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False spirits in the church
Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 05:45 AM

If you search for Kundalini and Shakti on the Internet, you will find that multitudes of people in the New Age and Eastern religions still experience these powerful manifestations. Often this is with the help of a Guru, who touches them on the forehead so that they can experience a "Kundalini Awakening".



As researcher Robert Walker wrote in 1995: "The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'. At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead, by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or divine touch. The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini. After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably, sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called 'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness."



And as the guru Shri Yog�nandji Mah�r�ja wrote: "When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions. the Kundalini Shakti has become active."



In China there is a popular Kundalini-type movement called 'Qigong'. When a Chinese Qigong spiritual master spoke in the USA in

1991, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that many in the crowd began to experience "spontaneous movements". The master told his audience, "Those who are sensitive might start having some strong physical sensations - or start or crying. Don't worry. This is quite normal."



When you see videos of these "kriyas" or other Kundalini-type manifestations, you would often swear that you are watching a modern "Impartation"-type church meeting. (And I say this as someone who believes strongly in the gifts of the Holy Spirit. I just don't believe in "alien" anointings infiltrating the Body of Christ! There is a big difference between Kundalini and the real Holy Spirit).



Since 1993-4, I believe a foreign spirit has been allowed to invade the church - first through Rodney Howard-Browne's ministry - then Toronto, then the Prophetic movement (which I was part of at the time) and on into Lakeland and many other ministries and movements. I urge people now to "test the spirits" just as we are commanded to in Scripture. Do not let just anyone lay hands on you. This is a powerful spirit and it has the backing of a lot of big-name ministries. In fact, these men and women are the very ones responsible for allowing it to spread right through the body of Christ. And one day they will be answerable to God for doing so.



We are specifically warned in the Bible that the Last Days will be a time of "seducing spirits," false prophets, 'lying signs and wonders,' and that we always need to watch for "angels of light" masquerading as the real thing. Why does the modern church not take these warnings seriously? Aren't we living in the very days that the Bible warns about?



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Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 06:57 AM

I know for a fact there are certain elements in organized religion that DO take these things seriously. But I think for most in organized religion, it's just a career. I've long suspected if you could read people's minds you'd learn a disturbing truth: that the majority of those in religious work don't really believe in God and are of the sort who think they can "fake it til they make it."

Historically, 3-piece suits were the symbollic uniform of Business. So preachers in 3-piece suits are really just in it for the money. Can look nice and dignified in attire not involving Business dress, but they choose it instead of something else. That there was a choice and they chose a suit is very revealing.

Those of us of true faith remind me of a line from an old X-Files episode, "There's always someone watching Agent Mulder." one of the 'Lone Gunman.'

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 07:59 AM

Shalom it is more like those that continually comment on these matters are just carnal and ignorant to the things of God.



living in the flesh what you see on this forum as a whole is usually wrong.

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 08:32 AM

Great post Shalom. The only thing God does not call thme false spirits, He calls them UNCLEAN SEDUCING LYING DECEIVING SPIRITS!:rocknroll:... this si why Paul teaches us to be rooted and grounded in the Word of God's truth so that we might be able to discern what is of the Holy Spirit of God, and the unclean spirit of satan!

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 11:04 AM

Awesome post Shalom...I totaly Agree when you shared..."There is a big difference between Kundalini and the real Holy Spirit)."...We must always Guard our Hearts and Try the Spirits...God Bless you for the Good Word...xo

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 11:45 AM

Great post Shalom. :applause:

I will repeat what I said before:



I do not know other movements except theToronto blessing.



I told you before that people in this organisation are demons-possesed.



We know that the true christians could not be demons-possesed!



So, demons deceive these people and it is evident!



People suffer from demonic influence.



One of my friends was among there for many tears and even untill today get get free from madness which he saw there and did with them!!!



Do you want to see what demons make in the so-called christian churches?



Look at it here:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCeVZ6e2T0E&playnext=1&list=PL8168824CFFFA8FFF



I am called by my God to speak about such madness in the churches to show them what demons do among them and reasons why they all will get to the lake of Fire after their Judgment!

Why do people buy into these crazy teachings? Don't they know any better? The Bible tells us that in the last days, there will literally be a cult explosion�an ever-growing plethora of every belief system possible except the right one.



The Bible tells us that Satan will:



"Use every kind of wicked deception to fool those who are on their way to destruction because they refuse to believe the truth that would save them. So God will send great deception upon them, and they will believe all these lies. Then they will be condemned for not believing the truth and for enjoying the evil they do" (2 Thess. 2:10-12 NLT).



