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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 01:40 PM

Ephesians 1;3 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ".

sounds simple enough.



From memory "for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..."

sounds simple enough



Ist Thess. 1:10 "and to wait for his (God's) Son from the heaven whom (God) raised from the dead even (in italics in KJ, so its an added word) Jesus..'

sounds simple enough



Romans 1:3 "concerning his (God's) son Jesus Christ our Lord..."

sounds simple enough



Romans 1:4 "and declared to be (both words in italics in KJ, added words) the Son of God..."

sounds simple enough



Ist corn. 1;9 "God is faithful by whom (God) ye were called (God did the calling) unto the fellowship of his (God's) Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

sounds simple enough



bless,

michael

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 02:14 PM

uhhh, so Michael the topic of your thread is , Jesus Christ is not God... my question to you is, If Jesus Christ is not God, than who is He?... sounds simple enough.

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 02:15 PM

I am thinking the Son of God.

bless,

michael

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 02:31 PM

John 10:30~ ["I ] {Jesus} and my [ Father are one." ]

(KJV)...:yay:...Sounds Simpler to me...xo

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Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 03:06 PM

That is the Mystery of The Trinity�Three Separate � Distinct � Entities�yet they are ALL ONE and the SAME -- GOD!

This has been debated�analyzed�dissected and The Church finally came to that very Conclusion.



There is a story about Saint Augustine where he was walking along the shore thinking about The Trinity when he came upon a child digging a hole in the sand.



�What are you doing there child?� asked St. Augustine.



�I am digging a hole so that the entire ocean will flow into it� answered the little boy.



St. Augustine laughed and said �What makes you think that that little hole could possibly hold the entire ocean?�



The little boy looked up at St. Augustine, smiled and replied �For the same reason that you think your small mind can hold the Mystery of The Trinity�.



St. Augustine blinked; stunned by this child�s answer he turned around and walked away. After a few steps he turned around, wanting to know this remarkable child�s name�only to find that he had Disappeared!



Minds WISER than you and I have come to the Conclusion that JESUS was both a man (Son of God) and God Himself. Be Obedient and BELIEVE!



Blessings Brother!

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 03:11 PM

Titus 2:13: "We wait for the Blessed Hope--the glorious appearing of our ***GREAT GOD*** and Savior, Jesus Christ."



John 1:1-3: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God {The Father} in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without Him nothing was made that has been made."



Christians are commanded to worship God *ALONE* as per Rev 19:10 & Rev 22:8,9 and hundreds of other Scripture. Rev 5:13,14: Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the sea and all that is in them, singing: "To Him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb {Jesus} be praise and honor and power and glory, for ever and ever!" The four living creatures said "Amen," and the elders fell down and WORSHIPED! {The Lamb, Jesus}



Hebrews 1:6-8: When God brings His firstborn into the world, He says, "Let all God's angels WORSHIP HIM!"....But about the Son He {JEHOVAH GOD} says, "Your throne, O ***GOD*** will last for ever and ever!" Rev 22:3: The throne of God {The Father} and of the Lamb {Jesus} will be in the City {The eternal New Jerusalem} Rev 3:21: Jesus says, "To him who overcomes:rolleyes: I will give the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne." There will be only TWO thrones for Jesus and His Father in the eternal New Jerusalem {according to Rev 22:3 above} and they are only TWO who should be worshiped both now and for ever and ever. Hebrews 1:8: About the Son He {The Father} says, "Your throne,**** O God****, will last for ever and ever.!!":applause:



Isaiah 9:6,7: " For to us a child is born, to us a Son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, ***Mighty God****, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over His kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."



Isaiah 7:14: The Lord Himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a Son and will call Him *IMMANUEL*!!" {Which means in Hebrew ***"GOD WITH US"****!!}:peace:

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 03:14 PM

I love the discussion, please post more...the more complex the better... anything obscure, anything but anything to hold onto error.

bless,

michael

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Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 03:29 PM

Arch :excited:...Stev-A-Reno...your back..:yay:...Yippy !!!!....I love that story...and I LOVE YOU...:hearts:...my Brother in the Lord Jesus...Dont ya just Love it when a person says "Jesus is not GOD" and yet the Concept of the Trinity is Lost in the Shuffel of Correctness or Error...Right or Wrong ?...Ya can post a Scripture and its just Blown By...:rolleyes:...Its like someone saying...I Know...I Know...I Know...but the question is...OK...you know...BUT...do you Understand ???...:winksmile:

KJV ~ Isaiah 55:8~ For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD...xo

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Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 03:42 PM

The New Testament abounds with proof for the deity of Jesus Christ. In eight passages, Jesus is described by the Greek word Theos (God): John 1:1-3; 1:18; 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Titus 2:13; Heb. 1:8; 2 Pet. 1:1; 1 John 5:20. Divine attributes, such as eternality (Isa. 9:6; John 1:1,2; Rev. 1:8; 22:13), omnipresence (Matt. 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13), omniscience (John 2:24,25; 21:17; Rev. 2:23), omnipotence (Isa. 9:6; Phil. 3:21; Rev. 1:8), immutability (Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8), and in general, every attribute of the Father is ascribed to the Son (Col. 2:9).



The New Testament also depicts Jesus as exercising Divine prerogatives and works: creation (John 1:3,10; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:2,10), providence (Luke 10:22; John 3:35; 17:2; Eph. 1:22; Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3), the forgiveness of sins (Matt. 9:2-7; Mark 2:7-10; Col. 3:13), resurrection and judgment (Matt. 25:31,32; John 5:19-29; Acts 10:42; 17:31; Phil. 3:21; 2 Tim. 4:1), and the final dissolution and renewal of all things (Eph. 1:10; Heb. 1:10-12; Phil. 3:21; Rev. 21:5) (see: Systematic Theology by Louis Berkhof, p. 94, 95).



The New Testament also affirms the deity of Jesus in calling him Yahweh. Old Testament prophecies concerning Yahweh are quoted in the New Testament as being references to Jesus (compare Mal. 3:1 and Luke 1:76; Joel 2:32 and Rom. 10:13; Isa. 45:23 and Rom. 14:10). (Buswell, p. 104, 105). These examples are adequate to demonstrate that the New Testament contains a myriad of proof for the deity of Jesus Christ.



Van Lees (My Pastor)

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 03:52 PM

:applause:...Ima really liking your Pastor James...and just incase no one told you today...I Love :hearts: You too my Presbyterian brother in Christ...:winksmile:...xo

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Jesus Christ is not God
Posted : 22 Jul, 2011 04:54 PM

Hmmmm.

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