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A Stealth Dispensationalist On Ol Dave Frantz's Short Wave Station
Posted : 31 Jul, 2011 05:32 AM
A Stealth Dispensationalist On Ol Dave Frantz's Short Wave Station
This was posted in 2004 on a Christian Yahoo Group, cmnfolks. In it I
first used the term "Stealth Dispensationalist." I did not give the name
of the guy who was then broadcasting on Dave Frantz's short wave station,
and I have since forgotten his name. He was not a Christian celebrity. He
answered my letter and we exchanged a few messages by old time snail mail.
It is not surprising that a man on the radio, whether FM, AM, or short wave,
would be a dispensationalist. A very high percentage of evangelicals on the
radio are dispensationalists. Pete Peters, who died recently, was one
exception. He was into Christian Identity, another problem theology. Harold
Camping was another guy on the radio who was not a dispensationalist. Camping
got into his strange use of the pre-trib rapture only in the last few years.
Camping was also into numerology and his is beyond that found in Scripture. I
looked at his date of May 21, 2011, for his version of the rapture, and its
not necessarily based upon prime numbers, which are used by the ruling elite to
set important dates.
A Stealth Dispensationalist is one who does not admit to being one, and
much of his teaching appears to be sound, out of scripture. At present,
a stealth dispensationalist would be one who has rejected the pre-trib
rapture, but sticks to the doctrine that God has two distinctly different
peoples, the Jews and the church, with whom he deals in different ways.
"I was interested in Michael A. Hoffman�s Judaism�s Strange Gods, and
Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare. On hearing a short wave
broadcaster talking about preterism, Tom Valentine, The American
Free Press, I wrote to him, asking if he knew where Hoffman is coming
from. He answered saying that Hoffman is �Promulgating the party line
of Romanism.� He is referring to his Judaism�s Strange Gods. The
broadcaster citied a book by Dagobert D. Runes, The Popes Against the
Jews. This book discusses the exposure of the Talmud by the Jesuits in
Italian newspapers in the late 19th century. "The Jesuits went beyond
mere exposure of the problems of the Talmud to an attack upon the
character of the entire Jewish people, and this may have helped cause
the Nazi holocaust."
In obedience to Ephesians 5:11, we can expose the Talmud and the
Kabballah. But New Testament morality does not allow Christians to
attack the character of any group of people as the Jesuits apparently
did.
The broadcaster also fired off his cannon at Strong�s Exhaustive
Concordance and Replacemenet Theology, and says there is no evidence
for a Greek version of the OT, the Septuagint, in the first century.
He also claimed that Texe Marrs may be an agent of the Jesuits.
I wrote him in a second letter saying he may be following the
dispensationalist teaching about Jewish Supremacy in some form during
the end times and/or I the millennium. In his reply he did not
acknowledge that he is a follower of the dispensationalists. Instead,
he said �I urge you to read the Bible without seeking to figure what
the contending viewpoints would place on each verse, but take them at
face value. Jeremiah 30:7-11 and Jeremiah 31:10-12 indeed are plain
that there is a total restoration of the nation (he means Israel)
spiritually and physically.� God in II Kings 17:15-20 said he ��
rejected the seed of Israel�� and in Jeremiah 3:8 he divorced Israel
and the implication is that he also divorced Judah at about the time
that southern nation was utterly defeated by the Babylonians.
He has made a number of broadcasts saying there will be some kind of
restoration of the nation of Israel, that is, of the Jews, and warning
Christians not to bash or even criticize the Jews. Yet he has, to my
knowledge, not identified himself with the dispensationalist Big Guns
like John Darby, C. I. Scofield, Lewis S. Chafer, John Walvoord or
Charles C. Ryrie. I wonder if he went to �cemetery�.
However, in his January 10th broadcast he comes closer to coming out
and saying what he is all about in being so protective of the Jews and
insisting on some vague kind of Jewish kingdom in the end times. He
cites Matthew 19:28 where Jesus said to his disciples ��in the
regeneration when the Son of Man shall sit on the throne of his glory,
ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of
Israel.� The broadcaster says this mention of the twelve tribes of
Israel shows us the �regeneration� is to be an earthly Jewish kingdom.
He also said that the prayer Jesus taught the disciples to pray in
Matthew 6:9-13 is a Jewish prayer.
His second reference to the New Testament was Acts 1:6, �When they
therefore were come together, they asked of him (Jesus), saying,
�Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?�
And he said unto them, �It is not for you to know the times or the
seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. �
Our short wave broadcaster says Acts 1:6 and Matthew 19:28 prove that
the restoration of the nation of Israel, that is the Jews as a total
people, is found in the New Testament.
