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Posted : 2 Aug, 2011 06:27 PM

The Person and Work of the Holy Spirit





by: Kim Riddlebarger







Far too often we hear people speak of the Holy Spirit as an �it,� not a �who.� One reason why this is the case is that the nature of the Holy Spirit�s work is to bring glory to Jesus Christ, not to himself. This is why J. I. Packer calls the Holy Spirit the �shy member of the Trinity.� But this self-effacing role of the Spirit does not mean that the Holy Spirit is impersonal and not God. The Spirit possesses the same divine attributes as do the other members of the Trinity. Even as we speak of the Father as God, the Son as God, so too we must speak of the Holy Spirit as God. He is the third person of the Holy Trinity.



While there is not as much biblical evidence for the deity of the Holy Spirit as there is for the deity of Jesus, it would be a mistake to conclude that the evidence is neither clear nor decisive. We start with the Bible�s direct assertion that the Holy Spirit is God. In Acts 5:3-4, we read the story of Ananias and Saphirra, specifically of their deceit and the charge brought against them. �You have not lied to men but to God.� To lie to the Holy Spirit (as they did) is to lie to God. In 1 Corinthians 3:16, Paul tells us that the Spirit who indwells us, is God�s Spirit. He makes the same point in 1 Corinthians 6:19. At the very least, both of Paul�s comments are indirect assertions of the deity of the Holy Spirit.



There is significant evidence for the deity of the Holy Spirit found in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 63:10, Isaiah speaks of the Spirit of God, as does the Psalmist in Psalm 95:9. In Hebrews 3:7-9 the author of Hebrews attributes the words spoken by God in Psalm 95 to the Holy Spirit. �Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, �Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness, where your fathers put me to the test . . . for forty years.� What the Old Testament prophets attributed to God, the author of Hebrews attributes to the Holy Spirit.



Throughout the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit is said to possess divine attributes. In Genesis 1:1-2 we read that �the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.� Even as John and Paul attribute the work of creation to the Son (who is true and eternal God), so too, Moses assigns the work of creation to the Holy Spirit. In Psalm 33:6, the Psalmist states that the Holy Spirit (the Ruach, the breath of God) creates all things. As the Son is eternal, so too, is the Holy Spirit, who was with God before all things were created.



In Job 33:4, we read, �the Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.� As the Father and the Son are said to give us life, so too does the Holy Spirit. But not only does the Holy Spirit grant us life and breath, he also gives the new birth, something only God can do (John 3:5). We cannot enter God�s kingdom until God�s Spirit gives us eternal life.



Then we have a whole catalog of divine attributes applied to the Spirit. He is omniscient (in Psalm 139:7-10, the Psalmist says that the Holy Spirit is everywhere present). In 1 Corinthians 2:11, Paul says the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. God is omnipresent. The Holy Spirit is omnipresent. Therefore, the Holy Spirit is God. The Scriptures also teach that the Holy Spirit is omnipotent. In Isaiah 11:2, the Holy Spirit is described as possessing the power which God alone possesses. He is, in fact, all-powerful, because God is all-powerful.



The Scriptures mention other divine attributes of the Holy Spirit as well. The Holy Spirit is the author of our sanctification (1 Peter 1:2), he seals us unto the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13-14), ensuring that the work God has begun in us will reach completion (Ephesians 4:30). It is through the Holy Spirit that the prophets and apostles spoke (1 Peter 1:11). And Peter proclaims �[that] prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit� (1 Peter 1:21). Finally, there are those verses which speak of the work of the Spirit in uniting believers to Jesus Christ, enabling them to approach God without fear. The Holy Spirit is described by Paul as the �Spirit of prayer� (Romans 8:15-16). It is the Spirit who unites us to Christ and enables us to cry out to God. It is the Spirit�s work to ensure that the saving benefits of Christ become ours.



Given this vast amount of biblical data and the great confusion of our age regarding the God of the Bible, it is vital that since the Holy Spirit is God (with the Father and the Son), we worship God in unity and the Godhead in Tri-unity. For God is one, yet revealed in three distinct persons who are each God.



Since the Spirit is the third person of the Holy Trinity and is true and eternal God, then we must invoke, worship, and serve the blessed Holy Spirit, even as we do the Father and the Son. After all, we are baptized into the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:9). The apostolic benediction is given in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we must ascribe all glory, majesty and honor to the Holy Spirit, even as we do so to the other members of the Godhead. We pray to the Holy Spirit, we worship the Holy Spirit, we invoke the blessed Holy Spirit.

