from neo-Greek: πολύ poly - "many", and γυνή gyny - "woman or wife") is a form of marriage in which a man has two or more wives at the same time. In countries where the practice is illegal, the man is referred to as a bigamist or a polygamist. It is distinguished from relationships where a man has a sexual partner outside marriage, such as a concubine, casual sexual partner, paramour, cohabits with a married woman or other culturally but not legally recognized secondary partner. Polygyny is the most common form of polygamy; the much rarer practice of polyandry is the form of marriage in which one woman has two or more husbands at the same time.

Polygamy (from πολύς γάμος polys gamos, translated literally in Late Greek as "often married") is a marriage which includes more than two partners. When a man is married to more than one wife at a time, the relationship is called polygyny, and there is no marriage bond between the wives; and when a woman is married to more than one husband at a time, it is called polyandry, and there is no marriage bond between the husbands. If a marriage includes multiple husbands and wives, it can be called group marriage. The term is used in related ways in social anthropology, sociobiology, sociology, as well as in popular speech. In social anthropology, polygamy is the practice of a person's making him/herself available for two or more spouses to mate with. In contrast, monogamy is a marriage consisting of only two parties. Like monogamy, the term is often used in a de facto sense, applying regardless of whether the relationships are recognized by the state (see marriage for a discussion on the extent to which states can and do recognize potentially and actually polygamous forms as valid). In sociobiology and zoology, polygamy is used in a broad sense to mean any form of multiple mating.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 01:39 PM

BTW, what has the posting of Matthew to do with this topic? Surely, you are not callling warren jeffs a prophet... yes, a false prophet called of himself and his church, and the devil, but he sure IS NOT, NOR WAS he, nor IS he a prophet called of or by God!:nahnah:

So what the prupose of your scripture passage?

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 01:45 PM

I believe it was for procreation purposes.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 01:46 PM

I believe it was for procreation purposes.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 04:05 PM

I believe that God Allowed Polygamy because of the need for Women to have a Benefactor�Protector. Women were not as well educated or even as well trained as Men and therefore needed someone to Provide for them.



Also men were dying in Wars and that left many more women in need of a man. You also have to consider God�s Command to �be fruitful and Multiply�. A man could Impregnate several women at the same time.



As for today�God has Deemed through His Church that we should be as God Intended us to be�One Woman for One Man.

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Posted : 5 Aug, 2011 05:33 PM

1. God gave Adam ONE wife.







2. God commanded Solomon NOT to have more than one wife.











3. Polygamists were DENIED church office (1 Tim.3:2)











3. Jesus made it PLAIN that God's intention was for a man



to have ONE wife (Matt. 19:1-12)













And what about men who became Christians, but after they already had more than one wife?











"But though Scripture upholds monogamy as



God's pattern, it does not reject polygamists from the kingdom of grace.



The reason is obvious. Polygamy is not like other sins. A thief can stop being a thief



immediately upon his conversion; and if he does not stop after a reasonable period of



pastoral attention, he can and should be removed from the church. But a polygamist cannot



simply stop being a polygamist. He has incurred obligations to his wives, and he cannot simply



cast them off. A sinful divorce does not remedy the sin of polygamy."







(quote by John Frame)











In Christ,





James

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