In Acts 1:6 Peter, John and the other disciples were believers but
they were yet unregenerate. They had not yet received the Holy Spirit
who regenerated them spiritually; after the Holy Spirit came to them
at Pentecost, they were Born Again. Our short wave broadcaster is
looking to unregenerate disciples�without the Holy Spirit�for his
doctrine.
I do not know why Jesus did not correct the disciples and tell them in
Acts 1:6 that in the regeneration there would be no distinction
between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians and that all must be
Born Again to enter in. We know that the Holy Spirit did come to the
disciples at Pentecost and that by Acts 15 Peter, James and probably
the other main disciples were made aware by the Spirit that Gentiles
too received the Holy Spirit and were Born Again.
In Acts 15:9 Peter says the Gentiles were given the Holy Ghost and God
��put no difference between us (the Christians who were formerly Jews)
and them, purifying their hearts by faith.� In verse 15-17 James says
�And to this agree the words of the prophets: as it is written.� What
agrees with the words of the prophets? It is that the Gentiles were
being given the Spirit and were Born Again, which agrees with the
words of the prophets. James, in verses 15-17, quotes Amos 9:11, which
in the OT King James says �In that day will I raise up the tabernacle
of David that is fallen, and close up the branches thereof; and I will
raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old. The
quote by James in Acts 15:25-27 says �After this I will return, and
will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down: and I
will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up. That the
residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon
whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.�
James seems also to quote Hosea 3:5 in the last part of his
quotations. Hosea 3:5 says �Afterward shall the children of Israel
return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king: and shall
fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days. Isaiah 54:2-3 does
mention that the Gentiles will be included in the restoration of
Israel.
In Acts 1:6, before the Holy Spirit came to them at Pentecost, the
disciples were believers in Christ, but they were yet spiritually
unregenerate, not Born Again. In the condition of being believers but
not being Born Again, they were much more likely to hold to false
teaching. One of these false teachings was that the Jewish Messiah
would come and re-establish a physical and earthly Jewish kingdom.
They knew nothing of God�s plan that the Jews must be Born Again in
order for God to take them back, after he had divorced them. In the
same way, many people in the present day incorporated, tax exempt
501c(3) churches are believers, but not Born Again, and so they too
easily accept false doctrines taught them by the hireling pastors.
On his December 6th broadcast, this pastor said �We Christians regard
the Jews as a special people� The new birth pertains to the nation of
Israel� God never grants repentance to an entire Gentile nation. Why?
Because the Jews come first.� He says to expose the Talmud is to label
the Jews as being dirty. Although he is teaching false doctrine that
there is to be some sort of Jewish Supremacy in the end times,
nevertheless it is important to look at this false doctrine. Paul says
in Galations 4:19, �My little children, of whom I travail in birth
again until Christ be formed in you.� If many hireling preachers in
the apostate churches teach church members that during a part of the
tribulation and/or in the millennium there will be only Jews and not
also Christian Gentiles, or that Christian Gentiles will be second
rate citizens or mere servants, what does this do to their identity in
Christ? If a Christian is second rate to the Jews, can Christ be
formed in him or her?
I Peter 2:9-10 has an answer to the false doctrine of Jewish Supremacy
in saying, �But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an
holy nation, a peculiar people that ye should show forth the praises
of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:
which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of
God..."� Peter is not saying that this chosen generation are the Jews
only, but are made up of all kinds of different peoples.
Paul criticized Peter in Galatians 2:11-13 for being so afraid of the
Jews that at Antioch Peter withdrew from eating with the Christian
Gentiles to eat with the Jews. The Jews had a custom that they could
not eat with Gentiles. Paul says "�I withstood him to the face,
because he was to be blamed..:� Paul would tolerate no distinction
between Christian Jews and Christian Gentiles.
Yet the evidence of New Testament Scripture that the Judaism of
Christ�s time was not the religion of the Old Testament, and texts of
the NT showing that there is to be no distinction between Jews and
Gentiles in Christ does not allow Christians to attack Jews beyond
pointing out these Scriptural proofs.
The Jews in Israel, in the U.S. and elsewhere, may play an important
role in the end times, even though there is not to be an exclusively
Jewish national restoration. We should pay attention to how the
American Zionist Jews and the Christian Jewish Supremacists influenced
by dispensationalism are now supporting these wars, and there may be
more to come. Christian celebrities who are dispensationalists�or
Jewish Supremacists�like Hal Lindsey, are supporting the Bush wars in
the middle east to protect Israel. I heard Hal Lindsey try to justify
the invasion of Iraq on the Joyce Riley show, and it may be that
dispensational celebrities such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson
have said similar things in support of the Bush wars. Jesus said "�it
must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the
offense commeth (Matthew 18:7, and Luke 17:1).� I still do not know
where Michael A. Hoffman is coming from. In the two books of his that
I read, he does seem to show an interest in things Catholic.
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