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Posted : 2 Aug, 2011 08:39 PM

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Given this vast amount of biblical data and the great confusion of our age regarding the God of the Bible, it is vital that since the Holy Spirit is God (with the Father and the Son), we worship God in unity and the Godhead in Tri-unity. For God is one, yet revealed in three distinct persons who are each God.





My oh my James:

YWHW says in His WORD that we are to be Worthshipping both th Father and the SON,

But NOWHERE is it mentioned that we are to Worthship the

Holy Spirit.



The Holy SPirit NEVER-NO -NEVER brings attention to Himself.

HE the Holy Spirit is to bring Attention,and Glory to Yeshua.

John 16:12 I have yet many things to tell you, but you are not able to bear now.

John 16:13 But when that One comes, the Spirit of Truth, He will guide you into all Truth, for He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will announce the coming things to you.

John 16:14 That One will glorify Me, for He will receive from Mine and will announce to you.















James:

Since the Spirit is the third person of the Holy Trinity and is true and eternal God, then we must invoke, worship, and serve the blessed Holy Spirit, even as we do the Father and the Son.





my oh my James:

We are to SREVE YHWH,and Yeshua.

The Holy Spirit EMPOWERS believers to this.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.













James:

After all, we are baptized into the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:9).





My oh My:

This person has this correct,People are Baptized 'Into' the name of the Father,Son and the Holy Spirit.

This says to teach and instruct others the Name(s) of GOD as revealed within the Scriptures.

This is part of DISCIPLNG others.





James

The apostolic benediction is given in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we must ascribe all glory, majesty and honor to the Holy Spirit, even as we do so to the other members of the Godhead.





My oh my:

Again,the Holy Spirit brings attention and Glory to Yeshua.

John 16:13 But when that One comes, the Spirit of Truth, He will guide you into all Truth, for He will not speak from Himself, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will announce the coming things to you.

John 16:14 That One will glorify Me, for He will receive from Mine and will announce to you.







James:

We pray to the Holy Spirit, we worship the Holy Spirit, we invoke the blessed Holy Spirit.



My oh my:



SCRIPTURE says, we pray to the Father THROUGH the Son,not the Holy Spirit.



John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:





James,I love you;

Yet i do not want to have you copying and posting other peoples writings.

I want to see what the GOD of Heaven and Earth has been revealing to you,of Himself.



John 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.





Shalom

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Posted : 2 Aug, 2011 09:01 PM

Passedover,



It sounds like you believe that the Holy Spirit is some kind of impersonal force, instead of God.



I believe that God is triune in nature, and the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are all God.



Three persons in one God.



You are saying that We should not worship God the Holy Spirit?



In Christ,





James

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Posted : 2 Aug, 2011 09:56 PM

James:

Can you,not someone you copy and paste from.

Can you show at least ONE Scripture which says that we are to be Worshipping the Holy Spirit.

Just ONE Scripture.



Had you been keeping abreast of my writings,i have Proclaimed my beliefs of the GODHEAD,along with my understanding of the Word of GOD,concerning;



Salvation by GRACE through Faith in Yeshua

The Sovereignty of GOD in His Salvation of His Elect.



I had in the past written about the Holy Spirit.



Yet for a lot of what i write,which is from the Word of GOD,using the Greek and Hebrew texts,

Along with Greek and Hebrew Lexicons,and Concordances to show the Word definitions.

3 or more translations ,along with other helps in studying the Word of GOD.



Some of the so-called believers here just rail on me,and accuse me of being an unbeliever,

Yet that is OK,the Pharisees did the same with Yeshua,Paul

and the other Disciples.



Must be the conviction of the Holy Spirit.



James,I do not Worship the Holy Spirit.

I worship both YHWH,and Yeshua in Spirit and in truth as the Holy Spirit 'EMPOWERS',e to Worthship.



Shalom



John 4:20 Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you say that in Jerusalem is the place where it is necessary to worship.

John 4:21 Jesus said to her, Woman, believe Me that an hour is coming when you will worship the Father neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem.

John 4:22 You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is of the Jews.

John 4:23 But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. For the Father also seeks such, the ones worshiping Him.

John 4:24 God is spirit, and the ones worshiping Him must worship in spirit and truth.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2011 07:13 AM

Good discernment Pass, the article was good up until the last two paragraphs, which did not seem completely accurate, although contained partial truth, just enough to deceive even the elect of G-d.

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2011 08:50 AM

James copied post states:



The Person and Work of the Holy Spirit



by: Kim Riddlebarger





Far too often we hear people speak of the Holy Spirit as an �it,� not a �who.� One reason why this is the case is that the nature of the Holy Spirit�s work is to bring glory to Jesus Christ, not to himself. This is why J. I. Packer calls the Holy Spirit the �shy member of the Trinity.� But this self-effacing role of the Spirit does not mean that the Holy Spirit is impersonal and not God. The Spirit possesses the same divine attributes as do the other members of the Trinity. Even as we speak of the Father as God, the Son as God, so too we must speak of the Holy Spirit as God. He is the third person of the Holy Trinity.