You know something is popular when you start seeing the knock-offs or imitations. The Devil is not very original. He has always seen the value of copying something, and, in so doing, confusing the issue. It seems that whenever there is a genuine work of the Spirit of God, Satan will have his imitation.



Consider Pharaoh's magicians, who were able to duplicate the miracles of Moses, such as the plague of blood in the Nile, and the plague of frogs (see Exodus 7-8).



Jesus told the parable of the wheat and the tares (Matthew 13:24-30). In the story, a man planted wheat in a field, but his enemy came at night and planted tares (or the darnel seed) in the same field. Initially, this tare looks just like the wheat. But as time goes by, it actually uproots the wheat and ultimately destroys it.



These days while God is working, the devil is planting his tares. When they are exposed, people say, "See�they are all hypocrites!" As Peter said, "Christ and his true way will be slandered" through this. Yet, the presence of so many imitations should actually prove that there is an Original.



Whatever we have as Christians, you can be sure that Satan has a counterfeit version:



He has a false gospel that tells you that you can make up the rules as you go.



Along with this false gospel comes a false hope. People think that because they have gone through a certain religious ritual, they are eternally secure.



He has a false messiah. Satan always wanted the top job in heaven, and he has never gotten over losing his once exalted position. In these last days, he will thrust his imitation messiah�the Antichrist� on the world scene.



Here we see Satan's unholy trinity:



Satan, imitating God (and, for a short time, having the worship of people worldwide)



The Antichrist masquerading as the Son



The false prophet impersonating the Holy Spirit



The Work of the Antichrist



The Antichrist will bring about a new religious system that will accommodate everyone. We are currently in the midst of a cult explosion. Whether it be Dianetics, EST, goddess worship, reincarnation, astrology, holistic healing, or any of a hundred consciousness raising techniques of our day�the modern age is on a search for some mystical divine unity. The times are ripe for a world religion.



Brothers,

we ALL listen to the words of God (seed of God) but WE determine what kind of soil our heart will be!!!



We all need to make a real commitment to God Jesus because He is going to judge not only what we say but our motives!



That's why if our mouth will bark like these people bark in this video I provided you above with, then God will judge not only your barking but WHY did you decide to bark!



Is it a genuine imitation of God?!



A barking god is NOT God of Israel. My Father does not bark. He is teaching me to be separated from the madness of the world! I am able to see and understand what is madness and how to live correct.



Why? Because if you are born of God, you KNOW God. And God is not a barking dog! And His HOLY sons are not barking as these fake-churches do! Knowing God, we do what our God says.



Those who bark are demons-possessed. If God is livening in you, demons cannt live in you.



If those who bark in you are NOT the HOLY God of Israel, then who bark in you are demons! It is the manifestation of demons! We can clearly see it on this video!



You should GET RID of your demons TURNING your heart to God, repenting and asking Him to forgive your sins and connections with demons. Then you will be FREE.



If your god is a dog then HOW are you going to get to the Kingdom of God of Israel?!



Get out of your dogs living inside of you and be a son not of demons but the HOLY God of Israel! His sons said:



But everything should be done (in the Church) decently and in orderly way. 1 Corinthians 14:40



If you do not know what is decently then you SHOULD know it. Because God is going to judge your actions and motives. There is NO MADNESS in this God!



Shame on you all who bark and say that God barks in you and through you....your dog-god cannt be the HOLY God of Israel!!!!! .... usually those that oppose the truth as such on the video have not received the Holy Spirit but they receive dogs spirits/demons to bark and oppose the Truth!



God will punish such people perverting the Truth in their cults and deceiving people!

There is no madness in God and those who follow God, are the HOLY and small Remnant. The majority will perish..even among christians.



Because they chose their own truth which is OPOSITE to the God�s Truth. Such people by being Christians are unbelievers and they all flow to the hell fire by millions!



God Jesus said about them:



You Will Know Them by Their Fruits



�Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep�s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.



I Never Knew You



21 �Not everyone who says to Me, �Lord, Lord,� shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, �Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?� 23 And then I will declare to them, �I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!� Matthew 7

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Posted : 27 Jul, 2011 02:31 PM

EXCELLENT post Bahira, Thank you dear sister for revealing this treasure of truth!!

G-d bless and keep you, make HIS face shine on you and be gracious to you, and give you peace.:prayingm:

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