James copied posting says:

While there is not as much biblical evidence for the deity of the Holy Spirit as there is for the deity of Jesus, it would be a mistake to conclude that the evidence is neither clear nor decisive.





Mr.Insensitive:

This statement marks the beginning of the end to this post.



Not much Biblical evidence to the 'DEITY' of the Holy Spirit of GOD.



Here are a few Scriptures to refute this.



Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth;

Gen 1:2 and the earth being without form and empty, and darkness on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moving gently on the face of the waters,







The Holy Spirit in man,empowering man unto the work of GOD.



Exo 31:2 See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah:

Exo 31:3 And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,

Exo 31:4 To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,



Jdg_3:10 And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he judged Israel, and went out to war: and the LORD delivered Chushanrishathaim king of Mesopotamia into his hand; and his hand prevailed against Chushanrishathaim.



Jdg_14:19 And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he went down to Ashkelon, and slew thirty men of them, and took their spoil, and gave change of garments unto them which expounded the riddle. And his anger was kindled, and he went up to his father's house.





1Co 12:4 And there are differences of gifts, but the same Spirit;

1Co 12:5 and there are differences of ministries, yet the same Lord.

1Co 12:6 And there are differences of workings, but the same God is working all things in all.

1Co 12:7 And to each one is given the showing forth of the Spirit to our profit.





The Holy Spirit upon man to Prophesy.

Num 11:25 And the LORD came down in a cloud, and spake unto him, and took of the spirit that was upon him, and gave it unto the seventy elders: and it came to pass, that, when the spirit rested upon them, they prophesied, and did not cease.

Num 11:26 But there remained two of the men in the camp, the name of the one was Eldad, and the name of the other Medad: and the spirit rested upon them; and they were of them that were written, but went not out unto the tabernacle: and they prophesied in the camp.



Mat_10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.





The Holy Spirit sends out people.

Isa 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.



Act_8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.



Act 10:19 And as Peter pondered concerning the vision, the Spirit said to him, Behold, three men are seeking you.

Act 10:20 But rising up, go down and go with them, not discriminating, because I have sent them.







The Holy Spirit is Omnipotent.

The Holy Spirit stands against the enemy of GOD.



Isa 59:19 So they shall fear Jehovah's name from the west, and His glory from the rising of the sun. When the foe comes like a flood, the Spirit of Jehovah shall cause him to flee.



The Holy Spirit can be grieved.

Isa 63:10 But they rebelled, and provoked His Holy Spirit, so He was turned to be their enemy; He fought against them.



Eph_4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.



The Holy Spirit is as Yeshua,in every aspect.(Completely equal in every way,even Diety).

John 14:16 And I will petition the Father, and He will give you another Comforter, that He may remain with you to the age,



The word 'ANOTHER' in Greek: 'Allos'

Defintion:243 �llos (a primitive word) � another of the same kind; another of a similar type.



These Scriptures are just some of the Word of GOD which speaks of the Holy Spirit,being GOD.



James posted:

We start with the Bible�s direct assertion that the Holy Spirit is God. In Acts 5:3-4, we read the story of Ananias and Saphirra, specifically of their deceit and the charge brought against them. �You have not lied to men but to God.� To lie to the Holy Spirit (as they did) is to lie to God. In 1 Corinthians 3:16, Paul tells us that the Spirit who indwells us, is God�s Spirit. He makes the same point in 1 Corinthians 6:19. At the very least, both of Paul�s comments are indirect assertions of the deity of the Holy Spirit.





Mr.Insensitive:

Why earlier did this writer say,there was not much evidence concerning the Holy spirit and His diety.



While there is not as much biblical evidence for the deity of the Holy Spirit as there is for the deity of Jesus, it would be a mistake to conclude that the evidence is neither clear nor decisive



Now this same writer says this:

There is significant evidence for the deity of the Holy Spirit found in the Old Testament. In Isaiah 63:10, Isaiah speaks of the Spirit of God, as does the Psalmist in Psalm 95:9. In Hebrews 3:7-9 the author of Hebrews attributes the words spoken by God in Psalm 95 to the Holy Spirit. �Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says, �Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, on the day of testing in the wilderness, where your fathers put me to the test . . . for forty years.� What the Old Testament prophets attributed to God, the author of Hebrews attributes to the Holy Spirit.







Throughout the Scriptures, the Holy Spirit is said to possess divine attributes. In Genesis 1:1-2 we read that �the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.� Even as John and Paul attribute the work of creation to the Son (who is true and eternal God), so too, Moses assigns the work of creation to the Holy Spirit. In Psalm 33:6, the Psalmist states that the Holy Spirit (the Ruach, the breath of God) creates all things. As the Son is eternal, so too, is the Holy Spirit, who was with God before all things were created.







In Job 33:4, we read, �the Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.� As the Father and the Son are said to give us life, so too does the Holy Spirit. But not only does the Holy Spirit grant us life and breath, he also gives the new birth, something only God can do (John 3:5). We cannot enter God�s kingdom until God�s Spirit gives us eternal life.







Then we have a whole catalog of divine attributes applied to the Spirit. He is omniscient (in Psalm 139:7-10, the Psalmist says that the Holy Spirit is everywhere present). In 1 Corinthians 2:11, Paul says the Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. God is omnipresent. The Holy Spirit is omnipresent. Therefore, the Holy Spirit is God. The Scriptures also teach that the Holy Spirit is omnipotent. In Isaiah 11:2, the Holy Spirit is described as possessing the power which God alone possesses. He is, in fact, all-powerful, because God is all-powerful.







The Scriptures mention other divine attributes of the Holy Spirit as well. The Holy Spirit is the author of our sanctification (1 Peter 1:2), he seals us unto the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13-14), ensuring that the work God has begun in us will reach completion (Ephesians 4:30). It is through the Holy Spirit that the prophets and apostles spoke (1 Peter 1:11). And Peter proclaims �[that] prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit� (1 Peter 1:21). Finally, there are those verses which speak of the work of the Spirit in uniting believers to Jesus Christ, enabling them to approach God without fear. The Holy Spirit is described by Paul as the �Spirit of prayer� (Romans 8:15-16). It is the Spirit who unites us to Christ and enables us to cry out to God. It is the Spirit�s work to ensure that the saving benefits of Christ become ours.







Given this vast amount of biblical data and the great confusion of our age regarding the God of the Bible, it is vital that since the Holy Spirit is God (with the Father and the Son), we worship God in unity and the Godhead in Tri-unity. For God is one, yet revealed in three distinct persons who are each God.







Since the Spirit is the third person of the Holy Trinity and is true and eternal God, then we must invoke, worship, and serve the blessed Holy Spirit, even as we do the Father and the Son. After all, we are baptized into the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:9). The apostolic benediction is given in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Therefore, we must ascribe all glory, majesty and honor to the Holy Spirit, even as we do so to the other members of the Godhead. We pray to the Holy Spirit, we worship the Holy Spirit, we invoke the blessed Holy Spirit.





Mr.Insensitive:

2Ti 2:15 Give diligence to present yourself approved to God, a workman unashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth.



Do not just be trusting man,just because they might be in some position within a local assembly.

Be as the Bereans were with paul,

These people were called NOBLE.



Act 17:11 And these were more noble than those in Thessalonica, for they received the Word with all readiness, daily examining the Scriptures if these things are so.





Shalom

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2011 04:34 PM

Why should James do as you ask when you Cut & Paste all that responce to & at him...George, George, George...those are not your words they be some elses...:rolleyes:...xo

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2011 04:39 PM

Passedover said:



Can you show at least ONE Scripture which says that we are to be Worshipping the Holy Spirit.





James replies:



We should worship no one but God right?



The Holy Spirit IS God.



Therefore, we should worship the Holy Spirit.



Unless of course if you are saying that the Holy Spirit is not God?





I think I can show plenty of Scripture that the Holy Spirit is NOT an impersonal force, but a PERSON of the Godhead.



In Christ,





James

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2011 07:55 PM

@ jude



The Scripture posted is of someone else,that is YHWH.



Almost everything else has been given to me of the Holy Spirit.



And besides that,i had written that to James not you.



Shalom

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Posted : 3 Aug, 2011 07:59 PM

James:

I am not asking for proof of the Holy Spirits Deity.

I believe i had given enough of that by the Scriptures.



I would ask for Biblical PROOF which states that believers in Yeshua are to be PRAYING TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

And are to be WORSHIPPING THE HOLY SPIRIT.



The Holy Spirit brings all of this to Yeshua not, Himself.



Please bring the Scripture about Praying to and worshipping the Holy Spirit.



Shalom

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Posted : 4 Aug, 2011 08:54 AM

Just so you will know George, as members of the body of Christ in America, we refer to the father of the Lord Jesus, as Father knowing he loves to be addressed as father. The son of our spiritual father is the lord Jesus, Amen

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